Nah, I've moved on and don't care about Fed's GOAT status.
Argument 1: Fed defeated Sampras. Tsitsipas got destroyed by an older Nadal.
No, you mentioned 3 GOATS in relation to Tsitsipas and I disagreed because they can't be blamed for his ineptitude.
All of us are armchair critics, including you.
No, my arguments are laughable because I don't support your assertion.
Tsitsipas also showed Goats can be beaten, less than a year ago he beat the AO champion goat.
It's still good enough because there is nobody to challenge Novak.
And got destroyed by Nadal afterwards.
www.essentiallysports.com
Excuses excuses
Would be nice if this became like a big tennis rivalry. Tsitsipas will do everything to beat Medvedev. 3 years younger.. he got time. Think about the celebration heheNews just in, news just in
Reacting to Tsitsipas’ Daniil Medvedev said in an interview on Tuesday: “Every player can tell some digs about another. But I’m not taking Tsitsipas seriously anymore. Especially after his words about the Laver Cup celebration. He said ‘they forced him to drink alcohol. It’s OK. But he also said: Mom, it was disgustingly. I can show the video’.”
Daniil Medvedev also revealed that he and Tsitsipas are not friends. “He said my game is boring? For real? Well, I’m not going to argue with him. Everybody has their own style. If someone thinks it’s boring – it’s okay, not a big deal. We are definitely not friends, nor are we enemies. We are colleagues, that’s it,” Medvedev added.
Daniil Medvedev has withdrawn from his home tournament, the Moscow River Cup 2019 as he is tired after playing some intense tennis in the past 11 weeks, reaching six straight finals including the US Open 2019 and claiming two Masters 1000 title. He is now scheduled to compete at the Rolex Paris Masters 2019, later this month.
"I'm Not Taking Tsitsipas Seriously Anymore": Daniil Medvedev
Daniil Medvedev says that he does not take Stefanos Tsitsipas seriously anymore after his comments about the Laver Cup 2019 celebrations.
Pretty much this thread in a nutshell anyway.
I meant the previous year of 2018 since I talked about that year in the sentence before...
It's no secret that most young players are very weak. However, the big 3 are also not that bad, even if they are long past their primes. Sometimes they are still very hard to beat.
So, you liked to play against him when you did it?
Djoker is still a whiner. French Open? Rafa, Thiem, and Fed never complained.
Whats wrong with that? He is only a human being just like you and me. You whine about things too.
Yes I do. Did I say it was a bad thing? Just stated what it was. Variety is good. All types of personalities is good for the game.
It means a lot to Tsitsipas. He really hates losing! Going to make him win slams. He got the right mentality.
Will he win a slam in the next year or two? I think one of him or Zverev will break out next year like Med Bear.
I hope he stays injury free and continue to evolve. He has evolved a lot in 1,5 years, quick. He isnt even close to his peak.
Yes, I don't know much about him, so my opinion may change, and it's not important any way, but by saying he got bored playing someone who beat him he certainly did not impress me, for what it's worth. I take it you are a potential future fan?
What impresses you? Fakeness? Arent you tired of PC Fedal? You can see sometimes their real self (that they are humans) coming through... I like it. Every human on this planet got those features, its just that we pretend we dont have them and think we are better than anyone else. What tsitsipas said was not bad, he didnt insult. He was hurt from losing and he doesnt like to play Medvedev. Medvedev hasnt been popular guy until recently, his act during the years been quite provocative. It was during USO he learned he should keep it together to be more popular, cause he wants popularity.
I don't see it the way you do. The Big 3 by in large have represented themselves and tennis quite well. I don't want to see controversy. I'm quite happy with the people who don't say much but just talk with their rackets, and among those I would pick Laver and Rosewall, Edberg, Sampras and others who did not win as much.
You may be projecting your own personality. In my field I'm very good, and people who know me say that. But under no circumstances do I feel that I am superior to other people who are top notch.
He's young. I've said many times that I was a worse sport as a young person than any of the top guys. In another few years he'll be a different person, especially after the age of 30. That doesn't change the fact that some of the things he says now are rather immature. At his age I was saying a lot of cringe-worthy things and in fact if I had to go back in time and deal with my 20-something self, I'd probably be totally disgusted. I had a lot of friends who were a lot more mature.
I like Novak much better today, but I liked the player he was early on better because he was more dynamic and exciting to watch. As for being fine with not being popular, I don't see that with Novak at all. I just see a guy who has to live with not being hugely loved, whether it is justified or not.
Ewwww. Please.
Looks good though.
