TT 100P Appreciation Thread

3loudboys

Legend
I have been using the Prince TT Tour 100P for 5 years (I think) and just had to shout about how good this stick really is. Having come from using weighted up LM Rads to approx 12oz I needed something lighter and less stiff than Heads next Gen Graphene infused line. I found the TT 100P from reading these boards and checking reviews and never looked back. It has closed the gap between traditional players stick feel which I prefer, with a more forgiving set up. I string mine with a full bed of Kirschbaum Max Power Rough 1.30 at 52lbs. It takes approx 2 hours to break the strings in but when it does its like silk in that open 18x20. The pattern being the most open 18x20 I've ever played with generates enormous spin with good racket speed. It's stability for the weight of 325g is remarkable, it des feel like I am swing a 340g stick. Comfort is not compromised despite a firmer feel at 62RA. Haven't tried the Twaron version that Prince firmed up - its on the shopping list. It also looks good.

Please share your experiences with it....
 

DustinW

Professional
The entire Textreme Tour line is great. I've hit the 100P (1st gen), 95 (1st gen), 100-290, and 100-310. I really enjoyed all of them.

The TT310 is my current stick, but I've been wanting to try out the new 100P to see how it compares.
 

3loudboys

Legend
The entire Textreme Tour line is great. I've hit the 100P (1st gen), 95 (1st gen), 100-290, and 100-310. I really enjoyed all of them.

The TT310 is my current stick, but I've been wanting to try out the new 100P to see how it compares.
How does the 310 play? I have my eye on one on the bay and but am a little wary of the 16x18. The reviews look really good and I am also curious on how the Twaron in the frame plays.
 

DustinW

Professional
How does the 310 play? I have my eye on one on the bay and but am a little wary of the 16x18. The reviews look really good and I am also curious on how the Twaron in the frame plays.
Super solid and stable, a giant sweetspot, firm yet comfortable, and just the right amount of power when I want it. I would never guess it was 16x18 if I didn't already know it. I haven't noticed anything weird with launch angles or too much spin or a lack of control. If I had one complaint about it, I wish the swingweight was just a tiny bit lower.
 

Lex

Semi-Pro
I'm a TT100P user as well. Fantastic frame!
I tried the 310 and loved every aspect of it EXCEPT volleys. I really prefer an 18x20 pattern especially when at the net for some reason. I couldn't dial in the volleys with the open pattern. One of my hitting partners experienced the same thing. He's back to the TT100P as well.
 

Brady12

New User
I play with the tt100p and the phantom 100p and prefer the phantom SLIGHTLY. The thinner bean and higher swing weight are more up my ally.

I love the tt100p as well. It is solid for its weight and it’s one of the most open. 18x20 patterns I’ve seen which is really special. The tt100p is a perfect even blend of power, spin and control. Great frame!

I have also played with the new Textreme with Tawron tt310 and I didn’t not like the feel as much the 2015 Textreme tours. The difference is slight but I believe the addition of tawron made the frame a bit too muted. I feel more
Connected to the 2015 Textremes. I did appreciate the added weight of the 310 but it comes in at the same weight of the 100p with the addition of the added strings. Like I said - the 18x20 pattern of the 100p is so open, it is not much more tight than the 16x18. Both frame are similar - I mostly just prefer the 2015 100p for the feel.... it might be psychological :)

if you are adding weight to the 100p or the 310, I would try the new phantom 100p. It has a bit more plow and power given the higher sw. cheers!
 
I play with both the 2015 and 2019 versions. As I've said elsewhere, they feel a bit different on contact but play really similarly. Granted, I do add weight to them---but it's only served to enhanced the qualities that were already there: excellent feel, stability, and comfort. It's a really underrated racquet for all-court play. The relatively open 18x20 pattern is really versatile and is great for both spin and flatter shots.

I tried the Phantoms early on but greatly preferred the head shape of the TT100P and the feel/response of the TT100P's variable beam over the constant-taper of the Phantoms.
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
I dig the 1st gen tt100P. It is a solid and forgiving all around stick. I can flatten my forehand, but I can also produce spin as needed. Launch angle is low enough, slice also works. I added some weight to the tail, and a tiny bit to 3,9&12 also. Strung 24kg/23kg Kirschbaum soft poly.

Could not find another 1st gen locally (Europe), so I bought a Gravity tour last week, to use as a spare. Required more tailweighting to play similar, but still feels heavier, and the head is wider. Strung too loose at 22.5kg, so yet to figure this out.

