Trying to move on from the Prince Textreme Tour 95 (or not).....

tpro2000

Rookie
So in a nutshell, I've been trying to move on from the Tour 95 (2015) to possibly a different (yet similar) racquet. I tried the new version and wasn't too impressed. I also tried (and used) the Dunlop Srixon Revo 3.0F modified to similar specs of the Prince, and while it was close, never felt quite right. I also tried Yonex Vcore Pro 97 (310), WIlson Pro Staff 97, Dunlop CX 200 Tour (16x19), and even an Angell.

Btw, does anyone have a grip issue after using the Prince? I use a L4 grip in Prince, but with any other company it has to be L3 with occasional build-up....

With that said, maybe you guys could give some input on racquets. I did some searching by beam width (which is important to me), strung weight, and balance. I can modify racquets as needed as well.

Here's what I came up with:

Wilson Blade 98 (16x19)
Wilson Clash 98
Head 360 Radical MP/Pro
Yonex VCORE 98
Volkl V-Sense 10 Mid (96)/Tour (98)
Tecnifibre TFight 315 Ltd XTC (98)

All are between 11.4-11.8 strung, thinner beam width, anywhere from 4-8pts hl strung.

Worst case scenario is try to stock up on Tour 95's.... lol. Thanks!
 

kailash

Professional
Why are you trying to move away?
What are you looking for in the new racquet (that TT95 is lacking)?
 

hurworld

Professional
If grip size is an issue. Stick with Prince. Prince Phantom 93P or TT100 (310).

Was gonna suggest the VCP97 (310) too but I see you have tried and passed on it already.
 

tigonian02

New User
I used to use a prince TT95 a few years ago. After changing to the now defunct Prince Classic Response (which was pretty awesome after you got used to it) and now the Prince Phantom Pro 100p. I definitely say to try all the phantoms. Don’t let the string pattern push you away. They feel great and play better than the TT95.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Why are you trying to move away?
What are you looking for in the new racquet (that TT95 is lacking)?
I'm a teaching pro and we used to carry prince at my club, but now we don't. So I'd like to move to something more current and easily accessible for others to try/buy through my pro shop.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
If grip size is an issue. Stick with Prince. Prince Phantom 93P or TT100 (310).

Was gonna suggest the VCP97 (310) too but I see you have tried and passed on it already.
It's just weird with the prince. Like their 4 1/2 is just smaller than all other companies, but I think I've found the fix there by using a half sleeve buildup. Plus the sleeve adds the weight I like in the handle as well.

I was looking at the 14x18 phantom, probably because of the spin. Lol

The VC97 I found just a little too flexy for my own personal liking. Great racquet though!
 

hurworld

Professional
It's just weird with the prince. Like their 4 1/2 is just smaller than all other companies, but I think I've found the fix there by using a half sleeve buildup. Plus the sleeve adds the weight I like in the handle as well.

I was looking at the 14x18 phantom, probably because of the spin. Lol

The VC97 I found just a little too flexy for my own personal liking. Great racquet though!
I see you have Clash 98 in your list. Wouldn't that be even more flexy than VCP97?
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I see you have Clash 98 in your list. Wouldn't that be even more flexy than VCP97?
It may be, but in terms of specs I just listed. I have a friend who works on the pro tour that uses it currently, and says it isn't as flexible in the throat comparably to the rest of the frame.

I hit with our Radical MP demo, strung with Pro Edge at 52#, overgrip and dampner and it felt pretty good. I just added some lead under the grip so I'll see how that feels too
 

hurworld

Professional
It may be, but in terms of specs I just listed. I have a friend who works on the pro tour that uses it currently, and says it isn't as flexible in the throat comparably to the rest of the frame.

I hit with our Radical MP demo, strung with Pro Edge at 52#, overgrip and dampner and it felt pretty good. I just added some lead under the grip so I'll see how that feels too
Cool. Look forward to reading your thoughts on the racquets you will be trying.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
The 2019 Head Radical is super interesting. I went in thinking I wouldn't like it, but it makes easy power, and has no shock/vibration (which i like).

