ByeByePoly
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Didn't know that ... I assumed he was cont/east.
Agassi 2hbh my 2nd choice ... Safin in the mix also ... but I'm taking Agassi's fh.
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Didn't know that ... I assumed he was cont/east.
Agassi 2hbh my 2nd choice ... Safin in the mix also ... but I'm taking Agassi's fh.
SystemicAnomaly
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I assume that an extreme Conti is close to a 1.5 (bevel) grip whereas a semi-Conti (Aussie) would be close to a 2.5 grip. That would make sense if the top hand is SW.
3loudboys
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Yes that’s it, between conti and eastern bh grip - some people believe AA had this bottom hand as well. Combined with the semi top hand racket face is more naturally closed.
SystemicAnomaly
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Don't know about his Bh grips but I know that there was a very widespread misconception about his Fh grip. Even in decent articles, his Fh grip was said to be a SW or mild SW. AA, himself, revealed that he used something of an Eastern grip. Inspection of numerous images / videos of him, also suggested this. Perhaps he did use something close to a SW at some point in his career. Or maybe the imported in certain situations -- maybe on high bouncing surfaces.
3loudboys
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100% agree his FH was closer to Eastern just from watching him hit. Suited his aggressive game style and went through the court real quick.
EddieBrock
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This is exactly why I feel like it's a bad idea to think about any dominant arm. If you're thinking about your left arm, you can't be thinking about the right, or the hands, or the shoulders, etc.
SystemicAnomaly is talking about pronation during the follow through, how the left hand ends up in front of the right: "In order to do this, the L hand must travel further / faster than the R hand." (SA this is just hypothetical using your exampleDoes that mean you're pushing through with the left, or are you pronating the right with a loose left arm? I personally think about the racquet handle and feel like both hands/arms work equally.
By the way, this is exactly what happens with me when I try to do the left handed forehand.
SystemicAnomaly
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He also hit many of his Fh shots fairly flat. One study of his shots revealed that he had less spin on his Fh than on his Bh. Vic Braden also revealed that AA's Fh swingpath was shallower, on average, then those who hit with more TS. I recall Vic saying that he often hit the Fh with something close to a 20° rise.
3loudboys
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I guess it helped him as he got older and had back issues. Best to hit flat and hard and keep points short rather than grind from the back.
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You only think about stuff initially learning ... or working on or changing later. It's not like left arm dominant 2hbh players think about their 2hbh.
Sorry about your 2hbh destruction ... ttw can do that to a stroke.
Thanks - fortunately it started to come back! I'm going to stick with thinking about the racquet and not my arms; that seems to work pretty well for me.
ByeByePoly
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@J011yroger ... good evening.
This video (@2:55) triggered some memory of watching you hit a 2hbh. I always thought your follow through seemed to break off quickly ... but I didn't know why it appeared that way to my eye. I went and watched a couple of your 2hbhs in the "complete list" thread, and your right elbow stays pretty tucked to body. You are the coach ... I am obviously not, but maybe this is really a thing. I went and looked at Djokovic, Nadal, Agassi and right elbow does in fact stay away from body. Is Nikola right here? Is this an important fundamental of a 2hbh?Edit:
I went and checked what I assume are all left handed 2hbhs (Venus, Wazinaki, ...) and they had big clearance of right elbow from torso.
But Kerber might disprove this:
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