Another choice for a 2nd stick would’ve been a Tt95, which somebody is selling locally. Never played one. But it still intriques me.

I don’t think the 310 would work for me, it is stiffer, and the 16x18 also might not be for me. Only tried it once, strung real tight, felt boardy.
 

3loudboys

Legend
I play with both the 2015 and 2019 versions. As I've said elsewhere, they feel a bit different on contact but play really similarly. Granted, I do add weight to them---but it's only served to enhanced the qualities that were already there: excellent feel, stability, and comfort. It's a really underrated racquet for all-court play. The relatively open 18x20 pattern is really versatile and is great for both spin and flatter shots.

I tried the Phantoms early on but greatly preferred the head shape of the TT100P and the feel/response of the TT100P's variable beam over the constant-taper of the Phantoms.
I agree the more oval head shape on the TT 100P is preferrable to the rounder Phantom. I have tried both and it just suits the way I hit the ball, which is generally in the upper part of the hoop.
 

3loudboys

Legend
I dig the 1st gen tt100P. It is a solid and forgiving all around stick. I can flatten my forehand, but I can also produce spin as needed. Launch angle is low enough, slice also works. I added some weight to the tail, and a tiny bit to 3,9&12 also. Strung 24kg/23kg Kirschbaum soft poly.

Could not find another 1st gen locally (Europe), so I bought a Gravity tour last week, to use as a spare. Required more tailweighting to play similar, but still feels heavier, and the head is wider. Strung too loose at 22.5kg, so yet to figure this out.

Another choice for a 2nd stick would’ve been a Tt95, which somebody is selling locally. Never played one. But it still intriques me.

I don’t think the 310 would work for me, it is stiffer, and the 16x18 also might not be for me. Only tried it once, strung real tight, felt boardy.
Where about are you based? The 2015 100P regularly pops up on the bay.
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
Where about are you based? The 2015 100P regularly pops up on the bay.
Finland...

Anyway, the Gravity Tour is different, but very playable, might be that rather bring the head weight up a bit on the TT100P than look for another. Before the TT100P, I hit with my old loaded up M3.0, which is 12.9oz (where as my TT100P is only 12oz now) loved it except for occasional shoulder issues if my toss or serve form was not on. Need to test the GT more, so far only hit with it for a few games on court.
 
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3loudboys

Legend
Finland...

Anyway, the Gravity Tour is different, but very playable, might be that rather bring the head weight up a bit on the TT100P than look for another. Before the TT100P, I hit with my old loaded up M3.0, which is 12.9oz (where as my TT100P is only 12oz now) loved it except for occasional shoulder issues if I my toss or form was not proper. Need to test the GT more, so far only hit with it for a few games on court.
I did exactly the same thing, bought a Gravity Tour thinking of trying some similar but the balance was way off, far too head heavy. So I bought a Head leather and wrapped a tourna grip around it. Still way to sluggish for me. If you need something heavier I'd stick with the 100P and continue to customise.
 

weelie

Semi-Pro

3loudboys

Legend
These white 100P are looking awesome
Not long ago I was hesitating between these ones and the new version... ended up with Beast 98.
How do you find the Beast 98, solid beam or Ported? I heard there is a new line of Beasts about to be released with a new all red paint job. Was always curious to hit with one and the new PJ might just tempt me.
 

BillKid

Professional

3loudboys

Legend
Solid beam. Awesome stick, you can read my review here http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/prince-beast-98.610547/post-14549436
Unfortunately it sounds like the new version may not be sold in the US.
Nice review, the softness sounds encouraging, my arm is a little sensitive so that's good to know. Always liked the look of the specs with the slightly wider beam in the head for stability. Reminiscent of the Fisher pro no1's that started thin and got wider in the hoop. Thanks for sharing. Hope the red is available in the US so you can get your hands one.
 

Byon

New User
I have three 2015 TT100P. These are my main. Two are Black/green and another is white, the limited. I am a Prince guy and have/had several Beast and several Phantom as well as a TT95. TT100P has been one of the most effortless, maneuverable, comfortable and stable racquets to me. I am stringing racquets myself and currently find Kirschbaum Super Smash 16L at 52 lb best for my play.
 

