Discussion in 'References' started by akybo, Dec 6, 2008.
20 years for stealing a racquet?
do you mean deputy district attorney?
OK- calm down there cowboy. Nobody gets 20 years for stealing a racquet :roll: LOL, 20 years...
I thought it was a mandatory life sentence... :shock:
i was wondering the same thing. this guy go to jail yet?
mate if you ask the admin for his I.P. addy then this guy would get caught well kinda. you can locate some one using the i.p. but it isnt that accurate.i hear it tells you to go to a place like a mile aways from where the guy actually lives.
I wrote an email to his highschool principal assistant.
He told me he informed Trevor's mother about this.He asked me though to resolv this matter in other way than through his school.For me is enough his mother knows.
no, haha, i was just kidding. but thanks, i guess.
get the police involved. he just thieved you. if it was some one who you knew you would get the police on so do the same thing with this guy.
Couldnt resist myself haha.
First things first Mark did send it to the wrong address, I even have a note from my mail lady to prove it.
As for Akybo I am offering the APDC I bought from soggy ramens old shop.
Or some handlebars that I could buy from him that he wanted..
More lies for a liar. That or his mommy had to yell at him and make him cry. I like that he's said he's doing this and that and this and that but in the end it's all talk.
Go get more stuff stolen in your coaches office loser.
eh, its that guy in the title thread...lolz
ok this doesnt make sense now, which i believe is a lie, how the hell do u get a note from ur mail lady stating that she sent it to the wrong address, and by stating this, it shows that Mark did indeed send it to the right address imo
Im not here to argue about anything, im just here stating that im gonna do whats right and just send him his racquet back or the APDC. And I would like to apologize to him for any problems this may have caused him.
you are certainly correct because if mark sent it to the wrong address then there would be no way the post office lady would even know about trev Trev this is where your logic fails you because what you are saying is there are 4 parties:
3ost office Lady
1. If mark sends to wrong address then package would be taken from post office lady to the wrong address, now then we are going to assume that she left it at the door because who ever got the racket would probably say that there is no one of that name at this address, so then the post office lady either has to ship it back to the shipper or leave it at the post office to wait to be claimed or leave it at the door, now trev this is where you screw yourself up by including the post office lady
2. Post office people only deliver i doubt they take the time to cross search your name to find your correct address because i doubt that is part of their job
3. if the package had the wrong address how would they know where to find you then?
4. if they went to tell you that it was shipped to the wrong address they would bring the package and deliver it to you
do you realize how ridiculous it is to add more parties into a story because you just keep digging a hole for yourself
i was one of the people that said they should take it easier on you, i somewhat defended you, but man you really are just a jack@ss
*edit: in the case with Mark
dude my mom contacted her when she drove by and asked about possible wrong addresses marked as 18 instead of 108. She said yah it had been returned to sender, please stop I am telling the truth.
LOL "please stop I am telling the truth" you haven't told one truth in this entire thread. LOL keep lying you scumbag. I hope you go to jail in the future for committing something more serious since it seems you won't stop lying.
okay out of respect i will leave you alone after i type out these 2 questions?
Wouldn't it have been smarter to tell us all that bit of information at the start? you probably might have gotten a little bit more slack, and your story would have held together better, but you didn't and we know that new evidence isn't as helpful as one would think
Also: If the post office returned back to shipped then wouldn't mark have his aerostorm back, because then he wouldn't have had any reason to complain about you
I'm in High school too and i understand that you want to squiggle out of this, but man if you are going to lie then stick to one story and always check your previous statements before you tell us things that don't add up
I am done, The end
I'm looking at your original email and you gave me 109, not 108. Was this part of the scam??
Also if anyone cares to check confirmation number 03062400000132988185 you'll see that is was DELIVERED. The post office cannot do this if it was returned to me. Which of course it wasn't.
trev is good man?
Hey Trev, I'm glad you are recognizing that things are going to get really serious if you don't fix your problems, or else you wouldn't be back here on TT. Send Akybo back the APDC and tell the truth about what happened to Mark's racquet.
Just to prove that you pulled the same "Stolen racket" scam on me and Akybo, here's the transcript of Trevor's email:
I have some bad news, almost all of my tennis stuff is apparently stolen after I left it overnight at my school in my coaches office. I dont know what to tell you but that I will make it up to you. I have 1 racquet right now my yonex rds 003, 75 dollars on my paypal, 20 dollars cash, and I have some tennis string. Is any of that sufficient enough so that we can fix this trade. I can understand how this may sound fishy to you, but ill send your racquet back if I must.
