Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour

Uhh, Thanks! :unsure:

I had six hours on those strings, and you are right that it is interesting it will break at the grommet but not at a notch. I had just hit two screaming groundstrokes right before that.

Looking at that first picture I posted, the two strings closer to the middle from the break pulled back, and its interesting to me that even on the fourth cross down, I'm hitting enough balls up that high on the stringbed to cause denting/notching. I know that with this racquet, serving with a higher contact point is beneficial because there's still excellent pop up high and I get the advantage of a bit more RHS further from my hand.

I'm pretty sure your analysis is right - it's just whatever they did to create the crispness and tension maintenance to the string. Like you, I'll also continue to use this string, at least during the winter. I haven't found any other string that gives me the confidence to swing away, the comfort to do when when it's cold, and the long lasting playability.
The way it breaks is identical to how it breaks for me as well.
It also happens after a few hours are already on the string bed.
Quite a few people are saying the 17 gauge feels thinner than other 17 gauges. I did measure with a micrometer and it was 1.25mm. Maybe someone wants to confirm?
I saw on an old review of SPPP mentioned premature breakage as well: "However, it happens to me at least 5 times that there is premature breakage right at the last grommet near throat for open string pattern racquets (such as ProKennex 5G, Dunlop AG100, MG Prestige Pro)"
 

Injured Again

Professional
Quite a few people are saying the 17 gauge feels thinner than other 17 gauges. I did measure with a micrometer and it was 1.25mm. Maybe someone wants to confirm?
When I tested S7T during a Tennis Warehouse playtest, I took a picture of it next to Tour Bite 1.20 (Tour Bite 1.20 is on the left):



Tour Bite doesn't show that it is shaped much in this picture, but it certainly is as thick as S7T from this angle.

FIRETennis said:
I'd be willing to give it a try but I'd like to understand how a different cross would help prevent the main's breaking?
I believe @blai212 is coming at it from the viewpoint that Pro Poly Plasma makes more sense as a cross because it is smooth and so would enhance string movement more than a full bed of S7T.
 
I believe @blai212 is coming at it from the viewpoint that Pro Poly Plasma makes more sense as a cross because it is smooth and so would enhance string movement more than a full bed of S7T.
Oh, I thought it had something to do with the premature breakage.
I certainly don't think S7T needs more spin!
I feel making a hybrid with it would remove some of its great properties such as feel, tension maintenance of the whole string bed and crispness.
Let us know how the hybrid feels and lasts.
 

Sharkall

New User
In my current setup (ASL2) I find S7T 17g at 50/48 comfortable and spinny enough but a bit too powerful for me. The ball does dip in before the baseline but I'm losing too much control (have been playing with 2015 TT95 lately).
Before upping the tension to tame this power, I was thinking of first hybriding it with a less powerful cross, to the same effect.
Would anybody have a decent idea if any of the current strings I have at hand can be less powerful than S7T?
- T1 triumph 1.25
- T1 ghostwire 1.17 and 1.22 (assume 1.22 less powerful)
- AK pro cx 1.24
I don't mind stringing the cross tighter as long as it's more comfortable than S7T at 50 lbs.
I guess using Velocity would suit my needs but I won't be able to get a set in the next several days.
Thanks!
 

djNEiGht

Hall of Fame
Have a couple sets. I usually string with a smooth poly cross and the textured string in the main. Interesting to see how this plays. Reel price point is nice
 

Injured Again

Professional
In my current setup (ASL2) I find S7T 17g at 50/48 comfortable and spinny enough but a bit too powerful for me. The ball does dip in before the baseline but I'm losing too much control (have been playing with 2015 TT95 lately).
Before upping the tension to tame this power, I was thinking of first hybriding it with a less powerful cross, to the same effect.
Would anybody have a decent idea if any of the current strings I have at hand can be less powerful than S7T?
- T1 triumph 1.25
- T1 ghostwire 1.17 and 1.22 (assume 1.22 less powerful)
- AK pro cx 1.24
I don't mind stringing the cross tighter as long as it's more comfortable than S7T at 50 lbs.
I guess using Velocity would suit my needs but I won't be able to get a set in the next several days.
Thanks!
This is my first experience hybriding S7T so I can't offer any advice. I can say that the response of S7T seems to be relatively insensitive to tension changes on the order of plus/minus 5% in terms of spin capability, pocketing feel, and comfort, though tension changes do seem to have a near normal effect on launch angle, and a somewhat lesser effect on ball speed. So if you are experiencing a little too much length and ball speed, you can try to go up a bit in tension.

