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Tsonga: Local hero Murray will have an added pressure at his home Grand Slam

Sadly I am at home in Switzerland now rather than preparing for Wimbledon’s second week but even from this far away I might have a better idea than most of what it feels like to be Andy Murray right now.

I have it in common with Andy that we both come from countries that host Grand Slams, and while there are some big advantages to that it also brings with it a special kind of pressure.

It was only a few weeks ago that I made it to the semi-finals at Roland Garros so it is quite fresh in my mind: everyone wants to talk to you, everyone is desperate for you to do well, you yourself are desperate to succeed.

These are pressures that Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic, for example, have never experienced and while it is definitely great to have the support from the home fans it can bring its challenges too.

I think Andy handles it well and other players in the locker room admire the way he copes, especially as he is the only player from his country at the really top level.

The rest of us also know that you cannot just turn up and expect to win your matches against the players ranked lower than you. The standard of the top 30 is very good right now, so while Murray and Djokovic are favourites to meet in the final — and I think that is what will happen — they cannot relax for a second.

Maybe the thing that separates the top four from other players is that they are able to hold their highest level of play longer than others, and they will both need to do that.

Experience is a massive thing in these situations and that is why I think the biggest single threat to a Djokovic-Murray final might come from Novak’s possible quarter final opponent Tomas Berdych.

Apart from having an incredibly powerful game he knows what it is like to beat the biggest players on the biggest stages, so he is very capable of causing an upset if he makes it to the last eight, and Novak beats Tommy Haas, who has been playing really well. Juan Martin Del Potro is another with that experience, so he would be no easy semi-final opponent either.

Not that Andy has it easy, I have played those who he is most likely to face en route to the final and on their day they are difficult opposition.

Mikhail Youzhny likes the grass and has plenty of weapons to hurt you with. At 31 he knows his chances will not last forever so he will see this as a big opportunity.

I think maybe Andy’s hardest matches would be today and in the semi-finals, but if he was to meet Fernando Verdasco in the quarters he would have to beware his huge lefthanded forehand.

My feeling is that Andy is ready for these challenges. I will wish him the best — and I will have plenty of understanding for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/te...fried-Tsonga--Andy-Murray-added-pressure.html
 
I didn't know Tsonga lives in Switzerland.

Avoiding high French taxes. So much for "home pressure" at the French Open.

Djokovic lives in Monte Carlo and celebrates like there wasn't a greater Serbian alive or dead.
 
Didn't Murray win the Olympics?...

In the UK?....

In front of his fans and supporters?...

amid a lot of pressure and expectations?...

So I don't know what Tsonga is talking about. Perhaps for him yes, since he hasn't won anything worth mentioning.
 
Didn't Murray win the Olympics?...

In the UK?....

In front of his fans and supporters?...

amid a lot of pressure and expectations?...

So I don't know what Tsonga is talking about. Perhaps for him yes, since he hasn't won anything worth mentioning.

Are you dense? Tsonga says Murray handles it exceptionally well.

And you know, Olympics are over. Murray wants to win Wimbledon.
 
A nice reminder from Jo-W just how much more difficult it is for players who have to play at their home Slam. The expectation, the pressure, the hype etc.

Federer, Djokovic and Nadal have never had to feel such pressure. They don't have home Slams. They just compete in other people's.

No French player has made the final of Roland Garros since Henri Leconte in 1988. No Australian player has made the final of the Australian Open since Lleyton Hewitt in 2005. No American player has made the final of the US Open since Andy Roddick in 2006. By contrast, Murray made the final of Wimbledon last year and won an Olympic gold medal there shortly afterwards to boost his confidence at playing there. He is closer than any other player to breaking the home Slam jinx.
 
A nice reminder from Jo-W just how much more difficult it is for players who have to play at their home Slam. The expectation, the pressure, the hype etc.

Federer, Djokovic and Nadal have never had to feel such pressure. They don't have home Slams. They just compete in other people's.

No French player has made the final of Roland Garros since Henri Leconte in 1988. No Australian player has made the final of the Australian Open since Lleyton Hewitt in 2005. No American player has made the final of the US Open since Andy Roddick in 2006. By contrast, Murray made the final of Wimbledon last year and won an Olympic gold medal there shortly afterwards to boost his confidence at playing there. He is closer than any other player to breaking the home Slam jinx.

Couldn't just not being good enough explain it?

Murray lost finals to Federer at the AO as well as the USO. He wasn't just bombing at the Wimbledon and doing well elsewhere (2012 and before).

Roddick wasn't exactly winning slams everywhere except on US soil.

Stosur is the only person who I can say truly may have choked on home soil and then again it's not necessary that was just home pressure. She tends to choke elsewhere too.
 