I need to bring the static weight up but lead under the grip, 3/9, and a littke at 12 so far and it's awesome. I think I sits around 11.8 currently (330g)
 

kailash

Professional
I'm a teaching pro and we used to carry prince at my club, but now we don't. So I'd like to move to something more current and easily accessible for others to try/buy through my pro shop.
Ok, I would recommend demoing some of the racquets from your list. Is Prokennex an option? If so, try the Q+ Tour 325 and or 315.

TT95 is very unique! You could also try customizing an Angell to identical specs and see.
 

mhkeuns

Hall of Fame
I think if you liked the TT95, I think you’d like the 93P even more. Don’t let the headsize turn you off. It does not feel smaller than the TT95. I do not notice the difference even while switching between the 97” or 98” frames. Also, although it’s heavier, I felt the C10 Pro plays really close to,the TT95 but with a lot more power.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
I know you are trying to move away from Prince, but the 93P 14x18 is a very, very good stick, whose specs are not miles away from the TT95 (2015).

You would need to find the right string, though, as they will break much sooner given the very open pattern. A durable string in a gauge 16 would do the trick, and play very nicely in that frame.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I know you are trying to move away from Prince, but the 93P 14x18 is a very, very good stick, whose specs are not miles away from the TT95 (2015).

You would need to find the right string, though, as they will break much sooner given the very open pattern. A durable string in a gauge 16 would do the trick, and play very nicely in that frame.
I've definitely thought about that one. I think I'll have to try and get my hands on one locally and give it a try. The only thing with Prince is because of TW, there's no more outside reps, no coaches/players deals like in the older days. I'm trying to switch to something I can get through local reps
 

LeftyJunk

Rookie
So in a nutshell, I've been trying to move on from the Tour 95 (2015) to possibly a different (yet similar) racquet. I tried the new version and wasn't too impressed. I also tried (and used) the Dunlop Srixon Revo 3.0F modified to similar specs of the Prince, and while it was close, never felt quite right. I also tried Yonex Vcore Pro 97 (310), WIlson Pro Staff 97, Dunlop CX 200 Tour (16x19), and even an Angell.

Btw, does anyone have a grip issue after using the Prince? I use a L4 grip in Prince, but with any other company it has to be L3 with occasional build-up....

With that said, maybe you guys could give some input on racquets. I did some searching by beam width (which is important to me), strung weight, and balance. I can modify racquets as needed as well.

Here's what I came up with:

Wilson Blade 98 (16x19)
Wilson Clash 98
Head 360 Radical MP/Pro
Yonex VCORE 98
Volkl V-Sense 10 Mid (96)/Tour (98)
Tecnifibre TFight 315 Ltd XTC (98)

All are between 11.4-11.8 strung, thinner beam width, anywhere from 4-8pts hl strung.

Worst case scenario is try to stock up on Tour 95's.... lol. Thanks!
I just demoed the Technifibre 315 LTD XTC next to the Pro Staff 97 with Countervail and preferred the Pro Staff just because of how much more maneuverable it was, very whippy through the air and still very stable. The Technifibre was also a very solid racquet with adequate power and super stable. I am looking to move on from my Prince Phantom 100P's to get a little more free power. I feel like my shoulder was wearing out from having to swing out on every shot. My next demos that I'm hitting with tonight are the Prince Tour 100 and Tour 100P. I've only hit with your Tour 95 once but I think you will like the Technifibre! Give it a try!
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I just demoed the Technifibre 315 LTD XTC next to the Pro Staff 97 with Countervail and preferred the Pro Staff just because of how much more maneuverable it was, very whippy through the air and still very stable. The Technifibre was also a very solid racquet with adequate power and super stable. I am looking to move on from my Prince Phantom 100P's to get a little more free power. I feel like my shoulder was wearing out from having to swing out on every shot. My next demos that I'm hitting with tonight are the Prince Tour 100 and Tour 100P. I've only hit with your Tour 95 once but I think you will like the Technifibre! Give it a try!
Funny you should say that, before my Prince I had the Tecnifibre TFight 320 2012-2015ish and loved it. I almost bought one of the XTC Ltd to try it because I can get it decently cheap, but at 315 wouldn't have too much wiggle room with customizing so I held off haha.
 