I have resisted hybriding up until now due mostly to laziness as stringing one piece is easier, but also because, like @FIRETennis I like the feel of a full bed of S7T and don't want to dilute that.

Maybe @blai212 has more input on how hybriding affects S7T. I won't get to play with my bybrid until late tonight.
 

blai212

Semi-Pro
In my current setup (ASL2) I find S7T 17g at 50/48 comfortable and spinny enough but a bit too powerful for me. The ball does dip in before the baseline but I'm losing too much control (have been playing with 2015 TT95 lately).
Before upping the tension to tame this power, I was thinking of first hybriding it with a less powerful cross, to the same effect.
Would anybody have a decent idea if any of the current strings I have at hand can be less powerful than S7T?
- T1 triumph 1.25
- T1 ghostwire 1.17 and 1.22 (assume 1.22 less powerful)
- AK pro cx 1.24
I don't mind stringing the cross tighter as long as it's more comfortable than S7T at 50 lbs.
I guess using Velocity would suit my needs but I won't be able to get a set in the next several days.
Thanks!
definitely use a poly cross if u hybrid...multi/synthetic/natural gut cross will crap out once outer coating wears off within first few hrs and then string bed will lock up. If you want to tame power, go up a few lbs or just adjust your swing style to brush the ball more so the spin brings down the ball more. Hitting flat (slapping) with strings too loose will make the ball sail. Ghostwire 1.18 would be good cross in hybrid but if you truly want a low powered cross, kirschbaum max power, evolution or msv focus are pretty low powered strings that might be what you’re looking for.


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blai212

Semi-Pro
I'd be willing to give it a try but I'd like to understand how a different cross would help prevent the main's breaking?
i have had no experience with premature breakage with s7t for me or the people i string for...SPPP jus provides a feel that i am in love with, use 17L 1.18mm for best spin/playability results


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Injured Again

Professional
Played 90 minutes in a four person round robin with three other 4.5 players, all younger than me. Won 18 games total and lost 8, so not bad. The 17 gauge S7T mains with 1.23 SPPP Pure crosses didn't hold me back.

This hybrid is softer and more comfy, and just a bit more powerful. Spin capability seems slightly reduced from a full bed of S7T but is still very good. What I didn't like is that the crisp, pocketing feel that is so confidence inspiring with a full bed of S7T, is diminished. It's a springier feel, a feel of a bit less dwell time as the stringbed seems to fling the ball and not compress it as much. Launch angle seems a little bit lower than a full bed of S7T. Reminiscent of how a thinner gauge of Cyclone feels. It just doesn't firm up as much when swinging hard.

This hybrid would be good for someone who likes very good spin capability, high power levels for a poly, and needs comfort. Probably more suited for someone who doesn't hit flatter when swinging super hard or likes to play with more spin and wants more depth overall. Still, for these things which I think it provides a less confident feel, it still lets me hit the ball where I'm aiming. It's just not the feedback I prefer..

Seems to have lost a bit of tension. Will play with it again in the morning.
 

Sharkall

New User
This is my first experience hybriding S7T so I can't offer any advice. I can say that the response of S7T seems to be relatively insensitive to tension changes on the order of plus/minus 5% in terms of spin capability, pocketing feel, and comfort, though tension changes do seem to have a near normal effect on launch angle, and a somewhat lesser effect on ball speed. So if you are experiencing a little too much length and ball speed, you can try to go up a bit in tension.

I have resisted hybriding up until now due mostly to laziness as stringing one piece is easier, but also because, like @FIRETennis I like the feel of a full bed of S7T and don't want to dilute that.

Maybe @blai212 has more input on how hybriding affects S7T. I won't get to play with my bybrid until late tonight.
definitely use a poly cross if u hybrid...multi/synthetic/natural gut cross will crap out once outer coating wears off within first few hrs and then string bed will lock up. If you want to tame power, go up a few lbs or just adjust your swing style to brush the ball more so the spin brings down the ball more. Hitting flat (slapping) with strings too loose will make the ball sail. Ghostwire 1.18 would be good cross in hybrid but if you truly want a low powered cross, kirschbaum max power, evolution or msv focus are pretty low powered strings that might be what you’re looking for.
Thanks for the suggestions!
I will try the T1.ghostwire in crosses first then, and continue depending on the results. I also upped the tension a little bit, 52/52 from 50/48 to see if I get a little bit more consistency. The net clearance was really high compared to what I'm used. To be fair I'm not sure if it was the launch angle or it's just because the ball has more speed so it travels more before it starts dipping.
I added the K.max.power on the list, I've never tried that one before and heard good things about it, thanks.
I am more of a flat hitter indeed, so worst case I will be treating this as an opportunity to work on my topspin game :) Will update with results once I get my racket back, hopefully can hit with it before Xmas.
 

