Tsitsipas needs to do something

kangaroo1973

Semi-Pro
If Tsitsipas wants to enjoy deep runs at slams in the future, he ought to do something about it.
First fix that awful return of his, second fix backhand, third hire a good coach- Norman, Edberg, Annacone, Gilbert come to mind.
His last GS results are really bad.
4R
QF
2R
1R
1R - at his most successful slam. That is very concerning.
And one last thing, all credit to Michelsen, that return game in the 9th game of the second set? That was something. Maybe kid has a very bright future inside top 10 after all.
 
There’s nothing he can do; in tennis, when the freefall happens, unless you are one of the handful of greatest players ever with 99.99 percentile talent, it’s over for you, e.g., Agassi, Federer after injury, etc.

What’s absolutely amazing is that the bookmaker had Alex at only a -150 payment after the third set knowing what they have seen from the Greek philosopher this past year and how Alex absolutely destroyed on the last time they played. That might be the most free money that’s ever been.
 

kangaroo1973

Semi-Pro
There’s nothing he can do; in tennis, when the freefall happens, unless you are one of the handful of greatest players ever with 99.99 percentile talent, it’s over for you, e.g., Agassi, Federer after injury, etc.

What’s absolutely amazing is that the bookmaker had Alex at only a -150 payment after the third set knowing what they have seen from the Greek philosopher this past year and how Alex absolutely destroyed on the last time they played. That might be the most free money that’s ever been.
What is -150? In Europe we have odds like 1.75 2.0 2.25 etc
 

roysid

Legend
If Tsitsipas wants to enjoy deep runs at slams in the future, he ought to do something about it.
First fix that awful return of his, second fix backhand, third hire a good coach- Norman, Edberg, Annacone, Gilbert come to mind.
His last GS results are really bad.
4R
QF
2R
1R
1R - at his most successful slam. That is very concerning.
And one last thing, all credit to Michelsen, that return game in the 9th game of the second set? That was something. Maybe kid has a very bright future inside top 10 after all.
I saw the 4th set. Michelsen can blast off return winners. That really put Tipsy off.
Don't think that will happen at every match
 

McGradey

Hall of Fame
Left it too late I fear. Mummy and daddy suffocated his career in his prime years and contributed to the now seemingly inescapable stagnation. If you look at his game, and particularly, his weaknesses, now vs. 6 or 7 years ago, you will see the same things cropping up — and even regressing in some areas.

He needed to do a hard reset on the backhand, return and slice like 5 years ago.
 

Robert F

Hall of Fame
Tennis at the top is such a tough sport.
This might just be the best he can be. Not sure any changes will really make big changes.

We've been so fortunate with the Big 3 and now Sinner/Alcaraz, that it just seems guys can keep getting better as the game evovles, some just can't.
I think Tsitsi fits that bill. So does Kyrgios. They did the best they can with what they got--and from an outsiders view they have made it very deep in a highly competitive sport. Not many have, just all that much harder to get further along.
 

TennisBro

Hall of Fame

Tsitsipas needs to do something​

The moment he picked on his dad, he chose his dark pathway. He thought he learnt to deal with his job and his mental preparedness but he didn't. Tsitsipass's father isn't Rune's mother. So, what Stefanos must do is to fix the bridges in between his dad and him in order to function well prepared for his important matches.
 

Shaolin

Talk Tennis Guru
If Tsitsipas wants to enjoy deep runs at slams in the future, he ought to do something about it.
First fix that awful return of his, second fix backhand, third hire a good coach- Norman, Edberg, Annacone, Gilbert come to mind.
His last GS results are really bad.
4R
QF
2R
1R
1R - at his most successful slam. That is very concerning.
And one last thing, all credit to Michelsen, that return game in the 9th game of the second set? That was something. Maybe kid has a very bright future inside top 10 after all.

Hiring Norman would be a great choice.

If he can pry him away from Wawrinka. Strangely he seems committed to Stan until he’s in a senior living facility.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Gonna have to disagree there. Tsitsipas has the much better serve and FH, and better footwork and mental strength. Shapo has raw athleticism and shotmaking, that's about it.

