Trying to classify the Laver Cup. What is it really?

What type of event is the Laver Cup, or with which we could assimilate it to?


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Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
Please, answer this question with absolute honesty (*)
Is the Laver Cup an exhibition or not? If not, what is the tournament category it should be assimilated to?

(*): Just in case, sorry if the emphasis of the question offends you.
 
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Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
The Laver Cup is indeed that....The Laver Cup.

He actually had some of his trophies melted to make the new trophy you see today.
Thanks for your participation. Unfortunately, I am a person who labels everything, so this answer is not satisfactory.
 
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NonP

Hall of Fame
I don't include it in my GW% calculations, so basically an exo a la the World Team Cup of yore. I'll never understand what marketing geniuses at the ATP/ITF were thinking when they decided to bastardize one of the sport's most prestigious tournaments (DC) while green-lighting not one but TWO (ATP Cup) new sideshows that detract from said historic event.

Speaking of which:

Halfway between exho and an ATP Cup type team event that I take more seriously.
I've yet to catch a single sec of the ATP Cup. It it really more serious than the Laver, or is that more because of the timing (around New Year's)?
 

Sunny014

Legend
Laver Cup is a fiefdom of Federer.

No idea why it is called Laver Cup when under the garb of Laver's name it is Federer running it along with Borg and Mcenroe.

It should be called Federer cup.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
I don't include it in my GW% calculations, so basically an exo a la the World Team Cup of yore. I'll never understand what marketing geniuses at the ATP/ITF were thinking when they decided to bastardize one of the sport's most prestigious tournaments (DC) while green-lighting not one but TWO (ATP Cup) new sideshows that detract from said historic event.

Speaking of which:



I've yet to catch a single sec of the ATP Cup. Is it really more serious than the Laver, or is that more because of the timing (around New Year's)?
It's the ATP's idea of trying to take away from Davis Cup! The ITF and ATP have been at war for as long as I can remember and each have done things to hurt themselves and the game! I didn't think it could get worse with dueling YEC's back in the 90's (GS CUP a joke)! After all the whinging about long seasons, Federer of all people created this glorified exhibition called the Laver Cup! I've watched a few points here and there, but I can't take it seriously! The ATP Cup was interesting last year when Novak led Serbia to the Cup, but the dynamics were different with Nadal and Med challenging Novak at the end! :unsure: :sneaky: :giggle::notworthy:
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Laver Cup is a fiefdom of Federer.

No idea why it is called Laver Cup when under the garb of Laver's name it is Federer running it along with Borg and Mcenroe.

It should be called Federer Cup.
That's probably what will happen after Fed's left the game or expires; in Memoriam! :unsure:;):happydevil:
 

ibbi

Legend
What could it be classified as other than an exhibition?

I have no doubt that Federer hopes it will one day be held up as highly as the Ryder Cup is, and maybe one day it will get there (though tennis not being as popular as golf probably doesn't help its case) but nothing new ever shoots immediately up to that kind of level of prestige.
 

fedfan08

Professional
What could it be classified as other than an exhibition?

I have no doubt that Federer hopes it will one day be held up as highly as the Ryder Cup is, and maybe one day it will get there (though tennis not being as popular as golf probably doesn't help its case) but nothing new ever shoots immediately up to that kind of level of prestige.
Ryder Cup has been around for over 40 years. Who knows if Laver Cup will last that long but they get people to show up and the crowds are into it. I’ve been watching the Ryder Cup this week as well and so far it’s been quite boring. The European team is completely out of sorts, playing like crap. The score after a day and a half is 9 - 3 USA leading. And team USA usually performs best in the Sunday singles so this could be a complete blowout. At least the Laver Cup matches yesterday were competitive and a couple could have gone either way.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
It's the ATP's idea of trying to take away from Davis Cup! The ITF and ATP have been at war for as long as I can remember and each have done things to hurt themselves and the game! I didn't think it could get worse with dueling YEC's back in the 90's (GS CUP a joke)! After all the whinging about long seasons, Federer of all people created this glorified exhibition called the Laver Cup! I've watched a few points here and there, but I can't take it seriously! The ATP Cup was interesting last year when Novak led Serbia to the Cup, but the dynamics were different with Nadal and Med challenging Novak at the end! :unsure: :sneaky: :giggle::notworthy:
2020 atp cup was awesome and even this year Russia win was excellent but I have never been serious about Laver cup
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
2020 atp cup was awesome and even this year Russia win was excellent but I have never been serious about Laver cup
Right. I forgot there was an ATP cup, I think I need to make another thread.
It's so evident they are attacking the Davis Cup with these sh1tty reality shows.
 