Injured Again

Professional
About to head off to tennis, but my arm is feeling less tired and stiff than normal, and especially my shoulder as I did a lot of hard serving yesterday. I had said elsewhere that I was considering the use of S7T during the winter and something like Hyper-G during the summer, so I could have more comfort when it is cold and less power when it is warm. But now I'm thinking maybe this S7T/SPPP hybrid would be a good choice during our coldest few months.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
About to head off to tennis, but my arm is feeling less tired and stiff than normal, and especially my shoulder as I did a lot of hard serving yesterday. I had said elsewhere that I was considering the use of S7T during the winter and something like Hyper-G during the summer, so I could have more comfort when it is cold and less power when it is warm. But now I'm thinking maybe this S7T/SPPP hybrid would be a good choice during our coldest few months.
I think S7T, and any full bed of poly, is to stiff for me in the cold. I'm talking 30-50 degrees lower than when I hit in the summer. Going with gut and ALU Power Rough for now.

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blai212

Semi-Pro
About to head off to tennis, but my arm is feeling less tired and stiff than normal, and especially my shoulder as I did a lot of hard serving yesterday. I had said elsewhere that I was considering the use of S7T during the winter and something like Hyper-G during the summer, so I could have more comfort when it is cold and less power when it is warm. But now I'm thinking maybe this S7T/SPPP hybrid would be a good choice during our coldest few months.
you could jus string higher tension during warmer weather to tame the power...
my arm cant handle hyperG at all in my control oriented VCP 100 frame cuz neither offers much power so I have trouble getting the ball to bounce past the service line when im rallying from baseline and I simply destroy my arm swinging for the fences in an attempt to get good depth on my shots


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Injured Again

Professional
you could jus string higher tension during warmer weather to tame the power...
my arm cant handle hyperG at all in my control oriented VCP 100 frame cuz neither offers much power so I have trouble getting the ball to bounce past the service line when im rallying from baseline and I simply destroy my arm swinging for the fences in an attempt to get good depth on my shots
Had a hitting session with a very high level player, and the hybrid is just too powerful and with too low of a launch angle for me, even though it is very arm-friendly. I would guess that if I went higher tension to tame some of the power, the launch angle would decrease further which is not what I want. It was a good test and I'm glad I did it because now I know what to expect. I'm going back to a full bed of S7T.
 

ludde

Rookie
Today I had a very good indoor session on clay with S7T/Lyon in a Head Extreme 360. Good comfort for this crisp feeling string in a very cold indoor hall. @52/49 seems perfect for me to tame the power of the racquet. Nice blend of power and control.
 

cameron9713

New User
I continue to be amazed at how this string performs at lower tensions. I strung a PS97 with a full bed of S7T (17g) at 42lbs for my doubles partner. He is typically not a fan of polys but he was impressed with the feel and spin he received with this setup. I encourage anyone trying this to string it 10lbs less than you normally do.
 

Injured Again

Professional
I continue to be amazed at how this string performs at lower tensions. I strung a PS97 with a full bed of S7T (17g) at 42lbs for my doubles partner. He is typically not a fan of polys but he was impressed with the feel and spin he received with this setup. I encourage anyone trying this to string it 10lbs less than you normally do.
The excellent tension maintenance of even the 17 gauge S7T means that you can string it low and it won't drop to the point of becoming unplayable. It is really a great string.

Tourna should take this string formulation and extrude it into other shapes, like a square or a gear shape. They could really take a big chunk of the market by doing that.
 

Injured Again

Professional
I strung up S7T for a 27 year old 4.5 level player whom I coached in junior USTA league ten years ago. He had recently gotten back into tennis in a more serious way and had tried Cyclone, Element (what his dad uses), and at least one other Luxilon string. I strung up his Pure Storm at 49 pounds with S7T and he **loves** it. I watched him hit tonight for several minutes and he has beautiful shape to his shots, and can flatten it out with full confidence. He was expecting Luxilon prices but I said for every reel of Tourna he buys in place of a Luxilon reel, he can buy a brand new racquet. Smiles all around.
 
How low in tension have you guys strung in a 16x19 open pattern?

