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lulo said:
Can anyone compare Pure Rush to any of the Toroline strings?
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I have used Toro Toro/Caviar, Toro Toro full bed, wasabi full bed, snaper, o-toro...etc.....but my main setup was Toro Toro/Caviar....

Versus Pure Rush...

Spin: PR>TT/C....for some reason, even Toro Toro i think is hexagonal as well as PR, i get more spin with PR
Confort: TT/C > PR...way softer toroline, PR is kinda medium or standar stifness, where to me the toroline strings a little softer....my hybrid setp up was 45lbs as well my PR full bed , and the hybrid is way softer
Power: PR>TT/C, i do not know if the stiffness plays a factor here, but yes you get more free power from PR, not that "powerful",but more than toroline
Control: TT/C >PR, to me the hybrid has more control, which i can translate also as having less power.

For my current playing styly and raquect (M99) pure rush is a better fit.

I want to try "snapper" onmy M99 to see how it plays, but if im correct i would need to string it at 47-49 lbs at least, because snapper is one of the softest strings from toroline, so to match the "feeling" of the bed of Pure Rush...
 
SF_45er said:
I’m really curious to hear how PR compares to other string setups for you. Also how full bed compares to GW hybrid.

In my case very different racket (18x20 gravity tour). I’ve liked Hyper G soft 1.20 (though not so great in this racket) and Tour Bite Soft 1.20 (amazing in this racket but only for a short time).
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I played with full bed and hybrid with GW. I personaly like full bed more. Its just a better feeling. with GW in crosses still fine, little more control, but i like the soft feel of a full bed. Still lots of control and deep shots.
 
Holic said:
I found Tour Status much more powerful and springy than both with much more spin potential as well.
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Yikes. springier than Pure Rush?? I have Tour Status 1.20 to try soon. But Im trying it b/c folks have said it's in between PR and BK. In my Gravity tour 100, at 46 lbs and 45 lbs respectively, I found PR 1.23 too springy and hard to control. BK 1.23 is a completely different string. I like it much better. Pairs well with the racket. It's definitely not "soft" no matter what the lab results say. Typical stiff poly. I want just a bit more pop -- the common recommendation is to hybrid with GW but since I haven't had luck with GW as a cross previously with shaped mains (either HG or FW), Im first trying Tour Status to see if it gives me what Im looking for.

As an aside -- the break-in period for BK is pretty annoying. I thought I wouldn't care but then I have 4G soft 1.25 in my other racket and plays so well right away (that string gives that extra pop Im looking for by the way -- it's just lacking bite of a shaped string though still might be my favorite string). (yes I can already hear you poly/poly mad scientists telling me to do BK/4GS...anyone try that??).
 
SF_45er said:
Yikes. springier than Pure Rush?? I have Tour Status 1.20 to try soon. But Im trying it b/c folks have said it's in between PR and BK. In my Gravity tour 100, at 46 lbs and 45 lbs respectively, I found PR 1.23 too springy and hard to control. BK 1.23 is a completely different string. I like it much better. Pairs well with the racket. It's definitely not "soft" no matter what the lab results say. Typical stiff poly. I want just a bit more pop -- the common recommendation is to hybrid with GW but since I haven't had luck with GW as a cross previously with shaped mains (either HG or FW), Im first trying Tour Status to see if it gives me what Im looking for.

As an aside -- the break-in period for BK is pretty annoying. I thought I wouldn't care but then I have 4G soft 1.25 in my other racket and plays so well right away (that string gives that extra pop Im looking for by the way -- it's just lacking bite of a shaped string though still might be my favorite string). (yes I can already hear you poly/poly mad scientists telling me to do BK/4GS...anyone try that??).
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Have you tried 4G rough?
 
I have been using PR 1.23 at 45lbs,,,,nd on my M99, this string feel very control oriented, which is great to me.

Genesis New feel more power, but was losing way to much tension after the first hit, and on the contrary with PR, holds tension very well even after 8 hours of play....
 
SF_45er said:
Yikes. springier than Pure Rush?? I have Tour Status 1.20 to try soon. But Im trying it b/c folks have said it's in between PR and BK. In my Gravity tour 100, at 46 lbs and 45 lbs respectively, I found PR 1.23 too springy and hard to control. BK 1.23 is a completely different string. I like it much better. Pairs well with the racket. It's definitely not "soft" no matter what the lab results say. Typical stiff poly. I want just a bit more pop -- the common recommendation is to hybrid with GW but since I haven't had luck with GW as a cross previously with shaped mains (either HG or FW), Im first trying Tour Status to see if it gives me what Im looking for.

