Tretorn Micro X Tennis Balls

Tchocky

Hall of Fame
Are these truly the longest lasting tennis balls out there on the market? I'm going to purchase a ball machine very shortly and do not want to spend a small fortune continually buying new balls. I've heard some reports that the Tretorn balls last years. That sounds crazy to me. P.S. Is this the same company that makes Tretorn shoes?
 

Mike Cottrill

Hall of Fame
Tchocky said:
Are these truly the longest lasting tennis balls out there on the market? I'm going to purchase a ball machine very shortly and do not want to spend a small fortune continually buying new balls. I've heard some reports that the Tretorn balls last years. That sounds crazy to me. P.S. Is this the same company that makes Tretorn shoes?

I use Tretorn Lite balls and they last until the cover is gone. They will bounce for years. Great for ball machines. The micro x balls will last too.
Mike
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
Yes they last for years. Purchased 90 balls 3 yrs ago and still use those same balls with a ball machine. Not as hard as traditional pressureless balls and bounce as good as new.
 

Virgilio

Semi-Pro
I dunno about the shoes, but also here in Italy Tretorn was famous for balls that bounce well for very long. I personally find the Tretorn balls a little too hard, so it may depend on the surface you want to play at.
 

Kevo

Legend
The Tretorn Micro X are very good. I got a bucket of 60 for Christmas last year, and have hit with them quite often over the past year. I have busted several of them, and two were flat when out of the bucket new. I think I still have about 50 of them left, and they still bounce very well, but the felt is pretty much gone. For ball machine use they would be great. I use them for serve practice a lot, and they have seen a lot of abuse, but are still usable.

The Wilson Ti tennis balls we get for our USTA Team only last about 2 or 3 sets before they start going dead, and the felt covers start to peel off after about 8 sets. So the Tretorns are probably a good deal.
 

p3k

Semi-Pro
they are by far the best pressureless balls on the market, the felt durabilty is about 7/10, they are on the lighter side, and they bounce forever. i still have a bucket purchased in 2001, they have no felt and they still bounce like crazy. when the kids that i teach tried them they started to call them fireballs because they are able 'to serve with them like roddick'. one negative - a really hard shot can tear the ball and you're covered in a white cloud of that microstuff.
 

!Tym

Hall of Fame
They're rock hard and very hard on the elbow and a little oversized a la the Dunlop Grand Prix balls when you first get them, they bounce like super balls at first, ridiculously high, almost over the fence high. I played with several open and all state players years ago using these and they were disgusted with them. They refused to play with them in fact.

However, once they got broke in a little after about two weeks of play, they're bounce subdued just enough to more like a regular ball (i.e. without the fear of the balls bouncing over the fence on heavy topspin shots...VERY annoying).

Also, after the initial break in period, they stopped feeling quite as hard and jarring on the elbow...which was IMMEDIATELY noticeable by the several players including myself who tried them out initially.

I think once you break them in, they're a great ball machine ball or hopper ball, but because they're really expensive when you lose them or a side court swipes them...it hurts just a little inside, feels like one more kitten in this world has been needlessly lost to neglect, so sad.

One thing to note, is that I've read that those who buy by the bucket will get balls that are less bouncy and lively than the ones who by the individually boxed 4 ball set as they are taken out at different times of the curing process or something was the explanation, i.e. the bucket balls are the left overs or something and thus aren't as lively...which I actually think is a GOOD thing.

I bought the 4 ball sets, so this may explain why they were unnaturally lively and hard. I remember one teaching pro on these boards called them rock hard, 'super balls' describing the way the old Tretorns he used bounced and played.

With that said, there IS in my opinion a better and MUCH cheaper alternative to the Tretorn ball out on the market now. Unique Sports sells them. These pressureless balls feel just like normal Penn Championship balls, are not slightly oversized like the Micro X or Dunlop Grand Prix balls, their felt life is adequate, and most importantly they do NOT feel rock hard and are not hard on the elbow and they DO bounce just like normal pressurized balls. I've tested them side by side with fresh Dunlop Grand Prix balls and they bounce almost exactly the same. I used to use them regularly when hitting with a former pro and a pair of 5.5 players. Had I not told them they were pressurized balls they would NOT have known and did not suspect anything. When they found out they were pressureless and so cheap, their only response was where do I get them?

