TW confirms Alexander Zverev uses Gravity Pro

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See the comments section of this youtube video.
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cluckcluck said:
Also confirmed here
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That's the usual pro endorses racquet spiel.
Doesn't say he uses the actual Gravity Pro racquet and not just a paint job.
Michelle confirms it's not a paint job.
Federer uses a RF97.
Thiem is using his new PS.
Looks like Zverev is getting his own too!
 
Well at least Head is finally doing something right.
Easiest "proof" Gravity Pro is the real deal (albeit with different specs than Z's own stick) is it's an old mold while all other sticks in the Gravity line are new mold(s). So Head could've made the Pro with a new mold as well but they didn't, that tells the story already.
 
YouTek (IG) Speed MP.
- Old mold just means the mold had been designed before and used for another racquet model.
 
Alex78 said:
Well at least Head is finally doing something right.
Easiest "proof" Gravity Pro is the real deal (albeit with different specs than Z's own stick) is it's an old mold while all other sticks in the Gravity line are new mold(s). So Head could've made the Pro with a new mold as well but they didn't, that tells the story already.
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Alex78 said:
YouTek (IG) Speed MP.
- Old mold just means the mold had been designed before and used for another racquet model.
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Multiple people who have play tested Gravity Pro have reported here it is not the same mold as YT IG Speed. Could be that Zverev actually switched to Gravity Pro.
 
Plot twist, he is actually using gravity tour (with tons of lead) under gravity pro paint job.

Possible.
 
haqq777 said:
Multiple people who have play tested Gravity Pro have reported here it is not the same mold as YT IG Speed. Could be that Zverev actually switched to Gravity Pro.
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From reading in those multiple Gravity threads in the racquet section I got the impression multiple posters thought the Pro and the YTIG Speed MP shared the same mold (I've not held the Gravity Pro in my hands so far and I only had a YTIG Speed MP some years back, quickly had to get rid of that frame as it caused severe arm pain for me). I'm not going to go deeper here because I don't really care and apparently, @Howard H himself informed us the GPro has a different code, so some minor tweaks on that original mold must have been made.
But even if the Gravity pro is different because Z had a hand in its design, the general consensus seems to be the two molds are highly similar, correct?
Totally different story with all the other sticks in the Gravity line, and that is actually the essence of my argument: Head made available a real player's frame as part of a retail line.
 
Alex78 said:
From reading in those multiple Gravity threads in the racquet section I got the impression multiple posters thought the Pro and the YTIG Speed MP shared the same mold (I've not held the Gravity Pro in my hands so far and I only had a YTIG Speed MP some years back, quickly had to get rid of that frame as it caused severe arm pain for me). I'm not going to go deeper here because I don't really care and apparently, @Howard H himself informed us the GPro has a different code, so some minor tweaks on that original mold must have been made.
But even if the Gravity pro is different because Z had a hand in its design, the general consensus seems to be the two molds are highly similar, correct?
Totally different story with all the other sticks in the Gravity line, and that is actually the essence of my argument: Head made available a real player's frame as part of a retail line.
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I saw multiple posts that mentioned it was a different mold, that is why I pointed it out. I also know a friend who playtested the Pro and mentioned the same. I haven't personally tried Gravity Pro, but I have played with YT IG Speed so once it is available I shall purchase the Gravity Pro and confirm. The two molds are similar though, indeed, from what I have heard. But not the same.

That said, Wilson and Prince have been ahead in the same regard when it came to offering racquets pros use to retail market. Wilson has the Ultra (Monfils) & Pro Staff RF97, and Prince offered Isner's Beast and Pouille's TT100P. So really, Head isn't leading the race by any means, simply following.

I understand your point though. And in the end, it is a good thing we are being offered softer frames - more similar if not same - to prostocks. It seems the whole market is moving towards softer, army friendly racquets as well.
 
Just in general: Nearly every racquet used by a pro player has been a market/inline racquet (sometimes years) before. Of course there are exceptions meaning some pro players use racquets that have never made it to the market.
 
Addxyz said:
Why say endorse if he actually uses it?
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To avoid admitting that the other endorsements are just that.. endorsements. While they cannot intentionally deceive the public, they can still get away with this deception by simply modifying their marketing to use the "endorsement" language. Thus, it sucks that the rest of the general market isn't as aware as those few percent that dig in to find out.
 
haqq777 said:
I saw multiple posts that mentioned it was a different mold, that is why I pointed it out. I also know a friend who playtested the Pro and mentioned the same. I haven't personally tried Gravity Pro, but I have played with YT IG Speed so once it is available I shall purchase the Gravity Pro and confirm. The two molds are similar though, indeed, from what I have heard. But not the same.

