Tsitsipas Racket

Haasquet

Rookie
Blash or Clade PJ?
If we're voting for one of these two options to replace 'Blade', I'm voting for Blash.

"Stop trying to make Blash happen. It's not gonna happen."

Eff that... it's happening. I kind of like the Blash pj, but it probably looks much nicer in the gloss than what will eventually hit the market...
 

hurworld

Hall of Fame
If we're voting for one of these two options to replace 'Blade', I'm voting for Blash.

"Stop trying to make Blash happen. It's not gonna happen."

Eff that... it's happening. I kind of like the Blash pj, but it probably looks much nicer in the gloss than what will eventually hit the market...
Good stuff. From here on when the next two lines get refreshed:
- Ultrash or Clultra?
- Pro Stash or Clo Staff?
 

SeeItHitIt

Semi-Pro
Ful bed of 4G at 55/53lb, played day in day out.. professional player or not, I have no idea how a wrist/arm can stand up to that lol. I'd love to know what sort of wrist exercises and conditioning these guys do.
The faster you swing it the softer the string ‘seems’!
 

Mike Lambresi

New User
Ah I see. I went back and clicked on the link and read the article. This picture is from the there.



So the link basically says he has:

Unstrung swingweight of 308
Strung swingweight of 343

In my 97 sq. inch 18x20 racquet, adding 17 gauge poly strings adds roughly 30-31 points and 16.5g to 17g weight. But Tsitsipas uses 16L gauge (Luxilon 4G) strings in his 98 sq inch 18x20 (18.4 grams). That is a heavier poly even in thinner gauges, in my experience. After stringing up, I am sure 35 point swingweight difference is not out of the realm of possibility here, no?
If the full bed of 4G weights as you said 18.4, it makes sense the SW would fall around 340.

Here's the calculations.

 

CiscoPC600

Professional
Yeah, i have thought the same. Must feel crazy boardy to us normals
I wonder if he was just experimenting that tournament. Because on twitter he’s stated his tension is 55/52lbs (25/24kgs).


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Mike Lambresi

New User
I wonder if he was just experimenting that tournament. Because on twitter he’s stated his tension is 55/52lbs (25/24kgs).


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I wouldn't be surprised if he had raised his tension, as he's been hitting harder these days.

Federer uses higher tension than that but he uses gut as well and an open pattern.
But 57lbs on a 18x20, in a control racquet like the Blade and especially with a full bed of a stiff poly like 4G, must be like hitting a frying pan.

Pretty crazy how much spin he can still generate with this setup.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
I wouldn't be surprised if he had raised his tension, as he's been hitting harder these days.

Federer uses higher tension than that but he uses gut as well and an open pattern.
But 57lbs on a 18x20, in a control racquet like the Blade and especially with a full bed of a stiff poly like 4G, must be like hitting a frying pan.

Pretty crazy how much spin he can still generate with this setup.
Could have been the location too. I know they raise/lower tension based on location or else elevation.


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ron schaap

Professional
I wouldn't be surprised if he had raised his tension, as he's been hitting harder these days.

Federer uses higher tension than that but he uses gut as well and an open pattern.
But 57lbs on a 18x20, in a control racquet like the Blade and especially with a full bed of a stiff poly like 4G, must be like hitting a frying pan.

Pretty crazy how much spin he can still generate with this setup.
Maybe he uses. 4g soft? :unsure:
 

Alexh22

Rookie
I knew him as a junior when he was always hitting at Glyfada, he loved and raved about his 2013 blade and hated the 2015 muted feel when he tried it. Wilson then supplied him with the 2013 blade with 2015 paint job and he was happy again. Wilson just kept on updating the paint job on old frame layup for all new models ever since.
Thanks for the info. His racquet doesn’t look like a h22.
 

J B

Semi-Pro
I wouldn't be surprised if he had raised his tension, as he's been hitting harder these days.

Federer uses higher tension than that but he uses gut as well and an open pattern.
But 57lbs on a 18x20, in a control racquet like the Blade and especially with a full bed of a stiff poly like 4G, must be like hitting a frying pan.

Pretty crazy how much spin he can still generate with this setup.
its not that hard to generate spin at high tensions and a 18x20. My Coach is telling me to hit with less spin. Its an old wives tail or bad technique
 

netlets

Semi-Pro
its not that hard to generate spin at high tensions and a 18x20. My Coach is telling me to hit with less spin. Its an old wives tail or bad technique
Bad technique and hitting with more or less spin are two different things. To say hitting with too much spin is wrong is simply not true. I’m a certified coach and each player is different and use different grips, etc. Your coach should not be making statements like that - makes me wonder about his qualifications. Also depends on where you are on the court and what ball has been hit to you.
 