Right now Shapo is still in the draw lol

I disagree that TPas has a better serve and FH. Shapo just misfires bc he hasn't been as disciplined. But the mechanics and easy power are superior. TPas' game is very tightly wound like his persona. Shapo has looked like Fed out there for the last month or so
 

kishnabe

Talk Tennis Guru
He needs to sack dad, and relegate him to Parent status instead of Coach.
 
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Aabye5

G.O.A.T.

Tsitsipas needs to do something​

The moment he picked on his dad, he chose his dark pathway. He thought he learnt to deal with his job and his mental preparedness but he didn't. Tsitsipass's father isn't Rune's mother. So, what Stefanos must do is to fix the bridges in between his dad and him in order to function well prepared for his important matches.

In both cases, there seems to be a lot of frustration when things go sideways.
 

Subway Tennis

G.O.A.T.
I haven’t been able to watch any matches today.

How was the level in the Michaelsen vs GOATsipas upset?

Was it Michaelsen playing up, GOATsipas playing down, or a mixture of both?
 
Left it too late I fear. Mummy and daddy suffocated his career in his prime years and contributed to the now seemingly inescapable stagnation. If you look at his game, and particularly, his weaknesses, now vs. 6 or 7 years ago, you will see the same things cropping up — and even regressing in some areas.

He needed to do a hard reset on the backhand, return and slice like 5 years ago.
Maybe, but mommy and daddy are the only reason why he is where he is today and is a millionaire athlete.
 

Fabresque

Legend
Gonna have to disagree there. Tsitsipas has the much better serve and FH, and better footwork and mental strength. Shapo has raw athleticism and shotmaking, that's about it.
Shapo had more potential and his flaws anre easier to iron out. His backhand is better. His forehand is still potent as an attacking shot. Serve can still develop. Both have questionable mental strength.

Tpas backhand looks like a helpless situation. He can still dominate with serve and forehand combos. At this point he should just invest everything into building a killer slice to cover up the weakness. It won’t stop opponents from targeting it but it could open up some more options for him defensively.
 

aus89

Hall of Fame
Hiring Norman would be a great choice.

If he can pry him away from Wawrinka. Strangely he seems committed to Stan until he’s in a senior living facility.
Norman mainly runs his academy in Sweden and has a young family etc..., and he travels with Stan for major tournaments etc but not full time, I think he might be done with full time coaching on the tour - he's pretty selective with who he coaches and I don't see him really being willing to or be interested in dealing with Tsitsipas and his drama, much like Ferrero wasn't interested in putting up with Zverev.
 

Winner Sinner

Hall of Fame
If Tsitsipas wants to enjoy deep runs at slams in the future, he ought to do something about it.
First fix that awful return of his, second fix backhand, third hire a good coach- Norman, Edberg, Annacone, Gilbert come to mind.
His last GS results are really bad.
4R
QF
2R
1R
1R - at his most successful slam. That is very concerning.
And one last thing, all credit to Michelsen, that return game in the 9th game of the second set? That was something. Maybe kid has a very bright future inside top 10 after all.
Easier said than done.
Those are chronic problems for him.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
At this point I think it’s over for stef at the top of the game, sad as it makes me. He has lost the ability to impose his game onto his opponent consistently it feels like.

That said there’s some serious shapovalov glazing in this thread.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
And Uncle Toni was a big part of Rafa's success as well, but a change doesn't always hurt.
Nadal stagnated from 2014 with Toni until Moya joined his bench at the end of 2016.
They were lost seasons for the Spanish left-hander.
:(
 

kangaroo1973

Semi-Pro
Nadal stagnated from 2014 with Toni until Moya joined his bench at the end of 2016.
They were lost seasons for the Spanish left-hander.
:(
Well Toni Nadal has never been a good coach to begin with. He just got his hands on a freak of nature, someone exceptional. Auger has regressed under his guidance
 

Rovesciarete

Hall of Fame
Feels like the whole tour has become aware that his backhand can break down and is targeting it mercilessly. Only on slowish clay can he protect it to a very large extent by running around it.

Michelsen can resist the inside-out and threaten down-the-line...
 
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