My usual 55lbs/25kg string job settles around 50-51lbs (22.5kg) after a couple hours of hitting and it stays there until it breaks. Amazing.
I'm thinking to try the 17 gauge at 50lbs/22.5kg, down -10% from my usual ~55Lbs/25kg.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
How low in tension have you guys strung in a 16x19 open pattern?

My usual 55lbs/25kg string job settles around 50-51lbs (22.5kg) after a couple hours of hitting and it stays there until it breaks. Amazing.
I'm thinking to try the 17 gauge at 50lbs/22.5kg, down -10% from my usual ~55Lbs/25kg.
With my TC100 I started at 45/42, then bumped it up to 47/44 and that's perfect for me.

In my Prince TT95 I tried it at 45/42 and it was great.

I've always strung in the 40s tho

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Injured Again

Professional
How low in tension have you guys strung in a 16x19 open pattern?

My usual 55lbs/25kg string job settles around 50-51lbs (22.5kg) after a couple hours of hitting and it stays there until it breaks. Amazing.
I'm thinking to try the 17 gauge at 50lbs/22.5kg, down -10% from my usual ~55Lbs/25kg.
I've used 46 pounds in the v7 Blade 98 16X19, 44 pounds in the v7 Blade 98 16X20, and 45 pounds in the v3 Pure Strike 16X19, all with the 17 gauge. They all feel firm enough at those tensions to not become imprecise with the shots where I swing at my maximum capability. I actually feel like I could probably go another 5% lower and still have full control.
 

Lefty5

Hall of Fame
The excellent tension maintenance of even the 17 gauge S7T means that you can string it low and it won't drop to the point of becoming unplayable. It is really a great string.

Tourna should take this string formulation and extrude it into other shapes, like a square or a gear shape. They could really take a big chunk of the market by doing that.
I would think a square or gear would change it too much no? Launch angles, spin potential, all that stuff changes with the shape...
 

Injured Again

Professional
I would think a square or gear would change it too much no? Launch angles, spin potential, all that stuff changes with the shape...
Yes, changing the shape that much would affect launch angle and spin production, as well as how sensitive the string is to incoming spin. But there is a big market for those more highly shaped strings that Tourna could compete strongly in with the characteristics of the material used in S7T.

The three advantages to the material used in S7T over other strings are tension maintenance, elasticity/power while retaining crispness, and wear resistance. I've tested a string like V-Square, which was relatively comfy and powerful, but notched through in four hours. A square S7T string could be a more comfortable and crisp Hyper-G or a more powerful Tour Bite, or a longer lasting V-Square.

The only real downside seems to be that S7T may be a bit brittle and to have a tendency to shear break on a mis-hit (bad) or when being strung (really bad).

It just seems like a very simple and inexpensive change for Tourna, to get a different shape die to extrude the string, could potentially open up more of the market for them.
 
Has anyone tested it on TT310 ?
Usually I play with tour bite 1.20, but sometimes I feel pain in my forearm. Is a BHS7T a little softer compared to TB ? Or mybe I should try a tour bite soft?

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nwatts

New User
Has anyone tested it on TT310 ?
Usually I play with tour bite 1.20, but sometimes I feel pain in my forearm. Is a BHS7T a little softer compared to TB ? Or mybe I should try a tour bite soft?

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BHS7T is definitely softer than tourbite. I like tourbite, but my arm cannot handle it even when strung in low 40's. For me, BHS7T is easily the best poly I've used without bothering my arm too much. I strung my 18×20 racquet with it at 43 pounds. I haven't tried tourbite soft.
 

blai212

Semi-Pro
Yes, changing the shape that much would affect launch angle and spin production, as well as how sensitive the string is to incoming spin. But there is a big market for those more highly shaped strings that Tourna could compete strongly in with the characteristics of the material used in S7T.

The three advantages to the material used in S7T over other strings are tension maintenance, elasticity/power while retaining crispness, and wear resistance. I've tested a string like V-Square, which was relatively comfy and powerful, but notched through in four hours. A square S7T string could be a more comfortable and crisp Hyper-G or a more powerful Tour Bite, or a longer lasting V-Square.

The only real downside seems to be that S7T may be a bit brittle and to have a tendency to shear break on a mis-hit (bad) or when being strung (really bad).