As an aside -- the break-in period for BK is pretty annoying. I thought I wouldn't care but then I have 4G soft 1.25 in my other racket and plays so well right away (that string gives that extra pop Im looking for by the way -- it's just lacking bite of a shaped string though still might be my favorite string). (yes I can already hear you poly/poly mad scientists telling me to do BK/4GS...anyone try that??).
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Year 100% springier. Pure rush 1.28 however is a different story, powerful but not springy.
 
SF_45er said:
Yikes. springier than Pure Rush?? I have Tour Status 1.20 to try soon. But Im trying it b/c folks have said it's in between PR and BK. In my Gravity tour 100, at 46 lbs and 45 lbs respectively, I found PR 1.23 too springy and hard to control. BK 1.23 is a completely different string. I like it much better. Pairs well with the racket. It's definitely not "soft" no matter what the lab results say. Typical stiff poly. I want just a bit more pop -- the common recommendation is to hybrid with GW but since I haven't had luck with GW as a cross previously with shaped mains (either HG or FW), Im first trying Tour Status to see if it gives me what Im looking for.

As an aside -- the break-in period for BK is pretty annoying. I thought I wouldn't care but then I have 4G soft 1.25 in my other racket and plays so well right away (that string gives that extra pop Im looking for by the way -- it's just lacking bite of a shaped string though still might be my favorite string). (yes I can already hear you poly/poly mad scientists telling me to do BK/4GS...anyone try that??).
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poly/poly mad scientist here, if you already have the Tour Status why not try it with the Black Knight and report back your findings.
 
Grieeegoorr said:
poly/poly mad scientist here, if you already have the Tour Status why not try it with the Black Knight and report back your findings.
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I want to first try a string full bed before using in a hybrid. I'm hoping Tour Status is between BK and PR. If so, that's great. If not, then I might as well do BK and PR hybrid (also a nice color combination in Gravity).
 
I am moving away from 1.28/1.23 hybrid of PR to a full bed of 1.23 PR. Haven’t weighted it yet but 1.28 feels heavy and thick. Like Lynx tour 1.25…..
 
I am in a permanent cycle of not being able to decide if I want to do full poly (would probably do pure rush) or poly/hybrid (lots of polys are good with this setup). Poly has the spin and bite, but hybrid has the free power/ease of use.
 
Blade_X said:
I am moving away from 1.28/1.23 hybrid of PR to a full bed of 1.23 PR. Haven’t weighted it yet but 1.28 feels heavy and thick. Like Lynx tour 1.25…..
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it does appear to be heavy. I use 1.28 PR/1.22 GW and the strings add 33 SW on a 98 16x19 Blade. Most other mains I have crossed with 1.22 GW are in the 30-31 range.
 
Remioli said:
I am in a permanent cycle of not being able to decide if I want to do full poly (would probably do pure rush) or poly/hybrid (lots of polys are good with this setup). Poly has the spin and bite, but hybrid has the free power/ease of use.
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I've read some of your other posts on trying various combos, and see that you're partial to poly mains / non-poly crosses in your hybrids, which is cool. Seems like you're having trouble finding a poly main that won't behave so dead/spent later in life. For that, I would try an alternate newer-gen formulation, something like Toroline O-Toro, which I've found acts a bit less fully plasticized when it's dying/dead, even versus PR. As for crosses, seems like you're happy with OGSM, so I'd probably stick with that for now, though another to try would be Prince Lightning Pro, which as far as I can tell is simply a tweaked version of AK Pro (non-CX), made for Prince by Gosen. It stays slick for a while as well, but is ever-so-slightly softer and less crisp than OGSM, if that's desirable.
 
SF_45er said:
Yikes. springier than Pure Rush?? I have Tour Status 1.20 to try soon. But Im trying it b/c folks have said it's in between PR and BK. In my Gravity tour 100, at 46 lbs and 45 lbs respectively, I found PR 1.23 too springy and hard to control. BK 1.23 is a completely different string. I like it much better. Pairs well with the racket. It's definitely not "soft" no matter what the lab results say. Typical stiff poly. I want just a bit more pop -- the common recommendation is to hybrid with GW but since I haven't had luck with GW as a cross previously with shaped mains (either HG or FW), Im first trying Tour Status to see if it gives me what Im looking for.

As an aside -- the break-in period for BK is pretty annoying. I thought I wouldn't care but then I have 4G soft 1.25 in my other racket and plays so well right away (that string gives that extra pop Im looking for by the way -- it's just lacking bite of a shaped string though still might be my favorite string). (yes I can already hear you poly/poly mad scientists telling me to do BK/4GS...anyone try that??).
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have you tried Atomos?
 