These ARE the balls to get for practice use and ball hopper and ball machine use without a doubt. Maybe the Tretorns last a little longer, but then again Tretorns are harder on the arm and are priced at a premium. The Unique pressureless balls cost about the same as any ordinary grade championship pressurized ball, and thus losing a few to a neiborhing court of bandannaed pirates and thieves does not make you feel like going on bambi road rage if you know what I mean.
 

Kevo

Legend
!Tym, are you sure you're talking about the Micro X balls? These are the ones that are pressurized with air filled micro beads. They are not pressureless. They are not hard. They feel like a regular ball right out of the bucket. They are made to regulation spec and tournament certified as well.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
!Tym, added old Dunlop Grand Prix balls to the ball machine at times and felt really familiar. Grand Prix balls even sound like pressureless balls. Guys on the next court asked us to keep the noise down as we were hitting too loudly.
 

datsveryinterestin

Professional
I used to use Micro X balls, but most players (especially 4.0+) can instantly tell the difference and usually refuse to use them for serious play.
most say they are too heavy...
but they are still excellent for ball machines, serve practice, etc.....
 

p3k

Semi-Pro
microX are not heavy at all. yes they are hard. and i don't think there is a break-in period. i'm a very good player myself and i am aware that they have a slightly different playing characteristics than balls for high level players like wilson us open or dunlop fort. of course you will recognize that they are pressureless balls but they are the closest to standard. and there are 2 kinds microX ( the one that atp event in kitzbuhel was played with a couple of years ago ) and microX trainer in a bucket for practice and machines.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
I'm using the microX 90 ball bucket.

They're fine for ball hoppers and practising serves.

I do agree they're hard on the arm compared to normal balls.

And they tend to "fly" at first couple of uses.

Can't use them in comp.
 

Tchocky

Hall of Fame
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I bought a 90 ball bucket a couple of weeks ago. I've just been using them to hit serves. I finally got my ball machine yesterday. I didn't have time to fully charge it so I didn't get to hit for more than an hour. Balls seemed okay. One of the balls exploded after I smacked a backhand. There was white powder all over the place. When I went to look for the exploded ball....I could not find it. I don't know if the ball disintegrated or not. Very freaky. I really can't imagine these balls lasting over a year let alone 3 years. Anyway...I'm thinking about getting another bucket. I think I'm going to try the two-tone (white/yellow) so I can see the spin off the ball. Where's the cheapest place to get Tretorn balls. I paid just under $148 at Garrison Sports Group.
 

Kevo

Legend
I did have about 3 or 4 in my bucket of 60 that busted. Those white micro beads go flying everywhere. However, compared to a Penn, Wilson, or Dunlop, the Micro X last a lot longer. They are still usable for practice at almost a year. I think they were in pretty good shape for about 3 months. The typical tennis ball from Penn or Wilson only lasts 6 to 8 hours before the ball is dead or the felt is peeling off.
 

Tchocky

Hall of Fame
Thanks, Kevo! Some guy said you should let your balls breathe for about a week for them to get adjusted to your altitude. Any truth to that? What I'm saying is should I just leave the balls in the bucket with the lid off for a week until first hitting them?
 

jon-z

New User
USTA approved....

Why do you say you can't use them for competition - the container says USTA approved, ITF approved. I really like the idea of playing matches with new ones and then adding them to the ball machine bucket....

equinox said:
I'm using the microX 90 ball bucket.

They're fine for ball hoppers and practising serves.

I do agree they're hard on the arm compared to normal balls.

And they tend to "fly" at first couple of uses.

Can't use them in comp.
 

jon-z

New User
Ever hear of google?

Not that hard to search on tretorn micro x.

I just bought from garrison sports - 90 ball bucket for about 145 including ups ground shipping


bsandy said:
Where online can you get Tretorn Micro X balls ?
 

DSL

New User
Pressureless balls

I've played some tournaments in Mexico and they use presureless balls. However I tried bringing some of the same balls to play in the U.S. and the altitude makes a big difference as these balls had no bounce and just died. I've never tried the Tretorn balls, but I wonder how well they actually bounce.
 

jon-z

New User
tretorne bounce,...

feels perfect to me. The only problem is that they do feel heavy. When you switch from drilling to match play with new conventional balls your shots tend to fly long. When the felt wears down they lose the heaviness, but become more lively than new conventional balls. I've had a tennis tutor ball machine for 16 years and have had the best luck with the tretorn micro-x's


DSL said:
I've played some tournaments in Mexico and they use presureless balls. However I tried bringing some of the same balls to play in the U.S. and the altitude makes a big difference as these balls had no bounce and just died. I've never tried the Tretorn balls, but I wonder how well they actually bounce.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
jon-z said:
Why do you say you can't use them for competition - the container says USTA approved, ITF approved. I really like the idea of playing matches with new ones and then adding them to the ball machine bucket....
Sorry i should have been more specific. You can't use them in Tennis Australia Approved competition.