I don't buy this home pressure crap. At that level you're either mentally strong enough to win or you aren't. The pressure of winning is enough by itself.

The media and fans like to create this hype around 'winning for your country'. These are pro's playing for money, it isn't Davis Cup.
 
lol. Give it a rest Tsonga, even if Serbia, Switzerland, or Spain hosted a grand slam Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal still wouldn't get their behinds handed to them by David Ferrer like he did last month.
 
I don't buy this home pressure crap. At that level you're either mentally strong enough to win or you aren't. The pressure of winning is enough by itself.

The media and fans like to create this hype around 'winning for your country'. These are pro's playing for money, it isn't Davis Cup.

I think the pressure is more about the attention, and how it can be more difficult to remain focused. Laura Robson was saying that her well meaning neighbour kept shoving newspapers featuring her on the front page under her door when she was trying to ignore it, lol.

Regarding the Olympics, there was less pressure on Murray, because the media was distracted by loads of other sports, and there wasn't this sense of "no British man has won it since ....", and the tournament wasn't launched with all of the main stream press asking "Will he do it this time?"

McEnroe was saying the other day that in his time on tour as a player and pundit, he's never seen media pressure on players more intense than on Henman, and now Murray. He thinks we're bonkers.

I do think that Murray is fairly savvy when it comes to humouring the questions, but it's no longer enough to ask him if he thinks he can finally win it, they are now asking him about how he's dealing with the pressure of getting asked if he can win it.
 
I don't buy this home pressure crap. At that level you're either mentally strong enough to win or you aren't. The pressure of winning is enough by itself.

The media and fans like to create this hype around 'winning for your country'. These are pro's playing for money, it isn't Davis Cup.

Agree with you 100%. Every player is out there thinking about himself/herself and their elation/disappointment first.

It's an individual sport and self-belief is what makes it or breaks it. Like I mentioned, when Murray didn't have the self-confidence and the level of sustained excellence required of a best of 5 finals, he lost to Roger at the AO and USO - both away from home and the so called constant media attention.
 
Couldn't just not being good enough explain it?

Murray lost finals to Federer at the AO as well as the USO. He wasn't just bombing at the Wimbledon and doing well elsewhere (2012 and before).

Roddick wasn't exactly winning slams everywhere except on US soil.

Stosur is the only person who I can say truly may have choked on home soil and then again it's not necessary that was just home pressure. She tends to choke elsewhere too.

Roddick may not have been winning slams but was certainly a heavy contender in the U.S and also Wimbledon and Austrailian Open. He had been a Wimbledon Finalist in 04-05, Australian Open Semi Finalist in 03 and 05 (QF 04). He was unfortunate enough to have met the great one on several occasions just as Andy Murray has. Its no wonder he lost those opportunities. Andy Murray is now a very heavy contender at three of four slams.
 
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Avoiding high French taxes. So much for "home pressure" at the French Open.

Djokovic lives in Monte Carlo and celebrates like there wasn't a greater Serbian alive or dead.


Definitely avoiding taxes. Almost every French player lives in Switzerland.
 
The pressure will be ridiculous. All the British celebrities rooting there for him. Sean Connery the biggest fanboy of them all.
 
The pressure will be ridiculous. All the British celebrities rooting there for him. Sean Connery the biggest fanboy of them all.

I think you'll find that Kevin Spacey is the current undisputed holder of that title.
 
Interesting to read the point of view of someone who actually knows what they are talking about! An all too rare occurrence of these forums.
 
Very diplomatic ramblings from Tsonga: Murray doesn't have it easy and Djoko doesn't have it easy either. You don't say :-? The non PC truth is that Berd has a much better record on grass than Dasco and has a history of upsetting big names (unlike Dasco). Janow is a bit of an unknown. Djoko will have a comfy semi if it's Ferrer and a much tougher challenge if it's Delpo. Youzhny was never gonna be any threat for Murray. A bit of trolling from Tsonga there :twisted: (was he trying to rub the British public the right way so as to be liked better there? ;))
 
olympics and wimbledon are not the same
i do think murray has a really good chance this year and he does a good job in handling the pressure, having won the gold and US open.
 
Roddick may not have been winning slams but was certainly a heavy contender in the U.S and also the French and Austrailian Open's. He had been a Wimbledon Finalist in 04-05, Australian Open Semi Finalist in 03 and 05 (QF 04). He was unfortunate enough to have met the great one on several occasions just as Andy Murray has. Its no wonder he lost those opportunities. Andy Murray is now a very heavy contender at three of four slams.

WHAT??

Since when was Roddick EVER a heavy contender at the FRENCH??

