TW HEAD Prestige Classic 600 Reissue

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  1. coolschreiber

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    I really hope it gets re-issued like ps-85. I'd definitely purchase some!
     
  2. anubis

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    If TW sold reissued PT 280s, I'd buy two more right meow.
     
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    time to bump this thread. I'd buy at least one of each of the reissues suggested. put the old school paint on them, just like TW did with the PS85.
     
  5. vsbabolat

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    Robin Haase is still using the Prestige Classic 600 on the ATP Tour!
     
  6. Backhanded Compliment

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    yeah... a friend of mine found one at goodwill for $5 near mint... he was like... "is this thing something good" a pc600

    me, "it is legendary"

    i played with it some... twas very nice.. like the Prestige IGMP I was using at the time but more plush, pinpoint and rewarding. no vibration dampner needed. Not magical but "majestic"... in a way that no MP ever can be. MP's are practical but legendary mids like the PC600, Fischer vacuum 90, Max 200g and PS85 al l have things that we connoisseurs appreciate being reminded of by experiencing.
     
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  7. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Couldn't agree more.
     
  8. Capulin Zurdo

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    It would be fantastic if the PC600 would be re-released again. I'd be pretty ecstatic, as mids are my favorite racquets; especially because I haven't tried this one.
     
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    The Prestige Classic continues to be used on the ATP Tour since 1986. That's 30 years of the original Prestige Mid. The only other racquets that have that kind of longevity on the Tour are racquets like the Dunlop Maxply Fort, Wilson Jack Kramer Autograph, and Slazenger Challenge No.1.
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  11. TennisHound

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    I'm guessing that is the replacement for the Prestige Rev Pro?
     
  12. TR3NT

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    I just don't understand why they can't just bring back the old pc600 in todays paintjob. There is obviously a demand, however big or small it is, it would be more of a demand than that of the rev pro. Is it simply due to a higher cost to manufacture the older style pc600 racquets?
     
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  13. vsbabolat

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    It's just madness. They are making them for their Pros. They can make more and have a profit on by selling to us. However they choose not too.
     
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    Yes,very irrational from my former(18years)brand No.1.I can't do anything with the Graphenes,neither the Prestiges or the Radicals
    By the way,Graphene is the Ugliest Word of the year.
     
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  15. kailash

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    HEAD company should clean its head and reissue the Prestige classic frames; the PC600, one of the older versions of Prestige MP and Pro! HEAD will actually be making more money, because its competitors are eating away the market share otherwise.
     
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    @HEAD Penn Official keep reppin' that GP rev pro! lookin forward to the XT.

    I would buy a reissued PC600 for S&G's, but i guarantee all these ppl would complain it "doesnt play like the original"
     
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    And to therefore admit that last 30 years of R&D was worth sh*t, since they don't make better frames nowadays?
    For example, industry didn't need any new materials that were not used in 80's. It's all actually for marketing reasons only.
     
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    Please do it in this paint job....drool...
     
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    They can say it's loaded full of graphene and put the little bumps inside the throat to suit their marketing and 99% of the general public wouldnt know any different that it was an older model in fancy new paint. I think they could also have the potential to gain many new customers once the younger generation feels the difference, and again they wouldn't have the slightest clue that it's what a racquet was like 20 years ago.
     
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  21. stingstang

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    Its all marketing BS but I still don't get why they decided to modernize the Prestige. Ok it might not be as popular as it was in the day but it still has a loyal niche following and used by pros. If you want a modern frame they have the Extreme, Instinct, Speed, Radical lines (and the Ti etc). Thats at least 20 to choose from. If you want a classic, nothing.

    TW obviously had no trouble selling the last of the Youteks or IG.
     
  22. mhkeuns

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    Well..., it is probably true. The Pro Staff reissue plays nothing like the St.Vincent or Chicago. I have a total of five, including a Taiwan version and two each of the Chicago and St. Vincent. Even the Taiwan version feels very different. I would not particularly be expecting much from the reissue.
     
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    yep, add the dunlop MW200 to reissues that weren't like the original in many ppl's minds. No way to go back to the original austrian-manufacture PC600.
     
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    But it's bad for marketing and sales.
    Marketing continuously sells you (or at least tries to sell you) the story that new designs are more advanced and better than the old ones, right?
    So in case they reissue they want to degrade that 'classic' as well - on purpose. How else they can prove their 'point' otherwise?

    Let's suppose they reissue the classics with the same head size as the new upgrades. And then it suddenly turns out that players buy classics more than new designs, because they like them way better. How would that affect company image?
     
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    haha - right on. Everytime i read or hear that word i'm reminded of this




    New for 2016: HEAD Sandrene XT (Xtra Tinny)
     
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  26. vsbabolat

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    They are making the PC600 right now! Safin seems to be fine with it!!!
     
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  27. vsbabolat

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    Volkl is still selling the C10 Pro and updates the paint job. The PC600 was and is a far more popular racquet.
     