J B

Semi-Pro
D1 player and he was right I was ripping everything with massive spin and low so it was diving into the service box. He said change up shot choices, because I hit with so much spin it would be better to change the profile and spin to keep the opponent off balance. My point isn’t to get into a coaching argument.
my point is saying tension and string spacing means no spin or way less is just wrong. It’s fairly easy to rip a shot 8-14 inches over the cord have it land just in the baseline then it kick 5 ft and the only thing stopping it from going higher is the fence. All with a 18x20 at 57/59 tension poly /gut setup
 

Mike Lambresi

New User
D1 player and he was right I was ripping everything with massive spin and low so it was diving into the service box. He said change up shot choices, because I hit with so much spin it would be better to change the profile and spin to keep the opponent off balance. My point isn’t to get into a coaching argument.
my point is saying tension and string spacing means no spin or way less is just wrong. It’s fairly easy to rip a shot 8-14 inches over the cord have it land just in the baseline then it kick 5 ft and the only thing stopping it from going higher is the fence. All with a 18x20 at 57/59 tension poly /gut setup
Congratulations on your monstrous spin.
You're missing the point. Tsisipas has some of the biggest spinning rates stats, around 40's on the backhand and 50's on the forehand. The fact that his racquet and setup is not the most spin friendly only makes his topspin rates more impressive.
I'm not saying it's impossible to generate spin at all, I'm saying open patterns, looser tensions and head light sticks are much easier to generate high spin rates, and his Blade is the opposite of that. Switching between my PS97 and my 18x20 Blade the spin difference is very substantial.

Also, if your balls are falling short on the court it doesn't mean you're hitting with "too much spin", it only means either you're not hitting hard/deep enough or maybe you should aim higher.
If that was the case Nadal's forehands wouldn't reach the net.
 

J B

Semi-Pro
no You don’t get it do you. I was hitting too low and with too much spin. The point is you can hit with tons of spin and use an 18x20 and be a club player. But you are a coach therefore know it all

edit: of course it will be easier. Even easier with a 135 so why don’t your switch to that? I love people with 50 different sticks then acting like they know how the pros do it. No you are just a stat monkey that things you are a subject matter expert because you bought something and wrote a review

only a total fool would say 16x19 means tons more spin the playsite testing proves that wrong. The angle is lower but the rpm is the same or higher. but you go coach. You do you. You keep telling BS like so many coaches do. But before you look more like a fool call Tw and ask them about the spin tests I love watching people walk into these arguments completely clueless.
I think some 9 year olds wanna bang some balls around why don’t you stick to that
 

TennisD

Semi-Pro
I'm not saying it's impossible to generate spin at all, I'm saying open patterns, looser tensions and head light sticks are much easier to generate high spin rates, and his Blade is the opposite of that. Switching between my PS97 and my 18x20 Blade the spin difference is very substantial.
I think there's a difference to be considered between (even high-end) rec players and top pros - for most guys at that they're so dialed in technically/in terms of feel that the higher 'potential' of a more open frame just won't mesh with the feel/angle/etc... they're looking for off the stringbed. Obviously some players change patterns but there's a reason most don't.
 

megamind

Hall of Fame
D1 player and he was right I was ripping everything with massive spin and low so it was diving into the service box. He said change up shot choices, because I hit with so much spin it would be better to change the profile and spin to keep the opponent off balance. My point isn’t to get into a coaching argument.
my point is saying tension and string spacing means no spin or way less is just wrong. It’s fairly easy to rip a shot 8-14 inches over the cord have it land just in the baseline then it kick 5 ft and the only thing stopping it from going higher is the fence. All with a 18x20 at 57/59 tension poly /gut setup
agreed, i can even generate more spin on some 18x20 racquets, than some 16x19s

not saying that's a general rule, just that it is def possible
 
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Alexh22

Rookie
I think we should not isolate any single factor because it is very dependent on technique and racquet material. A guy at my club hits crazy spin with his 18 20 yet he gets less spin from my 16 19.
 
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polksio

New User
I think the exact mold of his blade is less important than the weight of his racquets. Appearantly ONLY 315gr unstrung. Contracting many advocates who state that only with heavy -swing-weight racquets a pro is able to be succesfull on the ATP tour.
I believe "unstrung" here really means "from the factory" so you gotta add string and lead
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
He uses a 2013 18x20 blade that weighs 320 grams (including overgrip) prior to stringing. Message me if you are interested in a 2013 blade.
 

Alexh22

Rookie
Based on the photos of his junior years. I think the last blade he used before turning pro was the 2015 black n green blade. Wilson be giving him pjs after that.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
Based on the photos of his junior years. I think the last blade he used before turning pro was the 2015 black n green blade. Wilson be giving him pjs after that.
Some dude from his hometown club said he was using 2013, based on how he worded it, it seemed legit. Plus, there are photos of him using the 2013 blade.
 

Alexh22

Rookie
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I did also notice that post. Hard to believe he uses the ampfeel stuff in the handle.
more importantly look at the pics here . are you guys sure these are not parallel drilling ? ?!?!?
Why is it hard to believe he uses a racquet with amplifeel? Also that racquet in the pics doesn’t have parallel drilling.

At this point it’s fairly obvious he uses a 2013 Blade. Until someone on here gets one of his frames or he makes an obvious switch I don’t think there’s much potential for further discussion.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
Why is it hard to believe he uses a racquet with amplifeel? Also that racquet in the pics doesn’t have parallel drilling.

At this point it’s fairly obvious he uses a 2013 Blade. Until someone on here gets one of his frames or he makes an obvious switch I don’t think there’s much potential for further discussion.
Dumb question: how can one easily spot parallel drilling vs non-parallel drilling? I know the new V7 has it but from a quick glance couldn't tell. Grommets?
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Dumb question: how can one easily spot parallel drilling vs non-parallel drilling? I know the new V7 has it but from a quick glance couldn't tell. Grommets?
Right, the top eight grommets go in straight down. They don't tilt with the hoop. Started with the 15 version. Supposed to reduce friction a little.
 
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