Tsitsipas Racket

J B

Semi-Pro
Hey, have you guys even noticed Wilson doesn’t even try with the PJ? It’s usually a glossy black which clearly isn’t the velvet matte. I mean if you are gonna fake it at least put in the effort
 
Hey, have you guys even noticed Wilson doesn’t even try with the PJ? It’s usually a glossy black which clearly isn’t the velvet matte. I mean if you are gonna fake it at least put in the effort
The gloss pops much better on TV which might play a factor. As gutfeeling said most people don’t even recognize the difference and or don’t care.

The velvet paint in general is just horrible to feel and touch imo. Really stupid marketing.
 

McLovin

Legend
I don't think a racket is purpose built for any particular mechanics; i.e. one-handed or two-handed backhand.
While I agree, I can't help but sometimes wonder 'WTF were they thinking?' when looking at the length of the grips on some of the handles. For example, the ProStaff 95S they had a few years back. It did not even come close to accommodating a 2-handed backhand. I swear the top of my 2nd hand was practically on the opening of the throat.
 

Geoff

Hall of Fame
While I agree, I can't help but sometimes wonder 'WTF were they thinking?' when looking at the length of the grips on some of the handles. For example, the ProStaff 95S they had a few years back. It did not even come close to accommodating a 2-handed backhand. I swear the top of my 2nd hand was practically on the opening of the throat.
The pallets for the new Blades (v7) are intentional to be more comfortable for a 2 handed stroke. There is a slight change at the top of the pallet. Not sure if this has been mentioned earlier or not.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
While I agree, I can't help but sometimes wonder 'WTF were they thinking?' when looking at the length of the grips on some of the handles. For example, the ProStaff 95S they had a few years back. It did not even come close to accommodating a 2-handed backhand. I swear the top of my 2nd hand was practically on the opening of the throat.
to tell you the truth, I wish they would make grips shorter. I'd love the look of the older frames when shafts were actually part of the frame and it didn't go from throat to grip. :)

The pallets for the new Blades (v7) are intentional to be more comfortable for a 2 handed stroke. There is a slight change at the top of the pallet. Not sure if this has been mentioned earlier or not.
I stand corrected! Now that you mention it, I do remember a Wilson recently made that had some kind of modification to the upper grip portion or whatever to facilitate a two-handed grip. I think it now discontinued.
 

Geoff

Hall of Fame
@Geoff do you have additional info on the new pallet design? Pallets are definitely shorter than the v6 CV model. Is it a different shape/less taper?
From the TW product description page of the v7 Blade
"For this generation, Wilson adds a longer grip taper to the handle, resulting in easier hand positioning for players with two-handed backhands."
 

haqq777

Legend
Now that you mention it, I do remember a Wilson recently made that had some kind of modification to the upper grip portion or whatever to facilitate a two-handed grip. I think it now discontinued.
If I am not mistaken, you are referring to Wilson's X2 Shaft technology used on the Burn line. I have a couple of Burn 95 and 100s that have it (not much use for me since I have a 1HBH).

From Wilson:

X2 Shaft offers a longer handle to give two-handed backhands better feel and leverage. Also features a narrower shaft for quicker grip changes.

Blade V7 has probably the same thing just renamed.
 
Congratulations on your monstrous spin.
You're missing the point. Tsisipas has some of the biggest spinning rates stats, around 40's on the backhand and 50's on the forehand. The fact that his racquet and setup is not the most spin friendly only makes his topspin rates more impressive.
I'm not saying it's impossible to generate spin at all, I'm saying open patterns, looser tensions and head light sticks are much easier to generate high spin rates, and his Blade is the opposite of that. Switching between my PS97 and my 18x20 Blade the spin difference is very substantial.

Also, if your balls are falling short on the court it doesn't mean you're hitting with "too much spin", it only means either you're not hitting hard/deep enough or maybe you should aim higher.
If that was the case Nadal's forehands wouldn't reach the net.
Not necessarily. 18x20 plus stiff strings means more control, so you can swing out. And when you swing out, you put work on the ball.
 
The gloss pops much better on TV which might play a factor. As gutfeeling said most people don’t even recognize the difference and or don’t care.

The velvet paint in general is just horrible to feel and touch imo. Really stupid marketing.
I think is very noticeable visually.
Doesn't the RF97 have velvet paint?
I have 2 PS97 one gloss one matte. Besides the newer being stiffer, it feels softer.
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
I know back in the first page of this thread it was shown his unstrung balance was 32cm(7HL). Do we have any guesstimate of what the balance would be once strung?
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
Ah I see. I went back and clicked on the link and read the article. This picture is from the there.