Label/Receipt Number: 0306 2400 0001 3298 8185
Your item was delivered at 12:58 PM on October 31, 2008 in RAEFORD, NC 28376.
Trev need his panzy *** kicked!
Hmmmm Trev just said it was "returned to the sender". This is clear and conclusive evidence he is lying!
I think its pretty obvious what happened to Marks racket...it was delivered to Trevor and he is lying.
haha, mail it next door and then say it was sent to the "wrong" address... pitiful
which racquet did mark send him?
Think an Aerostorm
mm very sad
I am man this is so frustrating, I want to post proof but I dont want everyone having my address and whatnot. I have came on here as an attempt to clear my name and fix things with Akybo, but im not going make up something false to make myself appear honest when thats what im being.
Trev, its clear that Mark's racquet was delivered. You can't make up lies up against the evidence he provided.
If you have evidence, provide it. Just blot out your address.Seems to be another excuse you have.
hahaha yah that made my day
i'm sorry for the trade gone wrong akybo, hopefully you'll get something out of it soon
I have received an email from Trevor and other from his father.He will send me the APDC.After I'll receive it,I will post here.
Don't Kid a Kidder
Trevor, there are many foxes out there you will not outwit. Take this as a lesson for any potential future criminal activity. Currently, you're treading a dangerous path. Hopefully, this will wake you up
P.S. You're a really poor liar
P.P.S. Give Mark his racquet back or pay him what you owe him :-|
I had an Aeropro Drive Cortex and he was supposed to send me an Aerostorm (non tour version). He claimed that he one in about 10/10 condition. Actually, he owes me that 10/10 Aerostorm.
Somebody ought to gather all of Trev's posts/lies into one place and make an archive of it. How many proven lies were there? 20+? In any case, suffice it to say, everything he has said is a lie. He is nothing more than a purposeful scammer. Or does anybody think he keeps leaving his racquets in the coaches office to be stolen...well except for that rds003! lol. That one always survives, as does the 75$ he then mysteriously spends right away.
HE HAS LEARNED NOTHING....except he might even try to refine his crimes now. He is now making compensation ONLY because his parents are involved. I hope his parents apologized to you Akybo. I hope they also are taking disciplinary action. Poor Mark, he remains ripped off. There is actually a pretty good chance that his APDC is going to Akybo! At least it will be out of the hands of the criminal and into the hands of a victim. At least Mark would then know that while he still got ripped off, his goods went towards insuring justice for somebody else. Trev's parents should actually then take the PDR away and send it (or money) to Mark! Unless Trev actually did buy an APDC, in which case, he will still have Mark's!
In any case HE IS SCUM. PERIOD. ANY FUTURE NAMES FROM THIS GUY(as he has threatened) OUGHT TO BE ANNOUNCED TO US ALL IF IT"S POSSIBLE.
so Trev is finally sending the APDC to akybo
And mark still needs his Aero Storm.
How bout any compensation fees for all the hassle?
btw, thinking back on how people considered him as a kid, 17 isn't really a "kid" anymore
I am a bit confused. If Trevor did provide an incorrect address, then why have you not contacted the person that it was delivered to? You may eb able to contact the post master and file mail fraud charges against this punk. But you have done nothing (I am assuming this). If all you have done is complain on this thread (and had not started your own whcih is stupid) then you are clueless. If this kid indeed stole your racquet, then DO SOMETHING. The other guy is across the ocean, you are in the States. You can easily file mail fraud charges, especially since you have his emails and this thread. Stop posting and whining and get off your *** and do something.
To everyone: I also think this kid is a puke, but this Mark guy is a waste if all he has done is complain here and whine "it was delivered"...to me he needs to step up.
JUST READ WHAT I SAID AGAIN PLEASE. i never said stealing a racket would givehim 20 years in prison
Let's not jump to any conclusions :neutral:
Until I will see the APDC in my hands I cant be sure of anything Trevor sais.
do take note that mark is not actually complaining. he said awhile back that he does not really care about 1 racquet stolen. he is just voicing his opinions about trev343, not complaining about his situation.
and try not to get out of hand here, our main focus here is getting akbyo's stick back, then possibly mark's, but not attacking other members, or even victims for sure.
Out of curiosity, has anyone realized that Trev lives in Raeford, NC?
It is so obvious, that even now our dear lier is still the dumb lier. Do not trust him, he is not returning any racket or any money.
Because it shares the pronunciation of a famous penitentiary in Raiford, FL?