I've been on the racket string journey for almost a year now. And have been experimenting so much, but overall, looking for a connected feel, crispness, not muted feel.
Overall I've already settled into using sync as a cross, but am curious to try out PR and see how it compares in the mains vs something like RSZ or tour bite.

From what I've gathered, I'd think that PR falls somewhere between RSZ and tour bite in the crisp non muted feel category is that correct? thanks yalll!!
 
brooksgbanks said:
Having just finished with almost 3 hours of doubles using PR (1.23 gauge) I can confirm the above (I've played quite a bit with Zero in many different configurations). PR doesn't have the same pocketing as Zero, so it definitely feels different. Slightly less power, slightly less spin, but better slice (stays lower and floats less) and better directional control (at least for my game style) as well as just better overall control. But I tend to prefer strings with less dwell time and just a quicker exit from the stringed, so that might be why I feel I have more control. Personally I like PR a bit more than Zero so far.

Have more sets, so will try as hybrid mains with Sync crosses (used Sync as cross with Atomos and that's my current favorite setup), Zero crosses (which is great crossed with Wasabi but cut through Atomos in 2 hours and Multifeel in the same), and Ghostwire crosses (when I get some more sets). See if any of them topple Atomos/Sync as my go to.
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Between Zero and PR, which one is more crisp/less muted/more connected feel?
Also using sync as a cross and trying to figure out between zero and PR mains.
 
@TRU PRO Official What tension do you recommend for Tour Status 1.20 if I string Black Knight 1.23 @ 45 lbs in my Gravity Tour 2023?

BK at that tension felt boardy at first but settled in nicely after 5 hrs (and going strong at 14 hrs). Though I might lower the cross tension next time and/or hybrid with GW122 to increase the launch angle.
 
SF_45er said:
@TRU PRO Official What tension do you recommend for Tour Status 1.20 if I string Black Knight 1.23 @ 45 lbs in my Gravity Tour 2023?

BK at that tension felt boardy at first but settled in nicely after 5 hrs (and going strong at 14 hrs). Though I might lower the cross tension next time and/or hybrid with GW122 to increase the launch angle.
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We recommend stringing Tour Status at the same tension as Black Knight. Tour Status will provide a crisper response. If Black Knight felt too boardy, you might also want to try Pure Rush, which also offers a crisper response.
 
Thanks!! Will do. BK is playing great. Was only boardy for break-in. Might try BK/GW at some point. PR I didnt enjoy that much. Wanted more control. Trying TS because a lot of folks seem like it; mentioned lack of break-in; there seems to be opposite views on whether it plays more or less stiff, but sounds like it should be crisper and more pop.
 
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TRU PRO Official said:
We recommend stringing Tour Status at the same tension as Black Knight. Tour Status will provide a crisper response. If Black Knight felt too boardy, you might also want to try Pure Rush, which also offers a crisper response.
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Was wondering when the 17g Pure Rush was coming back in stock? I think it was mentioned that it was going to be back in the next week last week.
 
SF_45er said:
Thanks!! Will do. BK is playing great. Was only boardy for break-in. Might try BK/GW at some point. PR I didnt enjoy that much. Wanted more control.
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Got It! If you are looking for a control-oriented string with a less boardy response, you could also try Durafluxx if you have not played with that string in the past.
 
TRU PRO Official said:
Got It! If you are looking for a control-oriented string with a less boardy response, you could also try Durafluxx if you have not played with that string in the past.
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I have not. But I’ll put it on my to do list. I was a bit apprehensive it was significantly stiffer than BK (but looks like less stiff than hyper g 1.20 which Im fine with). How does it compare with BK?
 
Trip said:
Pure insanity. Having felt, strung and played it myself, it's nowhere near those numbers. The USRSA's methodology must have seriously changed over the last couple years, or something's up...
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Do you think it's stiffer or softer than these numbers indicate?
 
These numbers are huge indeed. However, I wouldn't say that Pure Rush is a soft string. For me, the 1.23 gauge plays considerably crisper and stiffer than Hyper G in 1.20, which has a 195 stiffness rating on TWU. It really felt quite rigid when I first played it and I did have a funny feeling (kind of a discomfort) in my forearm for a day or two.

I used both strings in a hybrid with Ghostwire 1.18.
 
FrankyRelax said:
Do you think it's stiffer or softer than these numbers indicate?
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It feels softer. In that way it's kind of like 4G, which has stiff numbers but does not feel harsh or uncomfortable by any means.

Pure Rush isn't a mushy string like Lynx Touch or anything; it's medium-firm kind of like FireWire, and is not at all an overly stiff/dead string like Toro Toro or Confidential.
 
JOSHL said:
Just saw stiffness numbers for Pure Rush-
18g- 269
17g- 295
16g- 308
15g- 324
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Those results are quite surprising to us as well, especially since customer feedback doesn’t seem to align with the data.