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Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
I think it's time we find a name for the combination of the victory in the 4 Slams + the Laver Cup in the same calendar year.
How should we call it?
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Since the results of every match are pre-determined, we can all safely agree it's an exhibition. The fact the ATP agreed to put LC results into official H2H tallies was insanity. But until the ATP awards points to the LC, it will remain without any question an exo.
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
It's like Davis/ATP Cup with no ATP points on offer. I think it's quite fun, and will be even moreso when the lineup contains more good/interesting players
 

Rosstour

Legend
Laver Cup is a fiefdom of Federer.

No idea why it is called Laver Cup when under the garb of Laver's name it is Federer running it along with Borg and Mcenroe.

It should be called Federer cup.
Federer did this to put some money in Laver's pocket as he hardly made any money in his day compared to what they are doing now.

Maybe he should be a really good guy and form a breakaway player's association and infect a bunch of players with COVID during a worldwide lockdown. That would be much better.
 

fedfan08

Professional
Since the results of every match are pre-determined, we can all safely agree it's an exhibition. The fact the ATP agreed to put LC results into official H2H tallies was insanity. But until the ATP awards points to the LC, it will remain without any question an exo.
Ok I’ll bite. If the matches are predetermined why has Team World not won a LC yet?
 

goldengate14

Professional
It is a hit and giggle and a chance for millionaire playboys to get together to celebrate the end of season as once the slams are over the season is really over.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
It’s entertainment.

That’s why the focus is on resourcing entertaining players.
They want it to be competitive, so some match-ups have to be staged in some way! Heaven knows it was a joke Novak lost all his matches! :sneaky: (n):laughing:
 

mtommer

Hall of Fame
I like Laver Cup for the staged tight matches, the fake drama, the fake player reactions. I like that almost all of the matches finish in 3 sets. It's a pure entertainment and great fun, something different from the regular tour that's for sure.
Fake? Perhaps. While the Laver Cup is an exbo, I don't believe it's a typical one where players are paid by "non tennis" entities specifically to entertain a selected clientele, and by extension the public as an afterthought. For example, the Kygrios (sp?) Federer match from a few years ago I believe was an authetic effort on both players to win. It seems to me that the up and comers know this is a great opportunity to play the top players that they may not otherwise get to do so in a typical tournament. The top players get to test their mettle against the popular at the moment up and comers to give the crowd the matchups they would love to see. Now, some players most likely take it more seriously than others, not realizing the long term effect of not being asked back by Fed and the organizers. How big of a deal is that? I suppose it depends on the personality of each player. Federer and the top players have so much clout within tennis circles that positive praise from them could lead to great opportunities outside of the existing tournament structure. Some will see this and play accordingly. Some will see this, not care, and play accordingly (ie for their own reasons and thus may be great or mediocre play, I suppose). Some will see only the short term, surface level benefits and play accordingly.

With the event being named the Laver Cup, I think it typifies Federer's love of tennis and genuine respect for it's history and subsequent humility to it. I've always sensed that it's Federer's hope to simply get great tennis, and concurrent entertainment value for the crowd, sharing a passion he has with hopefully like minded players and people.
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
I just love the event

Unique format, great courts, ideal for the crowd as well as television , team emotions , what is not to like about it ?

Above all it is respect for Laver, Borg and McEnroe
 

The Fedfather

Hall of Fame
It's a cool idea for the tour. On top of it being top players, we get to seethe singles players - typically opponents/rivals - working together in teams, giving each other advice. It's definitely an interesting concept for many fans, but it suffers from a very imbalanced team formation.
 
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