It is very well known though that Super Saturday affected Sampras' level in those two USO finals. I believe in both tournaments, he happened to beat Hewitt and Safin when he met them before the finals. I mean, all this is said by Sampras fans often times when it suits them, so that's how I know. Anyhow, even in the weak 2002 field, Hewitt only won one other slam and Safin remained mercurial to the end. There IS considerable mythologisation of their achievements. They were both really good players with heart but beating an aging Sampras and intermittent Agassi does not compare to facing THREE Tier 1 greats still playing well enough to win slams. Don't kid yourself, the Big Three are still playing really well and their appetite to fix kinks in their game is enormous. Whether or not the younger generation is inept, the challenge they face is tougher than overcoming Sampras. This isn't even slightly controversial.
I hope that his 1HBH won't prove to be a liability in the modern game.
LOL, ""Just get the 1st set from him and I should be ok" ??? what kind of strategy is thatA little salty, eh Stefanos?
On Saturday, Stefanos Tsitsipas encountered his fifth straight defeat at the hands of Daniil Medvedev at Rolex Shanghai Masters 2019. After his back-to-back defeat against the Russian machine, Tsitsipas termed the matches against Medvedev as “boring” and was annoyed after his loss.
“Well, I don’t mean to be rude at all, actually, at all, but it’s just boring. It’s boring. It’s so boring that — I don’t know,” he said. “I hate myself, first of all, for putting myself into that kind of situation where I have to play in his own terms and not on my terms. And that’s kind of, I don’t know, reminding me of my childhood years when I was 12 years old playing inside the court,” the Greek lad continued.
Despite is shabby head-2-head record against the 23-year-old Russian, Stefanos Tsitsipas is confident about overcoming the machine, Medvedev. He believes that the chances of defeating Medvedev are more when his get opponent gets hold of the opening set.
“It was very close, and then — I don’t know. Just second serve was a bit, you know — I think once I get the first set from him, chances of beating him are getting higher because he will just keep doing the same thing. He won’t change really much. For me, in order to beat him, I just need to get the first set. That’s it,” Stefanos Tsitsipas explained.
On Saturday, World Number seven, Tsitsipas flawed a forehand at 5-all in the season set, he regretted his mistake at that instant and later reflected upon the places where he needs to work upon. “I should concentrate less on the technical side and leave that on the side during the match and be aware more of what’s in front of me and not think technically too much,” Tsitsipas added.
The Greek typhoon of tennis, Stefanos Tsitsipas dethroned the defending champion and the top-seed, Novak Djokovic in the quarterfinals of Rolex Shanghai Masters 2019. Now, he holds a positive head-2-head record against the Serbian legend.
“I don’t know if I’m going to be able to beat him the next time or the time after that one, but I know there’s going to be a time where I’m going to find opportunities and beat him,” Tsitsipas said. “Probably two, three, four, five, six years’ time, I don’t know, but it’s going to come at some point. The chance of opportunity will be somewhere there. As you saw today, it was very close in a tiebreak,” he added.
Source: https://www.essentiallysports.com/i...sitsipas-comments-on-playing-daniil-medvedev/
Honestly, I don't think it will be. He defends very well off that side from what I've seen. I've been impressed by that anyway.... Would probably need to look at his game through a magnifying glass to get a better idea (I don't watch his matches that closely normally), but from what I've seen he does surprisingly well with his backhand vs opponent forehand.
What I do find slightly controversial is assuming that these young players are some Fed level talents who are not winning because of the Big 3, which in itself is erroneous anyway. Fed was always better than the Next Gen and it's wrong to assume that he would have been as inept as the young ones today.
And besides, didn't he beat Hewitt and Safin in straights in those semis? I could understand Super Saturday affecting him if those matches were long epic matches, but it wasn't the case. So I don't really buy the Super Saturday argument.
Yes, it was straight sets but he was always frail after getting thallasemia minor. That's why he chip charged to death in the late 90s.
I don't see anyone saying they are Fed level talents. Only that Fed wasn't exactly a shining beacon yet at the age they are now and that it's too early to write them off. Both entirely reasonable propositions.
Do you remember how Federer was? So far Tsitsipas has had better behaviour than Federer had. Yes its being immature, but it is a killer instinct and they hate to lose so much. The way they sometimes snap is probably just a small part of what they actually feel, its so much more, cause they do try to keep it together as we all do. To say the brutal truth: They probably cry at home sometimes after losses. Thats the difference between we sitting here online and they being out there on court working hard. They hate losing intensely. Just that itself, is pretty immature. Why they have to win? Why do they have to do all this big stuff in their life to prove to themselves they are worthy? Its giving us entertainment, thats for sure. Its giving us many things in life, from people w this drive. But its a nightmare being w them in the private sphere, as they are egoistic and immature, they arent spiritually developed or having peace w themselves.
That's ok and all, but when I did say that Fed won Wimb at 21 years and 11 months, the first reply was "3 GOATS". That pretty much implies what I said.
It's time to stop sugarcoating their performances.