We also took a closer look at lab results for other TRU PRO strings, particularly Black Knight and Ghost Wire. Interestingly, Black Knight’s 17g has a stiffness rating of 197, yet many players describe it as low-powered and rather "boardy." Meanwhile, Ghost Wire 17g, with a similar stiffness rating of 181, is widely considered soft and arm-friendly.

It’s fascinating how lab measurements don’t always translate to on-court feel—tennis string science remains full of surprises! :)
 
@TRU PRO Official - That's an awfully nice way of putting it.

I would love it if someone from the USRSA could engage us here as to exactly what is going on with their lab testing, as there is so much in their database that just doesn't add up, not just with Tru Pro strings, but so many others as well. It makes it really tough to take most of any of their "numbers" at much beyond a general guess, let alone an accurate representation...
 
JOSHL said:
Just saw stiffness numbers for Pure Rush-
18g- 269
17g- 295
16g- 308
15g- 324
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Yeah, these numbers seem off based on my experience using Pure Rush (17g & 18g) for several months now (full bed and hybrid). If it was that stiff, there is no way I would still be using it because my arm would be completely shot. For me it’s a very comfortable string - no arm issues at all using it.

For comparison, I’m a long-time user of Hyper-G (and more recently, the soft version), and to me, Pure Rush feels like it is softer than both Hyper-G and Hyper-G Soft. I even string Pure Rush 1-2# tighter than either Hyper-G version because it plays that much softer to me (or again, feels that much softer).
 
maciej84 said:
These numbers are huge indeed. However, I wouldn't say that Pure Rush is a soft string. For me, the 1.23 gauge plays considerably crisper and stiffer than Hyper G in 1.20, which has a 195 stiffness rating on TWU. It really felt quite rigid when I first played it and I did have a funny feeling (kind of a discomfort) in my forearm for a day or two.

I used both strings in a hybrid with Ghostwire 1.18.
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Elaborating on my previous post, I have tested Pure Rush 1.23 side to side with Hyper G 1.20, in hybrid with Ghostwire 1.18, in the Head Speed Pro 2022. The Hyper G hybrid has been my go-to setup for quite a long time now. The tension on both rackets was 20.5/21 kg.

Like I said, Pure Rush immediately felt crisper and more direct than Hyper G. It had some kind of metallic feeling to it, while Hyper G, I would describe it as more plastic feeling. That was fine for me, I liked getting more feedback from my shots. This was especially perceptible during the first 2 hours of hitting.

Pure Rush seemed to have a slightly higher launch angle for me. Also, Pure Rush also felt slightly less powerful than Hyper G, but maybe that was due too the bigger diameter? After two hours of hitting, these differences were no longer so obvious.

Like I said, I did feel some slight discomfort in my forearm after the first session, so it doesn't really surprise me that Pure Rush was measured as stiffer than Hyper G. I have a sensitive arm, so I pay attention to such signals.

Tension maintenance is very decent, I have now clocked 5-6 hours on the string and it still plays very well. However, it looks like it will break in the next 2 hours, so it's less durable than Hyper G, which usually lasts me 8-10 hours.

I have now strung another racket with Pure Rush 1.18 / Ghostwire 1.17, same 20.5/21 tension. Let's see how that works.
 
I just strung up Pure Rush for the first time tonight. I went with the 1.28M/1.23C hybrid that @Blade_X was praising up until switching to full bed 1.23 recently. I’m coming from a gut/poly hybrid with 1.35 Babolat Tonic mains and 1.25 Wilson Revolve crosses, so I didn’t feel like it was a good idea to go with a dramatically thinner main. I also bought one set of 1.33 PR that I might try next depending on how this first hybrid plays.

While stringing, the 1.28 felt slightly thicker than expected, more like 1.30. It also had some pretty sharp edges, but nothing extreme like Firewire. I can report that there were no cut fingers while stringing. I strung mains and crosses at 50lbs on my Gamma 6004 LO machine. Thought this will be a good baseline to adjust from.

For reference, I’m a 4.5 singles player that grinds at the baseline 95% of the time. I use weighted up Yonex Ai98’s (350g, 340SW, 8pts HL). I’ve used Black Knight in the past and liked it for its control and predictable behavior. It was always a little too low-powered for me though. I could never get on with Firewire or Firewire Boost. I couldn’t find enough control with either to really swing out. I do have a few sets of Ghostwire left, so I plan on eventually trying them as a cross with Pure Rush.

I’ll report back after hitting tomorrow. I really hope these live up to the hype. I’m tired of paying for gut, so it would be great to find an affordable poly that I can switch to moving forward.
 
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