That said, Wilson and Prince have been ahead in the same regard when it came to offering racquets pros use to retail market. Wilson has the Ultra (Monfils) & Pro Staff RF97, and Prince offered Isner's Beast and Pouille's TT100P. So really, Head isn't leading the race by any means, simply following.

I understand your point though. And in the end, it is a good thing we are being offered softer frames - more similar if not same - to prostocks. It seems the whole market is moving towards softer, army friendly racquets as well.
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You are correct, I have played with Gravity Pro and I played with Youtek Innegra Speed for the longest time and they are different mold... The YT IG Speed plays crisper and was less arm friendly im my opinion. Then there is also different beam widths for these two racquets which isn't possible if it were the same mold. I did not feel that Gravity Pro and YT IG Speed were even similar to be honest but that might vary for everyone.
 
whorng said:
That's the usual pro endorses racquet spiel.
Doesn't say he uses the actual Gravity Pro racquet and not just a paint job.
Michelle confirms it's not a paint job.
Federer uses a RF97.
Thiem is using his new PS.
Looks like Zverev is getting his own too!
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Still no definitive proof that Thiem is using the actual V.3; high ra of V.3 retail model relative to V.1, and similarity of V.3 to V.2, which Thiem conspicuously didn't switch to, as well as Babolat's propensity for providing low ra pro stock are still red flags, as was the deafening silence from Babolat official.
 
Faris said:
You are correct, I have played with Gravity Pro and I played with Youtek Innegra Speed for the longest time and they are different mold... The YT IG Speed plays crisper and was less arm friendly im my opinion. Then there is also different beam widths for these two racquets which isn't possible if it were the same mold. I did not feel that Gravity Pro and YT IG Speed were even similar to be honest but that might vary for everyone.
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Obviously someone must get the two frames together in a few pics so we can compare. I have read several places on this forum that the two frames (IG Speed and Gravity Pro) share the SAME mold and several that they are DIFFERENT molds. Someone’s wrong. Which is it people?
 
Main thing to find out is whether Sasha is going to modify the racket. Moving the sweet spot upwards happens automatically by adding lead towards the tip of the head, anywhere from 10 to 2. If this racket is too light for a player, then adding weight in the area is only going to shift the sweet spot even more upwards, which may not be a desirable outcome for a racket design which supposedly has moved the spot up already.

Arguing whether a pro is using a PJ or not is not very relevant if he uses the stock frame but weights it up according to his needs, and replaces synthetic grip with leather. In essence, it is a different frame that he is using.
 
red rook said:
Obviously someone must get the two frames together in a few pics so we can compare. I have read several places on this forum that the two frames (IG Speed and Gravity Pro) share the SAME mold and several that they are DIFFERENT molds. Someone’s wrong. Which is it people?
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I don't think side by side pictures would prove anything since it isn't a drastically different looking mold that the naked eye can discern. I do know however that TW measured YT IG Speed and Gravity Pro both. And as you can see below, they are not the same mold.

YT IG Speed 18x20
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Gravity Pro
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sureshs said:
Main thing to find out is whether Sasha is going to modify the racket. Moving the sweet spot upwards happens automatically by adding lead towards the tip of the head, anywhere from 10 to 2. If this racket is too light for a player, then adding weight in the area is only going to shift the sweet spot even more upwards, which may not be a desirable outcome for a racket design which supposedly has moved the spot up already.

Arguing whether a pro is using a PJ or not is not very relevant if he uses the stock frame but weights it up according to his needs, and replaces synthetic grip with leather. In essence, it is a different frame that he is using.
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On that topic: Sascha’s frame had no dampener and appeared to have no lead at 3 and 9 as it used to. Did anyone else notice this or is it just me?
 
Sometimes pros use ridiculously low string tension - and guard against it going lower by restringing very frequently. That also essentially changes the behavior of a racket.

Lead, grip, string, and tension can make a pro racket behave very different from the stock version so don't read too much into pros really using stock instead of a PJ.
 
I’m not completely sure, but the drill pattern still seems to be the same as in the Speed MP 315, with a wider spacing on the peripheral strings and a denser one on the center.
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guilhermefdc said:
I’m not completely sure, but the drill pattern still seems to be the same as in the Speed MP 315, with a wider spacing on the peripheral strings and a denser one on the center.
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1. it can't be same if denser in middle and wider on the peripherals, that already changes everything
2. from the photos, Gravity seems simply denser everywhere
 
Watched Zverev get pushed around by Shapo at the Paris indoor. His FH is basically terrible. Just this weak loopy shot in the middle of the court that DS clobbered over and over. Really have to criticise his low static weight/high SW set up as I'm certain it makes his laggy FH even worse.
 
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