It just seems like a very simple and inexpensive change for Tourna, to get a different shape die to extrude the string, could potentially open up more of the market for them.
I gave up on S7T because of arm pain on mishits. I’m not sure if it was my racquet (VCP100) or the string or combination of both but I do know that the VCP100 can be a bit harsh sometimes on my sensitive arm/wrist. I was stringing at 42-44 lbs by the way. I now use VCT 1.30mm 16g mains with SPPP 17L hybrid @42-44 lbs and absolutely love it. The heavier weight of the VCT string as well as the softness and pocketing feels amazing. The spin is not as great as a sharp shaped poly but it is good enough and well worth the tradeoff for increased power/comfort/ball pocketing. I would recommend VCT mains with thin/slick poly cross for anyone. VCT feels like leaded up gut. My setup actually feels better than gut/poly in my other racquets strung at 50/46 that I don’t even use those anymore...they just sit in my bag.


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Happi

New User
I really like the BHS7T at lower tension in full bed setup, so far my favorite poly both soft and crisp. However I have some minor wrist problems, so I could consider a softer setup with BHS7T.

So far I tried T1 Ghost Wire as a cross, but prefer FB of BHS7T.

Any suggestion for a partner string to the Silver 7 Tour, could be poly cross or multi / sync gut cross.

Have anyone tried Gut / BHS7T ?

Thanks, H
 

Allcourtguy

Semi-Pro
I gave up on S7T because of arm pain on mishits. I’m not sure if it was my racquet (VCP100) or the string or combination of both but I do know that the VCP100 can be a bit harsh sometimes on my sensitive arm/wrist. I was stringing at 42-44 lbs by the way. I now use VCT 1.30mm 16g mains with SPPP 17L hybrid @42-44 lbs and absolutely love it. The heavier weight of the VCT string as well as the softness and pocketing feels amazing. The spin is not as great as a sharp shaped poly but it is good enough and well worth the tradeoff for increased power/comfort/ball pocketing. I would recommend VCT mains with thin/slick poly cross for anyone. VCT feels like leaded up gut. My setup actually feels better than gut/poly in my other racquets strung at 50/46 that I don’t even use those anymore...they just sit in my bag.


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@blai212,
Is SPPP Signum Pro Poly Plasma, or Poly Plasma Pure?
 

blai212

Semi-Pro
@blai212,
Is SPPP Signum Pro Poly Plasma, or Poly Plasma Pure?
SPPPP would be pure...i personally use orange because pure is few bucks more per reel from where i buy and i dont see the point. I have read that pure feels softer with more power from other people but ever so slight


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Tmano

Professional
Based on TW reviews SPPP 1.25 has scored 33 and BH7T scored 45.
Based on this number and the reviews I read I would think that BH7T is more powerful than SPPP, but here I'm reading almost otherwise.
I know it's all subjective of who is using the string and the set up but it's really confusing.
So could someone state which one has more power?
Thanks
 

Injured Again

Professional
Based on TW reviews SPPP 1.25 has scored 33 and BH7T scored 45.
Based on this number and the reviews I read I would think that BH7T is more powerful than SPPP, but here I'm reading almost otherwise.
I know it's all subjective of who is using the string and the set up but it's really confusing.
So could someone state which one has more power?
Thanks
The TW test string was the 16 gauge, which tested at a stiffness level that seems significantly higher than the 17 gauge, which most here are using and is what was distributed as part of the TW playtest. The 17 gauge has an initial bit of elasticity that gives it a comfortable response, yet firms up as you swing harder for control.

I haven't played with a full bed of Pro Poly Plasma of any type for nearly ten years, and only once tried it as a hybrid in the crosses which wasn't to my preference. From the feel of it, I'd say that Pro Poly Plasma is softer and more comfortable overall, but that S7T seems to have more ball speed off the stringbed, along with my greater spin capability.
 

Tmano

Professional
The TW test string was the 16 gauge, which tested at a stiffness level that seems significantly higher than the 17 gauge, which most here are using and is what was distributed as part of the TW playtest. The 17 gauge has an initial bit of elasticity that gives it a comfortable response, yet firms up as you swing harder for control.

I haven't played with a full bed of Pro Poly Plasma of any type for nearly ten years, and only once tried it as a hybrid in the crosses which wasn't to my preference. From the feel of it, I'd say that Pro Poly Plasma is softer and more comfortable overall, but that S7T seems to have more ball speed off the stringbed, along with my greater spin capability.
Yes Injured Again, you are correct it's based on the 16g but I assumed it would be very lose to the 17g since there is not a TW review. Thanks for your feedback!!! :)
I also prefer the 17 g over the 16 anytime. Having used a long time ago the SPPP which back then I thought on the lower maybe medium power spectrum, I was surprised to read that for some is was almost more powerful than BHS7T.
 

chsu74

New User
A few minutes after stringing I noticed that my string had broken. This has never happened to me. Really weird.