Byon

New User
I have been using the Prince TT Tour 100P for 5 years (I think) and just had to shout about how good this stick really is. Having come from using weighted up LM Rads to approx 12oz I needed something lighter and less stiff than Heads next Gen Graphene infused line. I found the TT 100P from reading these boards and checking reviews and never looked back. It has closed the gap between traditional players stick feel which I prefer, with a more forgiving set up. I string mine with a full bed of Kirschbaum Max Power Rough 1.30 at 52lbs. It takes approx 2 hours to break the strings in but when it does its like silk in that open 18x20. The pattern being the most open 18x20 I've ever played with generates enormous spin with good racket speed. It's stability for the weight of 325g is remarkable, it des feel like I am swing a 340g stick. Comfort is not compromised despite a firmer feel at 62RA. Haven't tried the Twaron version that Prince firmed up - its on the shopping list. It also looks good.

Please share your experiences with it....
Have you used Kirshbaum Super Smash 16L on TT100P? I will try Max Power or Max Power Rough 1.30 soon, but wonder if you used both and could compare. I am looking for less powerful string than the SS 16L while staying with prestretched string such as made by Kirshbaum. I felt 4G 16G by Luxillon at 55lb more powerful and livelier than SS 16L at 52lb.
 

3loudboys

Legend
I have three 2015 TT100P. These are my main. Two are Black/green and another is white, the limited. I am a Prince guy and have/had several Beast and several Phantom as well as a TT95. TT100P has been one of the most effortless, maneuverable, comfortable and stable racquets to me. I am stringing racquets myself and currently find Kirschbaum Super Smash 16L at 52 lb best for my play.
Thats a coincidence as I have exactly the same quantity and type, two black & green and one white out. I have also been through two more in past, and fessing up, destroyed one in bad temper after receiving multiple bad bounces on the clay.
 

3loudboys

Legend
Have you used Kirshbaum Super Smash 16L on TT100P? I will try Max Power or Max Power Rough 1.30 soon, but wonder if you used both and could compare. I am looking for less powerful string than the SS 16L while staying with prestretched string such as made by Kirshbaum. I felt 4G 16G by Luxillon at 55lb more powerful and livelier than SS 16L at 52lb.
Never tried Super Smash but my experience with Max Power Rough is that it is pretty firm and low powered which is how I prefer my polyesters, in the low 50's. For me and I know this is subjective, when its broken in it feels similar to Alu Power, not quite that good a feel but certainly comparable and provides great feedback. The price was for a reel was also very attractive.
 

Byon

New User
I did not like Alu Power because I felt my tennis ball flied "dead" and slowed down when hitting it hard. Will try Max Power Rough, though. I agree Kirshbaum strings are right in price and of good quality.
 

flipflap

Rookie
Just recently bought a 2015 tour 100p after buying, tryingandselling a lot of racquets. Really like it, butstill in the honeymoon period. Added 3 gram lead at 12 because withiut it didnt have enough mass in the hoop.

Normally i tend to go backto the babolat pure aero vs / aerostorm aftera while or to the pure aero when lazy on court.

Found the grip size of the prince to be quitesmall, maybe will add another overgrip, anyone else experienced this?

String it withrpm balst , my go to string , at 23.5kg/52lbs
 

Byon

New User
Just recently bought a 2015 tour 100p after buying, tryingandselling a lot of racquets. Really like it, butstill in the honeymoon period. Added 3 gram lead at 12 because withiut it didnt have enough mass in the hoop.

Normally i tend to go backto the babolat pure aero vs / aerostorm aftera while or to the pure aero when lazy on court.

Found the grip size of the prince to be quitesmall, maybe will add another overgrip, anyone else experienced this?

String it withrpm balst , my go to string , at 23.5kg/52lbs
Prince grip shape is rounder than Babolat and it feels smaller in a hand. It will take a little time to adjust to it. Personally, I like the Prince grip shape most and feel most comfortable with it.
 
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3loudboys

Legend
Just recently bought a 2015 tour 100p after buying, tryingandselling a lot of racquets. Really like it, butstill in the honeymoon period. Added 3 gram lead at 12 because withiut it didnt have enough mass in the hoop.

Normally i tend to go backto the babolat pure aero vs / aerostorm aftera while or to the pure aero when lazy on court.

Found the grip size of the prince to be quitesmall, maybe will add another overgrip, anyone else experienced this?

String it withrpm balst , my go to string , at 23.5kg/52lbs
I use a Babolat skin feel on my G3 Tours and effectively reduce the size to 2.5 so go the other way. Didn't feel they were to small but you can add a heat shrink sleeve over the handle to increase the grip size by 1. It would also add another 10g's or so to the handle raising static weight and the SW a smaller amount.
 