Is there another Roddick in a parallel universe whose record at the French wasn't 9-10 and didn't fail to reach even 1 QF??
 
I don't buy this home pressure crap. At that level you're either mentally strong enough to win or you aren't. The pressure of winning is enough by itself.

The media and fans like to create this hype around 'winning for your country'. These are pro's playing for money, it isn't Davis Cup.

Wait, what? So having an extra pressure is crap now?

It is true they play for money, but they also play for their own glory. They won't win for their countries, but there is already a lot of pressure on you to win an important title. If the media and the folks around keep throwing these kind of topic upon you it only gets worse. The pressure goes to a higher level.
 
I think one big difference is that the expectations on Murray presently aren't unrealistic. He is a co-favorite to win Wimbledon. I'd still put Djokovic as the odds on favorite, but Murray is capable of beating him and not likely to lose to anyone else, IMO.

Tsonga winning the French Open is about as unrealistic as Americans hoping for Isner or Querrey to win the USO. I think it puts more pressure on a guy when his home country puts unrealistic expectations on him.
 
WHAT??

Since when was Roddick EVER a heavy contender at the FRENCH??

Is there another Roddick in a parallel universe whose record at the French wasn't 9-10 and didn't fail to reach even 1 QF??

My Fail. Wimbledon is what I meant to write(Like I stated when I gave the stats before that)
 
I still haven't got what new Tsonga is trying to say. Other than there is an added home pressure which, yes, we have been made aware of centuries ago.
 
Tsonga: Local hero Murray will have an added pressure at his home Grand Slam

Sadly I am at home in Switzerland now rather than preparing for Wimbledon’s second week but even from this far away I might have a better idea than most of what it feels like to be Andy Murray right now.

I have it in common with Andy that we both come from countries that host Grand Slams, and while there are some big advantages to that it also brings with it a special kind of pressure.

It was only a few weeks ago that I made it to the semi-finals at Roland Garros so it is quite fresh in my mind: everyone wants to talk to you, everyone is desperate for you to do well, you yourself are desperate to succeed.

These are pressures that Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic, for example, have never experienced and while it is definitely great to have the support from the home fans it can bring its challenges too.

I think Andy handles it well and other players in the locker room admire the way he copes, especially as he is the only player from his country at the really top level.

The rest of us also know that you cannot just turn up and expect to win your matches against the players ranked lower than you. The standard of the top 30 is very good right now, so while Murray and Djokovic are favourites to meet in the final — and I think that is what will happen — they cannot relax for a second.

Maybe the thing that separates the top four from other players is that they are able to hold their highest level of play longer than others, and they will both need to do that.

Experience is a massive thing in these situations and that is why I think the biggest single threat to a Djokovic-Murray final might come from Novak’s possible quarter final opponent Tomas Berdych.

Apart from having an incredibly powerful game he knows what it is like to beat the biggest players on the biggest stages, so he is very capable of causing an upset if he makes it to the last eight, and Novak beats Tommy Haas, who has been playing really well. Juan Martin Del Potro is another with that experience, so he would be no easy semi-final opponent either.

Not that Andy has it easy, I have played those who he is most likely to face en route to the final and on their day they are difficult opposition.

Mikhail Youzhny likes the grass and has plenty of weapons to hurt you with. At 31 he knows his chances will not last forever so he will see this as a big opportunity.

I think maybe Andy’s hardest matches would be today and in the semi-finals, but if he was to meet Fernando Verdasco in the quarters he would have to beware his huge lefthanded forehand.

My feeling is that Andy is ready for these challenges. I will wish him the best — and I will have plenty of understanding for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/te...fried-Tsonga--Andy-Murray-added-pressure.html

That is really beautiful from Tsonga. I agree with every word that he said.
 
I think the pressure is more about the attention, and how it can be more difficult to remain focused. Laura Robson was saying that her well meaning neighbour kept shoving newspapers featuring her on the front page under her door when she was trying to ignore it, lol.

Regarding the Olympics, there was less pressure on Murray, because the media was distracted by loads of other sports, and there wasn't this sense of "no British man has won it since ....", and the tournament wasn't launched with all of the main stream press asking "Will he do it this time?"

McEnroe was saying the other day that in his time on tour as a player and pundit, he's never seen media pressure on players more intense than on Henman, and now Murray. He thinks we're bonkers.

I do think that Murray is fairly savvy when it comes to humouring the questions, but it's no longer enough to ask him if he thinks he can finally win it, they are now asking him about how he's dealing with the pressure of getting asked if he can win it.

That's what I thought he was talking about, the pressure and the expectations. The media is brutal. I think it would be very difficult indeed.
 
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