trying to figure out golf

[sureshs]

You don't have to use a 125" racket, bud.

You should use a Wilson T2000.

I use a 95 like Yokovich

 

[tennis3]

Statistically speaking, club head speed is a good predictor of golf handicap. Obviously is all you do is try to increase club head speed (longest drive champion), you might be a bit of an outlier. But it generally hold true.

Suffice it to say, it's not easy to generate 110 plus club head speed. But it is very, very hard to generate that speed in a controlled enough manner to efficiently impart that to the ball. If you have achieved that, you should be (statistically speaking) a very, very good golfer.

Here's how fast golfers swing their driver based on handicap

In today's Play Smart, we're using Trackman data to show you how your driver clubhead speed compares to your fellow golfers.

golf.com

 

[jimmy8]

In my opinion, to get better you need to play at least 3 times a week. Playing often will give you more consistency on your shot, more accuracy, and more confidence to swing harder (after a couple months of playing often) and it will increase with time. That was my experience.

Practice the short game to decrease your score even more.

 

[Sentinel]

I use a 95 like Yokovich

That's your table tennis paddle size? Wow.

 

[Bartelby]

The advantage of golf over tennis is that you play against the card. I'm tired of all this forced sociability, although I'm sure most seek it.

In my opinion, to get better you need to play at least 3 times a week. Playing often will give you more consistency on your shot, more accuracy, and more confidence to swing harder (after a couple months of playing often) and it will increase with time. That was my experience.

Practice the short game to decrease your score even more.

 

[optic yellow]

The advantage of golf over tennis is that you play against the card. I'm tired of all this forced sociability, although I'm sure most seek it.

until you start betting

 

[vokazu]

I admit I'm bad at golf. Never played it when I was younger. When I tried it for the first time I often hit the divider board that separate golfers in the driving range. I want to hit it straight to the front and the ball kept going sideways lol.

 

[indyfob2008]

I know lots of people who figured out tennis on their own and play quite well, have yet to find someone who figured out golf without plenty of lessons.

right. I've met plenty of people who figured out and play tennis well. many of them played other sports like racquetball, badminton, table tennis, squash, and that background helped them. Golf seems to be in its own world, and playing other sports (for most people) does not help a lot, thus like you said, lessons and coaching are needed.

 

[indyfob2008]

My father, a phd rocket scientist by trade, self-taught his way to a an 8 handicap.

He was fascinated with the technical aspects of scoring well in golf, and didn’t care what his swing looked like. He had a stiff looking swing without much wrist, and didn’t have much length off the tee and didn’t hit his irons that far, but somehow he figured out how to hit a golf ball very straight with no slice or hook. And he practiced his chips in the back yard religiously until he was ridiculously good in the short game. He was one of those guys that always seemed to overperform in tournaments and get accused of sandbagging.

he's like the golf version of those USTA 4.5 guys who have ugly-ass strokes but never miss and hit low slices, sideline to sideline, and hit great lobs over every net-rusher, and win almost every match

 

[travlerajm]

he's like the golf version of those USTA 4.5 guys who have ugly-ass strokes but never miss and hit low slices, sideline to sideline, and hit great lobs over every net-rusher, and win almost every match

I’m the tennis version of pops.

 

[happyandbob]

These are swing speeds needed for distances using modern equipment. I'd suggest that greater swing speeds would have been needed to achieve the same distances with older equipment.

To carry a 300 fence (how tall?) today, you'd probably need 130 MPH swing speed. If we assume 15% more is needed with older equipment, a 150 MPH swing speed would be necessary. And that 150 MPH swing speed would have to be "pretty perfect" to impart that power to the ball.


To carry 330 yards (not hit over a fence at that distance) would probably have needed a swing speed of (140 * 1.15) 160 MPH. The fastest swing speed ever recorded is 169.6 by Seb Twaddell, who is 6' 6". I don't know his weight, but I'd assume around 240 lbs.

Not sure what the source of that chart is, but it's doesn't quite sync up to what's happening at long drive contests. As @Grafil Injection mentioned earlier, the long drive contest allows 48" shafts, which help them get greater club head speed. If you watch the DeChambeau video, you'll see they're getting ball speeds of 220 mph off the club and that's going 420+ yards hitting a fade not a draw. The clubhead is probably going 160 mph at contact.

 

[dannyslicer]

he's like the golf version of those USTA 4.5 guys who have ugly-ass strokes but never miss and hit low slices, sideline to sideline, and hit great lobs over every net-rusher, and win almost every match

You mean 4.0
Never seen a 4.5 with ugly strokes
4.5 is ex-college

 

[tennis3]

Not sure what the source of that chart is, but it's doesn't quite sync up to what's happening at long drive contests.

The chart comes from computer data from actual swings averaged together.

I don't know much about Longest Drive Competitions. If you want (and you find it interesting), feel free to post that data. I guess we can see the difference between what they use (longer, stiffer shafts and lower lofts) compared to "normal" equipment.

Tour players are rarely hitting max effort drives in tournaments. When I was in HS, a group of us baseball pitchers used to go to the driving range together. Most of us threw 75+ mph fastballs and we could all bomb drives. The back fence was about 300 yards, we could all regularly hit drives over that fence on the fly.