Byon

New User
I use a Babolat skin feel on my G3 Tours and effectively reduce the size to 2.5 so go the other way. Didn't feel they were to small but you can add a heat shrink sleeve over the handle to increase the grip size by 1. It would also add another 10g's or so to the handle raising static weight and the SW a smaller amount.
Good suggestion. Another way is to try the Wilson Shock Shield Hybrid replacement grip. It feels like increasing the grip size by 1/2. It does add a weight of around 10 grams to the handle though.
 

3loudboys

Legend
Good suggestion. Another way is to try the Wilson Shock Shield Hybrid replacement grip. It feels like increasing the grip size by 1/2. It does add a weight of around 10 grams to the handle though.
Those are good for dampening as well. I found them a little to soft, prefer my grips firmer (almost leather like) and the skin feel makes the bevels more pronounced so grips are easy to find.
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
Just recently bought a 2015 tour 100p after buying, tryingandselling a lot of racquets. Really like it, butstill in the honeymoon period. Added 3 gram lead at 12 because withiut it didnt have enough mass in the hoop.

Normally i tend to go backto the babolat pure aero vs / aerostorm aftera while or to the pure aero when lazy on court.

Found the grip size of the prince to be quitesmall, maybe will add another overgrip, anyone else experienced this?

String it withrpm balst , my go to string , at 23.5kg/52lbs
I have a 3 with two overgrips on mine. Waiting on another (bought here on tt) that's a 4. My hand is a size 3, but I've usually gone for 3 plus overgrip. Though as a kid my 1st real racket was 4 and I had two overgrips on it, and played a 2 with a gel grip plus two overgrips a while back. So I am not that picky. I nowadays build a flare at the end of the grip, to allow for looser gripping.

23.5kg poly sounds right to me. I am on regular old Kirschbaum 24kg/23kg. Some lead around the hoop, bits here and there. And blutack in the handle to offset. I like to tinker.
 

Hefty Lefty

New User
I have both the 2015 TT 100p and the 2019 version. I also have a TT95 (2019). I play 5-6 times a week, a total of around 10 hours. The best thing about these rackets is that they have never had any arm issues despite using full poly strings most of the time and also being 53 years old. I have tried Hyper-G (17,18,19,20 gauges), Lux Alu Power, Yonex Polytour Fire, Wilson NXT, Gosen AK Pro CX, Laser Fiber JL100, Dunlop Explosive Tour, and others. I feel very little difference between the 2015 and 2019 versions. Perhaps the latter is a bit stiffer but not in any way to cause arm issues. In fact, if I could keep only one, I'd keep that. At the same time, I find that with my style of hitting the 100p doesn't give me enough spin. The TT95 is clearly better in that respect. If I could keep one of the three, that would be the one. Recently, I played a set with my wife's Yonex Vcore 100 and was able to hit much more confidently because of the added spin and definitely more power. The same when I borrowed my friend's Clash Tour for a week. Perhaps this racket is suitable for more advanced players than me (around 3.5-4.0 level).
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
I have both the 2015 TT 100p and the 2019 version. I also have a TT95 (2019). I play 5-6 times a week, a total of around 10 hours. The best thing about these rackets is that they have never had any arm issues despite using full poly strings most of the time and also being 53 years old. I have tried Hyper-G (17,18,19,20 gauges), Lux Alu Power, Yonex Polytour Fire, Wilson NXT, Gosen AK Pro CX, Laser Fiber JL100, Dunlop Explosive Tour, and others. I feel very little difference between the 2015 and 2019 versions. Perhaps the latter is a bit stiffer but not in any way to cause arm issues. In fact, if I could keep only one, I'd keep that. At the same time, I find that with my style of hitting the 100p doesn't give me enough spin. The TT95 is clearly better in that respect. If I could keep one of the three, that would be the one. Recently, I played a set with my wife's Yonex Vcore 100 and was able to hit much more confidently because of the added spin and definitely more power. The same when I borrowed my friend's Clash Tour for a week. Perhaps this racket is suitable for more advanced players than me (around 3.5-4.0 level).
Thanks for the post. Nice to hear the 2019 is not that much different. Just in case I need a third one down the line (now have two 2015s, received the 2nd today). I played a 16x19 102 frame still a year ago. But wanted to slice better. So I moved to a heavy leaded 16x19 M3.0, got my slice and found my flat forehand back. Moved back from SW to EE grip also. Some shoulder pain, so I bought a Clash Tour. Hated it for the flat put-away forehand. So, bought a 2nd hand 100P as a friend has played one for a few years now (though I usually beat him easily), and thus I knew it was a solid modern trad frame. Been happy camper since I bought it in the spring.