flanker2000fr

Professional
I've definitely thought about that one. I think I'll have to try and get my hands on one locally and give it a try. The only thing with Prince is because of TW, there's no more outside reps, no coaches/players deals like in the older days. I'm trying to switch to something I can get through local reps
I hear you. Prince distribution is problematic, and not only in the US.

I saw you tried the Yonex Vcore Pro 97 (310). You didn't like that frame? I thought it would have been an easy transition from the TT95, once weighted to your preferences.
 

tpro2000

Rookie
I hear you. Prince distribution is problematic, and not only in the US.

I saw you tried the Yonex Vcore Pro 97 (310). You didn't like that frame? I thought it would have been an easy transition from the TT95, once weighted to your preferences.
Yeah it was a super fun racquet, very similar to the Angell I got used (though the Angell is a 100), but I couldn't get the grip size to fit right, and it was a bit too flexy in the throat for my liking. It went through the air beautifully, but I had some issues on serve and bh (where I felt the flex the most - and BH is one of my best shots besides serve+volley).

I guess I'm realizing I like muted, somewhat low powered, little flex frames... lol
 

tpro2000

Rookie
The new Radical MP has been fun. Restrung it at 47# with 16g Sonic Pro Edge (I want to try some different strings as well), and it plays great. Easy power, muted feel but easy access to spin for me.

I have lead from about the 3rd cross string from the top (2 o'clock-ish) to the 3rd cross up from the bottom (5ish?) on both sides. Also have 6 rings of lead from the top of the butt cap up the handle under the grip. Using a thicker replacement grip fixed my grip issue, plus an overgrip and dampner puts it at 338g approximately. It truly feels solid, and seems like my specs so far.

So far....lol! :)
 

ajgranite

New User
I would definitely give the new Dunlop Srixon CX 200 Tour 16X19 a try. I seem to like similar rackets/specs and, among the rackets I’ve played — in an effort to move on from my beloved Wilson Pro Staff Tour 95 — the Dunlop May be my next racket ... I actually just ordered the Tour 95 (2015) to demo just in case I like it as much as the Dunlop.


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tpro2000

Rookie
I would definitely give the new Dunlop Srixon CX 200 Tour 16X19 a try. I seem to like similar rackets/specs and, among the rackets I’ve played — in an effort to move on from my beloved Wilson Pro Staff Tour 95 — the Dunlop May be my next racket ... I actually just ordered the Tour 95 (2015) to demo just in case I like it as much as the Dunlop.


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I actually did get one at a good price, the Dunlop, and while it's a great frame, the Dunlop 16x19 pattern actually narrows towards the middle of the string bed, whereas the Prince, and other traditionally open patterns have most of the cross section of the head the same size. So, same string at same tension the Dunlop didn't get the same spin and pop the Prince does (to me at least).

I love my Prince. I used it to my 4.5 matches in our playoffs and it's like butter.

Though, I have an Angell TC100 16x19, 348g strung, overgrip, dampner and it's amazing. I actually ordered a TC95 (unstrung 320g, 31cm balance) because they were having a deal. If I like it that may be it for me and have my Prince's on standby lol!
 

tpro2000

Rookie
Would love to get your feedback on the Angell TC95 -- I'm definitely eyeing one.
If it's anything like the 100 with the same spec, it's fun. Powerful at lower tensions, easy on the arm, very quick through the air with the 20mm beam, very solid. I find the 100 a little odd coming from the 95 Prince but could get used to it.

I'll definitely post when it comes in - hopefully early next week.
 
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