What would be your guess as to your swing speed?

I was guessing it would take 150 MPH with the equipment you were using. Does that seem about right?

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

You mean 4.0
Never seen a 4.5 with ugly strokes
4.5 is ex-college

Have seen plenty of 4.5 (& 5.0) players with hideous serves. Ugly strokes, less common but not unheard of. Even some pro players, like Ernests Gulbis and Francoise Durr had ugly-ass forehand strokes

 

[travlerajm]

You mean 4.0
Never seen a 4.5 with ugly strokes
4.5 is ex-college

are you calling me pretty?

 

[dannyslicer]

are you calling me pretty?

Actually I forgot about MEP

 

[TTMR]

I'm just assuming you're not being serious (and meme-ing "Uncle Rico" in you avatar?).

This guy "only" carried the ball 308, so he'd have trouble getting it over a fence that is 300 yards away. (Just skip to 2:10 to see him hit the driver). And he's using current clubs and balls. Not stuff from the 80's or early 90's.

To carry a 300 yard fence, you'd need a swing speed in excess of 120 mph (and get everything else right too).

How far you can actually hit your driver

This story was selected as one of the 15 best GolfWRX stories of 2015! For 22 years I have taught golf full time, and the one thing that has NEVER changed is the unrealistic expectations golfers have of how far they think they can drive the ball with their current swing speed. When I ask...

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For 22 years I have taught golf full time, and the one thing that has NEVER changed is the unrealistic expectations golfers have of how far they think they can drive the ball with their current swing speed.

When I ask students how far they carry the ball and what their average total distance is, the answer is usually grossly inaccurate and overstated 99 percent of the time. It has taken technology such as Trackman and FlightScope, the most popular Doppler Radar systems, to help people truly understand how far they can hit their drives.

Good stuff. I average 200 off the tee without muscling it. 225 when I decide to go for oomph (usually don't due to arthritis).

Wife usually beats me in the short game though.

 

[optic yellow]

Good stuff. I average 200 off the tee without muscling it. 225 when I decide to go for oomph (usually don't due to arthritis).

Wife usually beats me in the short game though.

It's the deft softness of the feminine touch.

 

[Better_Call_Raul]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806532214303195304

 

[adil1972]

[13/12, 3:55 pm] Adil Khan: My late father used to say a european person who has golf club membership. The bank will instantly grant him loan of US $50,000 without any other proof or requirement.

Was my dad correct?

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[13/12, 3:55 pm] Meta AI: That's an interesting claim! While it's difficult to verify the exact statement, there is some truth to the idea that being a member of a prestigious golf club can be seen as a status symbol and potentially influence one's creditworthiness.

In the past, particularly in the UK, membership in exclusive golf clubs was often associated with wealth, social status, and business connections. Some banks and financial institutions might have viewed golf club membership as an indicator of a person's creditworthiness, stability, and potential for repayment.

However, it's highly unlikely that a bank would grant a loan of $50,000 without any other proof or requirements, solely based on golf club membership. Modern banking practices and regulations require lenders to follow strict credit assessment procedures, including credit checks, income verification, and collateral evaluation.

It's possible that your father might have exaggerated or simplified the statement, or that it was based on a specific anecdote or experience. Nevertheless, being a member of a reputable golf club can still be seen as a positive factor in certain social and business circles, potentially influencing one's reputation and relationships.

It's worth noting that this concept is more relevant to the past, and modern banking practices have become more standardized and regulated. Today, lenders prioritize creditworthiness, financial stability, and verifiable income over social status or affiliations.

[13/12, 3:52 pm] Adil Khan: What is price of golf club and golf ball in us dollars

[13/12, 3:53 pm] Meta AI: The cost of golf clubs can vary greatly, depending on the type and quality of the club. A single driver can range from $300 to $400, but can quickly get more expensive with high-end graphite shafts, potentially exceeding $1,000. A complete set of golf clubs, including 14 clubs, can cost anywhere from $600 to $1,500 or more, depending on the brand and quality ¹.

As for golf balls, the prices vary based on the brand, quality, and construction. On average, a box of new golf balls can range from $15 to $60 for a dozen balls. Here's a breakdown of the prices for different types of golf balls:

- *Two-piece construction golf balls*: $15 to $35 per dozen, known for their distance and durability.
- *Multi-layer construction golf balls*: $25 to $60+ per dozen, offering greater control and spin.
- *Golf balls with urethane cover*: $30 to $60+ per dozen, providing a softer feel and more spin.
- *Golf balls with surlyn/ionomer cover*: $15 to $35 per dozen, offering a more durable and affordable option.

Some popular golf ball brands and their prices include:

- *Titleist*: $40 to $60+ per dozen
- *Callaway*: $30 to $50 per dozen
- *TaylorMade*: $30 to $50 per dozen
- *Bridgestone*: $30 to $50 per dozen

Keep in mind that prices can vary depending on the retailer, location, and availability. It's always a good idea to shop around and compare prices to find the best deal ².