So the link basically says he has:

Unstrung swingweight of 308
Strung swingweight of 343

In my 97 sq. inch 18x20 racquet, adding 17 gauge poly strings adds roughly 30-31 points and 16.5g to 17g weight. But Tsitsipas uses 16L gauge (Luxilon 4G) strings in his 98 sq inch 18x20 (18.4 grams). That is a heavier poly even in thinner gauges, in my experience. After stringing up, I am sure 35 point swingweight difference is not out of the realm of possibility here, no?
Not sure if this image is accurate at all, but I had my local pro shop put 10g of silicone in the handle. My SW is 336 now. Balance is 31.5-32 cm (I was in a hurry and couldn't get the exact measurement).

Silicone DOES make a difference. I'm very happy with the reduced shock from mishits and the overall more muted feel. Before you could really hear how hollow this frame felt, compared to my VCORE which always sounded more muffled, but now it's more quiet. I still am not a huge fan of the 4G soft, so I can't wait to snap it or wear it out more to put in my string of choice. Obviously Tsitsipas has a different set up but it's fun playing with something close to his.
 

Alexh22

Professional
Not sure if this image is accurate at all, but I had my local pro shop put 10g of silicone in the handle. My SW is 336 now. Balance is 31.5-32 cm (I was in a hurry and couldn't get the exact measurement).

Silicone DOES make a difference. I'm very happy with the reduced shock from mishits and the overall more muted feel. Before you could really hear how hollow this frame felt, compared to my VCORE which always sounded more muffled, but now it's more quiet. I still am not a huge fan of the 4G soft, so I can't wait to snap it or wear it out more to put in my string of choice. Obviously Tsitsipas has a different set up but it's fun playing with something close to his.
How did you stop the silicone from dripping all the way down into the shaft ?
 

CiscoPC600

Professional
How did you stop the silicone from dripping all the way down into the shaft ?
I placed one cotton ball on each side of the handle before inserting silicone just be safe. It's a practice shown on some Youtube videos. It might not be needed but figured I'd be certain as this Blade was rare in that I bought it from a pro shop that went out of business and it was brand spanking new.
 

polksio

Rookie
Not sure if this image is accurate at all, but I had my local pro shop put 10g of silicone in the handle. My SW is 336 now. Balance is 31.5-32 cm (I was in a hurry and couldn't get the exact measurement).

Silicone DOES make a difference. I'm very happy with the reduced shock from mishits and the overall more muted feel. Before you could really hear how hollow this frame felt, compared to my VCORE which always sounded more muffled, but now it's more quiet. I still am not a huge fan of the 4G soft, so I can't wait to snap it or wear it out more to put in my string of choice. Obviously Tsitsipas has a different set up but it's fun playing with something close to his.
Do you have a 2013 kblade you put 10g of silicone into its handle?
 
325 strung? Isn't that just stock? I thought he had 10g of resin in the handle.
A blade stock strung with an overgrip should weight around 328g.
Pro racquets don’t have metal shanks in the foam handle like retail. The same static as retail can have vastly different other specs.


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Trung Nghia

New User
Pro racquets don’t have metal shanks in the foam handle like retail. The same static as retail can have vastly different other specs.


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Maybe have or maybe not. When I shaved my H25 handle there is a little metal weight about 10gr near the throat position.
My friend shaved the H22, they also have metal but near the buttcap.


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blablavla

Legend
How did you stop the silicone from dripping all the way down into the shaft ?
hi @Alexh22 can you help me?
where can I buy the same racket as Tsitsipas is using?
if I purchase the same PJ job, will it have same parameters: flex, mold, pattern, lay-up, head size, SW, static weight, balance?
 

esm

Hall of Fame
i read that Tsitsipas "still" uses 2013 Blade 98.... or has he moved to one of the Wilson racquets that was never available off the shelf to the general public?
8-B
 
Maybe have or maybe not. When I shaved my H25 handle there is a little metal weight about 10gr near the throat position.
My friend shaved the H22, they also have metal but near the buttcap.


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You are talking about Head...
Definitely Head, they have the best feeling pro stocks IMO.

