Tourna Black Zone

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  1. Lefty5

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    Doesn't look like BZ but maybe contact Tourna and ask them to replace. They have the best customer service.
     
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  2. SteveI

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    Not BZ.. for sure. I am guessing BHB 7. Must be a miss-packaging. BZ is round!
     
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  3. SteveI

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    You are correct...
     
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  4. Muppet

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    BHB7/BZ might make a nice hybrid. If Tourna lets you keep the extra pack of string, maybe you'll want to try it out.
     
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  5. FFo

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    Problem (almost) solved, I contacted TWE and they confirmed it was the wrong string. Unfortunately all the strings in stock were also wrong so I can't get a new set anytime soon. Was really looking forward to test this string.
     
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  6. Gemini

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    Sounds like the problem isn't isolated to just you unfortunately. If there entire stock was wrong, who knows how many sets they've sold of the wrong string. Not to mention that Unique Tourna has a QC problem if they haven't already rectified it.
     
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  7. topspn

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    Oh great, I just ordered 2 packs that are on their way. So they won’t be BZ either
     
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  8. FFo

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    This was TW Europe, but still better check those string carefully.
     
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  9. topspn

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    Oh, I shot out an email to TW :D Now they’re gonna think I’ve been drinking
     
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  10. Gemini

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    No harm in giving them a heads up. TWE and TW-USA could be receiving stock from the same location.
     
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  11. topspn

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    I’ve been told no packaging problem here in US
     
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  12. Classic-TXP-IG MID

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    BZ played very well in my Yonex Vcore 95D in FB. Had awesome power when I would flatten my FH but could hit predictable loopy shots with great depth when trying to hit a rally ball. My serve placement was quite accurate and the serves had good pace. Very happy with the string. Will also use it as a cross in a hybrid setup, as the string is very smooth and would allow the main to move and then snap back into place.
     
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  13. AgressivelyFrames

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    After trying Tourna Black zone with the hyper g in the mains its a pretty nice setup in terms of feel and durability.

    Feels a bit softer than normal hyper g and the crosses (being slicker and round) help the mains last a bit longer than normal. I only tried the 1.2 mm Black Zone so maybe the 1.25 is better but its a nice way to reduce the harshness of certain polys and increase the durability for string breakers.

    If you aren't one, then there isn't that much of a benefit over a full bed of the poly going in the mains. It might actually be a detriment because once the poly dies you are stuck with dead poly that won't break for a long time.
     
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  14. Don't Let It Bounce

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    I tried this several years ago and have been meaning to start a thread on hybrid poly experiences and post about it. I'll probably never get around to it, and since you brought it up.... It was memorable. This was in a Fischer MPro One 105. Also, it was low tension — 38 lb constant pull, I think — as it always is for me with polys.

    For a few hours that first afternoon, I had crazy spin that I've never experienced before or since, as measured by how far up the fence topspin serves hit. (Measuring that way eliminates some variables: position, mid-point fatigue, the other player's ball, etc.) It was hard to believe. The feel of the combination was not remarkable — about average for a poly bed, and noticeably less pleasant than strings like BH Blue Rough, Cyclone Tour, and Hyper-G. More importantly, after that first afternoon, presumably once the coating on the BZ had worn off, the spin was no better or worse than any other shaped poly.

    If I were to start back playing tournaments, were willing to restring often, or cared less than I do about how the string bed feels once the performance has become average on the second day, I'd stay with BHB7/BZ. (And writing this has just about convinced me to get some more, and see if I like the feel any better a few years later...)
     
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  15. snahzje

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    Had not heard of this string before checking out this thread. Seeing that it’s softer with good tension maintenance and at $80 a reel has made me order a few sets. I love Hyper G in my Pure Aeros but I only get about 2 weeks (3 days/week hitting) before the tension drops off a cliff and I need to restring. Hoping even though this is a smooth poly that I can get at least 3 weeks out of each string job.

    The sets arrive tomorrow and can’t wait to give it a whirl at 52 lbs.
     
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  16. snahzje

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    Hit with the BHBZ 17 yesterday in my Pure Aero. Have been looking for an alternative to Hyper G 18 lately as I've been chewing through those strings in the open pattern and needed to restring every ~1.5 weeks. Was looking at strings with good tension maintenance (testing Kirschbaum Pro Line II 17 in the Pure Aero next).

    I strung it up at 52 lbs on my Klippermate DW stringer and took a reading on RacquetTune which showed that the tension dropped to 44.8lb out of the stringer. I need to do some research on a better way to string as this was a huge drop off (perhaps I'm giving too much slack on my mains in the center while stringing with a starting pin).

    After 1 set I took another measurement (albeit it was a bit loud out on the courts). 41.8lb. My HyperG may have been dropping tension like this as well, so again it may be a problem with my stringing technique.

    After another 2 sets, I took another measurement in the parking lot and it read 41.0lb. So perhaps this string takes a bit to settle down and maintain its tension from then on. I may need to string this a bit tighter so when it does settle down it's a bit more in the high 40's range.

    I'll be hitting again tomorrow and will take another reading at the end of the night.

    I did notice a fair bit of notching after 1 hour of hitting, but pulling the string to the side with my fingers and snapping it back had it fall back to its original position so it may not affect spin production (didn't feel that different in the spin department after 3 sets).

    Overall, staying optimistic on this string as a reel of HyperG will set me back $170 but this is only $80 in a reel.
     
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  17. jayserinos99

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    Fellow Sunnyvale resident here. Typically use a modified APD13 with Tour Bite 1.25 at 58 lb. Used BZ 1.25 in same tension (also 60 lb). Felt like I got more spin with TB than BZ as more shots dropped in with TB. BZ is definitely softer, but my personal preference is for a slightly stiffer string bed. Tension maintenance felt even for me if I left the strings in the frame. Notching was normal and launch angle seemed about the same in both strings. A while back, also compared HG to TB (same gauge and tension for both strings, but in a APD+13) and HG felt softer, ball flew out a bit more than TB due to launch angle (higher than TB for me). In hindsight, if I had to choose b/w BZ and HG, I'd go with BZ because it's slightly closer to what I'm used to (TB).
     
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  18. snahzje

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    Nice! Maybe I'll see you around the local courts or at the upcoming Mountain View NTRP tournament :)

    I've tried TB in 18g and 17g and preferred HyperG just because it's softer and a bit more muted. In the end I can deal with a drop off in spin if I can gain an edge in tension maintenance (hence the shift to slick poly versus shaped poly). I even went so far as to try an Ashaway Monogut ZX/Revolve hybrid but the mains locked into the crosses so much that the balls started launching. Soft setup though.
     
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