The regular Tretorn balls i believe are ITF approved and even used on the WTA tour.

Are you sure you're no confusing the regular tretorn z-tour? balls with micro-X?
 

jon-z

New User
thanks for the clarificaion...

but no, I'm looking at the micro-x 4-pack black case and that's where it shows the two certifications. Again, websearch (google) is your friend, just search on tretorn micro x usta and you'll see several sites that show they are certified for tournament play.


equinox said:
Sorry i should have been more specific. You can't use them in Tennis Australia Approved competition.

The regular Tretorn balls i believe are ITF approved and even used on the WTA tour.

Are you sure you're no confusing the regular tretorn z-tour? balls with micro-X?
 

uremate

New User
Got bought a tube of these balls for christmas, hadnt heard of Tretorn before so was really interested to see how good they would be. Played with them and thought they were great, however the most amazing thing was that they were still great several weeks later...brilliant ball, kind of expensive though.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
open your eyes and read what i've said.

Jon,

I don't need to google, i've read the itf certified ball list.

I am not saying you can't use them in usta comp, just that they're not approved for my comp in australia.

I dare you to test oppositions reaction to microX in comp.
I guarantee you can sprout as much usta certification bs as you want to convince them to play with these balls.

But after the warm up, most will refuse to play with them and proceed to break open a fresh can of another name brand ball.

You'll be technically right but still look silly.
 

jon-z

New User
Don't want to start an argument.

But here is what you said:

"Are you sure you're no confusing the regular tretorn z-tour? balls with micro-X?"

I took that statement to mean that you thought I was confusing the micro-x with the z-tour.

I only mentioned google so that if you really questioned my ability to read a label, you could get the information another way.

I am a club player that participates in a local tennis ladder. The rules say the challenger provides the balls. I've provided tretorns once, the player did mention that they felt heavier than typical, but there was never any question about replacing them with another set. I plan to continue to use them this season when I'm the challenger.

equinox said:
Jon,

I don't need to google, i've read the itf certified ball list.

I am not saying you can't use them in usta comp, just that they're not approved for my comp in australia.

I dare you to test oppositions reaction to microX in comp.
I guarantee you can sprout as much usta certification bs as you want to convince them to play with these balls.

But after the warm up, most will refuse to play with them and proceed to break open a fresh can of another name brand ball.

You'll be technically right but still look silly.
 

equinox

Hall of Fame
I suppose it wouldn't matter much what the average 3.0 club player uses playing in there local bush league.

Since at this level they would struggle to feel the differences between brands.

If the tretorn balls gives an advantage over the opposition..i say keep using them! :mrgreen:
 

arnz

Professional
I haven't tried the tretorn yet, sounds good. For hitting against the wall, I've tried 2 pressureless balls, Unique and Gamma. I don't know if its a bad batch that I got, but the Unique balls were just dead, the bounce was horrible on all 3 of them. I've had better luck with the Gamma.
 

jon-z

New User
tried them as well...

I've tried Unique and Gamma as well. I agree, Unique felt horrible. Gamma felt better but heavier and harder on the arm than Tretorn micro-x. In addition, the Gamma's would split on me, whereas the Tretorns last until the felt and rubber wear out. Eventually the Tretorn micro-x's wear to the point that the white air pockets escape through holes in the rubber, (it's quite a sight) but that's way after the felt is gone.
The big downside to the micro-x's is the price, but I've given up on trying the cheaper alternatives.

arnz said:
I haven't tried the tretorn yet, sounds good. For hitting against the wall, I've tried 2 pressureless balls, Unique and Gamma. I don't know if its a bad batch that I got, but the Unique balls were just dead, the bounce was horrible on all 3 of them. I've had better luck with the Gamma.
 

arnz

Professional
The gamma splits on me after about 2-3 weeks of 3x a week playing. The fuzz is long gone by then also
 
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