Actually my doubles is better than ever now. Only played doubles in the summer, which might've helped also.
 

flipflap

Rookie
Aha, indeed much more squarish/roundish than a babolat which is mor rectangular. I now added another overgrip but this indeed raises my weight with another 6 grams or so. Now it's strung 339 gram, a bit too high for my taste normally but let's see how it works out...
 
Super solid and stable, a giant sweetspot, firm yet comfortable, and just the right amount of power when I want it. I would never guess it was 16x18 if I didn't already know it. I haven't noticed anything weird with launch angles or too much spin or a lack of control. If I had one complaint about it, I wish the swingweight was just a tiny bit lower.
Hi Dustin - I am actually thinking about the TT100 (310) - using the TT100P now. I like the SW of the 100P, but wondering if the 16x18 pattern of the 310 would give higher launch angle and pop. Is it noticeably heavier than the 100P? Any other comparisons? Cheers
 

flipflap

Rookie
Hi Dustin - I am actually thinking about the TT100 (310) - using the TT100P now. I like the SW of the 100P, but wondering if the 16x18 pattern of the 310 would give higher launch angle and pop. Is it noticeably heavier than the 100P? Any other comparisons? Cheers
I believe they have the same strung weight because of less strings...
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
I will hopefully test a TT100 310 tomorrow. It would maybe be a nice addition to my bag, after two TT100Ps. My TT100Ps weigh around 345-350g, with two overgrips, some blu tac and a bit of lead around the inside of the frame on one of them.
 

Byon

New User
I believe they have the same strung weight because of less strings...
My racquets have different weights. My TT 310 with Spiky Black Shark 16g at 54lb, no OG, Wilson bumper guard tape, a prince dampener weighs 336 gram while TT 100Ps (2015) with the same setup weigh 326 - 329 gram.
 

lefty10spro

Semi-Pro
Hi Dustin - I am actually thinking about the TT100 (310) - using the TT100P now. I like the SW of the 100P, but wondering if the 16x18 pattern of the 310 would give higher launch angle and pop. Is it noticeably heavier than the 100P? Any other comparisons? Cheers
Easier power and depth. Slightly higher launch angle. Noticeably easier to swing because the balance is more headlight. Better in defensive positions. Slightly larger sweetspot. Negatives - a bit less stability. IMO pick your favorite - no more need to shop around. It truly doesn't get much better than this!
 

n8dawg6

Legend
i had a pair of the old tt 100P and regret that i let them go. i have a bad propensity toward selling a frame when the strings go dead ...
 

Byon

New User
i had a pair of the old tt 100P and regret that i let them go. i have a bad propensity toward selling a frame when the strings go dead ...
I heard a story that a wife who did not know about tennis thought a tennis racquet had to change when the string went bad. I guess that was what her husband told her for his frequnet racquet changes. :)
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
Who's still playing with the TT 100P? Mine is collecting dust because it's too hard to generate spin with using multi. This frame was made for poly. I only discovered that after buying it and I'm not a poly player.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
Who's still playing with the TT 100P? Mine is collecting dust because it's too hard to generate spin with using multi. This frame was made for poly. I only discovered that after buying it and I'm not a poly player.
what are you using that generates spin w a multi?
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
what are you using that generates spin w a multi?
I haven't found a multi that was spin friendly and especially on the TT 100P being medium powered with tight pattern, nothing short of poly would help.

Compared to my original Phantom 93P which I use my go to multi (Xcel 17) which has just as tight of a string pattern on a small head, but because it's low powered and flexible by today's standards, I don't have problems with spin.

I think this is why Babolat works so well with poly. Those frames are so stiff and powerful. Only way to tame it is with a dead non rebounding poly.
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
Who's still playing with the TT 100P? Mine is collecting dust because it's too hard to generate spin with using multi. This frame was made for poly. I only discovered that after buying it and I'm not a poly player.
I will soon request a set of ashaway crossfire zx on mine. That’s like poly with comfort, for me.
 

weelie

Semi-Pro
Easier power and depth. Slightly higher launch angle. Noticeably easier to swing because the balance is more headlight. Better in defensive positions. Slightly larger sweetspot. Negatives - a bit less stability. IMO pick your favorite - no more need to shop around. It truly doesn't get much better than this!
I hit a bit with a 310 yesterday. It felt a bit stiffer, but also "easier". Forehands were not a problem = the 16x18 was ok. My tt100p are heavier and more hl than stock,so no issue in thatfor me.
 
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