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String breaking at the grommet is a bad string job. Not a strings problem. String could have twisted weird, got cut during a tension pull, with a clamp or pliers..
 

hotasice

Semi-Pro
I tried this string (17g) at 50 lb in my blade 18x20; initially it felt stiff and slightly uncomfortable for the first 2 hours but once it settled in, it played really nice; comfortable with some ball pocketing and nice spin.

I usually cut poly out after 5-7 hours; after 8 hours of hitting, the string is quite notched but still feels great and I'm still getting great spin and control.
 

Injured Again

Professional
A few minutes after stringing I noticed that my string had broken. This has never happened to me. Really weird.




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Along the lines of what @chsu74 says, I think that Silver 7 Tour is especially vulnerable to twisting when going around grommets. I've only had one shear break and it was also right at a grommet. I took some string from that same reel and pulled a ton of tension, like 75 pounds, and the string didn't break. So my best guess is that the string just doesn't like to be twisted.

I'm on about 20-25 stringjobs with 17 gauge S7T and only had that one shear break, and I'm much more careful now to make sure the string is as straight as possible around the frame.
 
After the broken string, I made the racket again and it was no problem. It was probably my overlook. I tried the strings in Gravity pro today. Really great feeling in the racket. Much more comfortable than the 1.20mm tour bite. The amount of spin is similar to TB, but kick serve seems much better with S7T. The control is top notch. The string seems thinner than the diameter suggests, I'd say the thickness is the same as the TB 1.20mm. I have yet to try those strings in a Pure Aero racket. The price is really great for a 220m roll

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Injured Again

Professional
After the broken string, I made the racket again and it was no problem. It was probably my overlook. I tried the strings in Gravity pro today. Really great feeling in the racket. Much more comfortable than the 1.20mm tour bite. The amount of spin is similar to TB, but kick serve seems much better with S7T. The control is top notch. The string seems thinner than the diameter suggests, I'd say the thickness is the same as the TB 1.20mm. I have yet to try those strings in a Pure Aero racket. The price is really great for a 220m roll

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Yes, I have found the exact same things with S7T. I also found power levels to be noticeably higher than Tour Bite - did you feel the same?
 
Yes, I have found the exact same things with S7T. I also found power levels to be noticeably higher than Tour Bite - did you feel the same?
The power of the string is above average for poly. I tried S7T in my Pure Aero today, the wire is much more comfortable than the TB I played with. The amount of spin is large on PA. What surprised me was that today I played with PA much more aggressively than usual, with each ball falling half a meter ahead of the baseline with a large amount of spin. Slices and drop shots with these strings are perfection, every shot went literally just above the net and the ball dug into the clay. I wonder how long it will take with the same performance :)







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The power of the string is above average for poly. I tried S7T in my Pure Aero today, the wire is much more comfortable than the TB I played with. The amount of spin is large on PA. What surprised me was that today I played with PA much more aggressively than usual, with each ball falling half a meter ahead of the baseline with a large amount of spin. Slices and drop shots with these strings are perfection, every shot went literally just above the net and the ball dug into the clay. I wonder how long it will take with the same performance :)
Are you using the 17 gauge S7T?
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
Yes, 17g but the string is much thinner than other strings in the same dimension. I just measured it with digital calliper and it shows 1.20-1.22mm.

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Yes. These strings look thin compared to other 17g strings. They are also lighter. I have found they play better for me at lower tensions, around 44-42 lbs on a 18x20 V7 Blade 98. When the weather warms up (it is in the 50's during the day) I might test out higher tension.

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Injured Again

Professional
Yes, 17g but the string is much thinner than other strings in the same dimension. I just measured it with digital calliper and it shows 1.20-1.22mm.

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See my picture in post #303 with Tour Bite 1.20 next to 17 gauge S7T:


It is more notch resistant and retains playability way longer than the 1.20 Tour Bite, in my experience.
 
See my picture in post #303 with Tour Bite 1.20 next to 17 gauge S7T:


It is more notch resistant and retains playability way longer than the 1.20 Tour Bite, in my experience.
Nice to hear. TB in that picture looks like rounded poly string. If it meets the expectations regarding durability, then I will use it in that diameter in all rackets, as the control and spin are excellent. I used Grapplesnake Alpha for a while and it was my best string after a long time. After 4-5 hours of playing, the wires were no longer back to their original position. I literally had to adjust them with my hands after each point played. Hope it won't be the case with S7T

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