I noted that :lol:
Don't mind Azzurri. It is standard modus operandi of him to either not understand the posts/situation or not bother reading them. For the record, Mark did not complain, he offered confirmation of Akybo's story and was invaluable in exposing Trevor's lies and his scam. Mark has repeatedly stated that he
1.was trying to give Trevor the benefit of the doubt
2.had given up his racquet for lost
3.only realized beyond all doubt that he had been scammed until this thread
He has nothing to defend. Azzurri owes him an apology.
I preffer not to say what that message was about,if I will receive the racquet it will not matter,if I dont,I will get back into this.
^^^ isn't that postal fraud or something like that? and don't the post office take things like that very seriously?
I believe they do. Its pretty blatant. My thought was if it was indeed "delivered" to the wrong adress, then why not contact the post office? why not speak to the post master and get this straightened out? I am confused to this point. was the racquet delivered to an incorrect address? if so, why not make a call to the post office. if it was delivered to the correct address, then it seems like clear cut mail fraud to me.
I just don't know what to make of Mark Rodgers. I feel for him because he was scammed, but he has an opportunity to do something (call parents, post master, local police, etc.). To let this kid go, post no refrence and this is what happens. The kid scams someone else. Some people somehow miss this issue and it seems that FederFH and I are the only ones that think Mark should do something.
No Postal fraud would be if the racquet was delivered and Mark or Trev had made a claim that it was in fact not delivered and with the insurance on the item, Mark received compensation for the loss. In this case however according to USPS the item was in fact delivered.
We'd have to see the email correspondence between the two to determine if it was a shipment contract or a destination contract. A lawyer would have to infer that from the correspondence between the two parties if Mark was required to ship the item, or if it must be delivered to a specific location. The law is kind of funny whether you use the term "shipment" or "delivered" as the two terms are not interchangeable. If Mark just had to "ship" the racquet, then the title and risk of loss of the racquet are passed to Trev immediately as Mark gave the racquet to a courier. If the verbage indicates that Mark had to "Deliver" the racquet to Trev's specific residence, then transfer of title and the risk of loss would only be done once Trev receives the item.
Its also important to know that since Trev is still a minor, a minor has special rights when making contracts, in that they can void a contract at any time. So even if Trev did receive the racquet, he could easily change his mind and Void the contract between him and Mark after the fact. The only thing though is Trev has a responsibility to bring Mark into the position he was before he decides to void their exchange (ie: Mark gets his APD back). For this reason, dealing with minors on this board is not a good idea (aside from the obvious maturity and responsibility aspect). Any Contract or agreements minors enter into are considered VOIDABLE. which means they have the right to back out at anytime, even after the transaction has taken place! Of course the courts as of late has been viewing minors of a certain age to be held to their dealings as adults if they're fully aware of the situation but really... why take the risk?
Now according to what I've seen, Trev has in fact breached his contract with Mark. According to usps the item was delivered and he has not performed under the terms of his contract with Mark; to ship his Aerostorm. Mark is entitled to of course damages. He could ask for specific performance and that Trev deliver him an aerostorm as it is a fungible good (one that can be replaced if the original subject matter in question is lost or stolen). But courts generally do not grant specific performance and Mark will likely be given the value of his racquet or his aeropro back.
Now things get hairy here if Trev's aeropro is the same aeropro he tried to sell to Akybo. Since trev never fufilled his obligation to Mark, that specfic aeropro is now considered STOLEN. Now you cannot transfer the title of an object if you acquired it through stolen means. So even if Trev shipped Akybo the APD, mark can actually reclaim his APD straight from Akybo. But heres the thing, since Trev never had the title to the APD (if that was the APD he got from Mark, which he claims isn't though), that makes his transaction with Akybo void as well. Akybo could make this case that its a void transaction and get his PDR back.
So yeah, this is basically how this sticky situation would play out legally. In actuality it would goto small claims court and Mark or Akybo would leave a very nice mark on Trev's public record. Mark you should have 3 years for the statute of limitations on both yours or Trev's state (maybe longer) to pursue legal recourse.
So to sum it up, Trev's breached his contract with Mark in either scenario, and he either breached or had a void contract with akybo. There could also be a tort (civil wrong doings in a contractual obligation) involved with Trev dealing with stolen goods, or even criminal with the THEFT of Mark's racquet.
In anycase thank you all for reading my long post, as you can probably infer, I am studying vehemently for my Contract's final. But this should be a good template for TW users on the language and courses of actions that are involved with selling or trading a racquet here in the TT forums. Know your rights!
Thank you for the information. What would you advise Mark to do? Would Trevor's parnets be responsible in any way?
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