  28. dgoran

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    That is beautiful I would buy it as well just to have it in my collection...Wilson got the memo with 25th six one reissue and pro staff 85 not sure why is head so scared of cannibalizing their new line maybe because its weakest in years so they don't want to destroy what little they have
     
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    I wanted to find some market share pie chart, but I didn't succeed so far.
    Anyway, Volkl doesn't share similar market position as Head. This means that Head did a great job in that respect during all these years (let alone their mistake with the Graphene series).
    On the other hand, I don't see Volkl either produces two C10 Pro's line - they strictly keep it a classic.
     
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  30. vsbabolat

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    You see the C10 Pro is the og 10 series. Now you are up to the Super G organix 10. Volkl has kept the C10 Pro in line along with the V1 Classic while there has been many new V1 with the Suoer G V1 being the latest.
     
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    "what little they have" still being in the top 3 in worldwide sales? with babolat being no.1 in most places with racquets that are essentially the anti-PC600? why on earth WOULDN'T Head be trying to emulate Babs with "modern/hollow/light/stiff" racquets? that's what's selling. the idle speculation is fun, but the rec market just isnt asking for a large volume of 325 g unstrung midsize racquets.
     
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    Is this the consensus? I thought the ps85 reissue from china was way too flexible and didn't play like original ps85 or even the ps85 reissue from the 90s.
     
  33. zalive

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    Good point with V1 Classic along with V1 updates. As for C10 and 10 series I think that Volkl has taken out the relationship without this C in the name. You may or may not agree but that's the way I see it. But altogether this is stil Volkl, their market position is different to Head.

    Now I don't say Head needed the strategy they have taken. They could have taken completely different strategy. But by taking the path of 'innovation leader' who 'constantly improve their classics with each series' (that's the card they play at the market) they must not allow themselves moves which might jeopardize image they carefully build.

    Of course all of this is just the way I see it.

    And how hard is to approximately replicate stiffness from classic model. Is it quality control, lousy china manufacturing...or deliberate change of specs?

    I think it's clear that it is deliberate, I don't buy that china manufacturing cannot make similar frame to the classic one.
     
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    The very sad reality is, the racquets that are sold under the XT Graphene moniker are inferior to the Prestige Classic or any Prestige Mid that came before. They replaced the Prestige Mid with the Rev Pro which no one plays with. Its a pointless racquet. The bottom line is these new racquets have a much cheaper feel and feel worse than a Babolat which what they are supposedly chasing. If you look at Wilson they came out with a genuine 25th anniversary Pro Staff Classic 6.1 95 with graphite/kevlar composite (Don't get me started on the supposed 25th anniversary Prestige). If Wilson can do it surely HEAD can do it.
     
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    REV PRO 4EVA
     
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    You can have all you want. There's plenty for you. They are on sale, I hope you are stocking up.
     
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    ha, trust me, one is plenty. it is a novelty item.
     
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    This is one of the few things i disagree with you VS. I find the Rev Pro very very nice. I know i am one of the few, but the easy power and yet good control i get from this frame is good for me and my game
     
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    It's a marvelous little wand, I just can't win games with it.
     
  40. vsbabolat

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    What power? Unless you added about 30g to it. The Rev Pro was and still is a stupid idea. Now the Prestige Classic is very very nice with easy power and yet good control. Look how many big time servers use the Prestige Classic over the years.
     
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    It is so light that i am able to swing it very fast and generate some nice power. I know this has more to do with my swing-speed and not thanks to the frame itself, but since the balance and weight is like it is so..

    Complicated post i know, but bottom line is i find the Rev Pro to be a nice frame but i understand your "concerns" about it.
     
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  42. coolschreiber

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    If TW re-issues the old Prestige MP (PT280/630)... sign me up :D
     
  43. Ihatetennis

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    @HEAD Penn Official

    Please please please talk them into reissuing some rackets.

    My tip is, release mp with 16x19 drill pattern so that it appeals to spin based games

    There is nothing I want more than a solid head classic frame in open pattern


    Even just take the mold and add graphene dust, no one would bat an eye at the same racket being called graphene if you do the same thing as with these....just don't change it please
     
  44. n8dawg6

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    sounds like the Youtek IG Pro, just with graphene dust instead of Youtek dust?
     
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    Even those are gone....there is no current offering for a soft layup open string pattern prestige

    Rev is okay, but that's about it.

    Trust me I would use any prestige that fits the bill, but there are none readily available though
     
  46. zalive

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    Buy and use the old ones, where's the problem? ;)
     
  47. Ihatetennis

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    Too expensive...

    And would need 3-5 because college tennis
     
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    Wait, you're a college tennis player and you don't want a stiff, metallic, hollow feeling, tinny, and vibrating playing racquet? I thought all modern college players wanted that?!
     
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    Special Edition: Head Holloween XP series ;)
     
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    God no, I use radicals, but hate the tinny feel.

    I got over my pure drive phase at 16
     
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