That’s really helpful to know about Wilson, thanks for telling me something I didn’t know! It could explain why I’ve always found Head pro stocks to have a better feel. From my extremely limited experience with Wilson pro stocks I was under the impression that they used some lead for matching hairpins and then added weight by using a much higher density foam than retail to mold the handle.
 

polksio

Rookie
hi @Alexh22 can you help me?
where can I buy the same racket as Tsitsipas is using?
if I purchase the same PJ job, will it have same parameters: flex, mold, pattern, lay-up, head size, SW, static weight, balance?
Mold pattern headsize layup RA yes
Sw weight balance No youll have to customize it yourself or have someone (pay?) do it. Also id recommend buying the lightest and the most head heavy but still lower than 343 kg/cm2 sw blades you can find , thatll give you the best chancesof being able to reach his specs if thats what you want
 

3virgul14

Rookie
Mold pattern headsize layup RA yes
Sw weight balance No youll have to customize it yourself or have someone (pay?) do it. Also id recommend buying the lightest and the most head heavy but still lower than 343 kg/cm2 sw blades you can find , thatll give you the best chancesof being able to reach his specs if thats what you want
hi @Alexh22 can you help me?
where can I buy the same racket as Tsitsipas is using?
if I purchase the same PJ job, will it have same parameters: flex, mold, pattern, lay-up, head size, SW, static weight, balance?
Hi @blablavla

There are some prostock Blades in the 'market', those are V6 pj and quite affordable wih a Kblade underneath, very light weight and high SW.

I snapped them almost for the price of retail ones. These were unstrung 304gr with basegrip and silicone in the handle and lead under grommets so precisely prepared for an Italian Atp player.
They hit so easy with authority Crazy

 

Alexh22

Professional
Hi @blablavla

There are some prostock Blades in the 'market', those are V6 pj and quite affordable wih a Kblade underneath, very light weight and high SW.

I snapped them almost for the price of retail ones. These were unstrung 304gr with basegrip and silicone in the handle and lead under grommets so precisely prepared for an Italian Atp player.
They hit so easy with authority Crazy

How can you tell they are kblades? Special bumper guard ? Or is it it’s stiffness. Raonic uses a kblade right ?
 

polksio

Rookie
Lucky you, Kblades have crazy low twistweight according to the TW that might explain the ease of swing, high sw could explain the maintained plow through.

Personally went the babolat pure storm ltd way, 19mm straight 59RA crazy low TW 10 and SW 300 and headlight balance, very nice platform racket too
 

3virgul14

Rookie
How can you tell they are kblades? Special bumper guard ? Or is it it’s stiffness. Raonic uses a kblade right ?
It was told to me by the 'player's tech guy, and I actually played a h22 and all the other blades from 2015, these play stiffer but still comfortable.

Raonic, Goffin, Tsitsipas and some other lower ranked guys use this mold under newer pj's apparently.

I can see why, its by far the easiest stick I used.


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blablavla

Legend
Hi @blablavla

There are some prostock Blades in the 'market', those are V6 pj and quite affordable wih a Kblade underneath, very light weight and high SW.

I snapped them almost for the price of retail ones. These were unstrung 304gr with basegrip and silicone in the handle and lead under grommets so precisely prepared for an Italian Atp player.
They hit so easy with authority Crazy

I am not interested in prostock.
I am interested in buying the same racket from an honest manufacturer who doesn't sell me garbage painted as a racket used by top pros.
cause this is the point where @Alexh22 cries and rants about some other manufacturer.
 
Why would his rackets be sent to him strung with some white string? Does Wilson customize with lead under the bumper and then immediately string them?
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
He just posted a pic of some 30 or so racquets on his instagram story. Same pj, but with gold accents instead of the green stripes
Why would his rackets be sent to him strung with some white string? Does Wilson customize with lead under the bumper and then immediately string them?
The gold accents might have been the lighting and filter used. Can't say for sure.
To me, it looked like brand new retail rackets that he was going to possibly autograph for Wilson. I don't see the pic anymore, but if I remember correctly, some of the rackets had the retail racket cardboard in it.
 

ron schaap

Hall of Fame
:laughing:
It was told to me by the 'player's tech guy, and I actually played a h22 and all the other blades from 2015, these play stiffer but still comfortable.

Raonic, Goffin, Tsitsipas and some other lower ranked guys use this mold under newer pj's apparently.

I can see why, its by far the easiest stick I used.

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It isnt sure whkch blade Goffin uses. Might even be an older blade or a newer blx blade. I do find it fascinating these high ranked players dont use exotic pro stock h22 but old of the shelf racquets.
 
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