Two Handed Forehand-the Future of Tennis !!!

[Gregory Diamond]

This absolutely confirms that GD is just a troll. Not here to debate just to mess with us.

I wrote precisely many times what are advantages of two handed forehand and you couldnt deny it using any logical arguments.

You are annoyed that I dont agree with you. But really I win almost all matches against players using one handed forehand.

The best one handed forehand is needed to beat average two handed forehand.

 

[Saul Goode]

The best one handed forehand is needed to beat average two handed forehand.

What evidence do you have? Your match play? Again, you are reaching grand conclusions from small data samples.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

We see that people who fight with two handed forehand behave like members of some sect. They cant play properly two handed forehand but they know that it is not a good technique. They see in my videos that shortened reach is not any serious problem so they complain that the speed of the racket is not great. When I explain that firm grip allows to engage the whole body in the stroke what allows to accelerate the ball to the same speed as using one handed forehand with slower speed of the racket(greater mass works as a wall for the ball) they dont seem to understand. They just dont know elementary physics. They know other advantages of two handed forehand (hitting the ball on the rise, great angles, hiding direction of the stroke, lack of unforced errors, precison, shorter swing what allows to hit the ball precisely even if we are late) but they pretend that it is not important. They know that almost all women who used two handed forehand won grand slams in singles or doubles. The only fact important for them is that we cant find winners of grand slams using two handed forehand in men`s tennis. We cant find them because strong young players are forbidden to play two handed forehand. Usually strong girls are forbidden too. Only weak girls were allowed and those weak girls(Seles, Bartoli, Hsieh, Peng) won grand slams.

 

[rogerroger917]

I'm getting "Diamond fh method" T-shirts made. Anyone want one?

 

[3loudboys]

I'm getting "Diamond fh method" T-shirts made. Anyone want one?

Yes quick before Brexit and they double in price.


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[grhcan99]

I'm getting "Diamond fh method" T-shirts made. Anyone want one?

I'm in and while we're at it how about a GD 2HFH Fan Club with GD as the pioneering president?

Edit: Then as our first activity we can all fly to Poland and cheer for him while he plays in the prestigious ITF tournaments. I'm quite excited now relishing the thought of watching him play and win.

 

[dominikk1985]

I'll post some porn for Gregory for tonight

 

[grhcan99]

I'll post some porn for Gregory for tonight

Now you've done it. I'm heading out to the club tonight, rent a ball machine and transform my forehand to 2hfh.

 

[dominikk1985]

He beat hewitt so technique must be superior

 

[grhcan99]

Now you've done it. I'm heading out to the club tonight, rent a ball machine and transform my forehand to 2hfh.

Oh hold on but he switches his hands!!!! GD does not!!! Ah no wonder then he did not become number 1.

 

[grhcan99]

He beat hewitt so technique must be superior

But his technique is different from GD! Can you imagine if he had seen GD's technique. He could have easily gotten to the top. Don't you think?

 

[rogerroger917]

I changed my mind. I'm starting the over 55 polish champ fan club and t shirt sale. The only guy GD plays. Champ seems to beat GD everytime so he really should be our focus.

 

[mad dog1]

I changed my mind. I'm starting the over 55 polish champ fan club and t shirt sale. The only guy GD plays. Champ seems to beat GD everytime so he really should be our focus.

But we already all agreed!

 

[rogerroger917]

But we already all agreed!

Lol....

 

[rogerroger917]

Can someone actually learn the 2hfh and report back?
I volunteer shroud.

 

[mad dog1]

Can someone actually learn the 2hfh and report back?
I volunteer shroud.

We all are not ready for the future. We live in the present!

 

[Rubens]

EACH TIME YOU REPLY TO THIS THREAD, GD MAKES GOD CRY!

 

[Saul Goode]

EACH TIME YOU REPLY TO THIS THREAD, GD MAKES GOD CRY!

DODGY RIGOR? AMEN! is an anagram for Gregory Diamond.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

But his technique is different from GD! Can you imagine if he had seen GD's technique. He could have easily gotten to the top. Don't you think?

It is true. Gambill switched hands like Hsieh. If he used two handed forehand with crossed hands he would be the best.

 

[rogerroger917]

It is true. Gambill switched hands like Hsieh. If he used two handed forehand with cross hands he would be the best.

Agreed

 

[Gregory Diamond]

Agreed

You cant agree so easily. You should fight.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

We are talking here about two handed forehand but equally interesting is my two handed backhand. Look at 0:45-0:47,1:09-1:11, 2:15-2:17. Sometimes, usually when I go for a winner, I use inertial two handed backhand. It is not two handed backhand. It is not one handed backhand. It is something in-between. It cant be used too often because it is safe only if the speed of the racket is great.

My two handed forehand is now, after last changes of grips, a great weapon but my two handed backhand has always been excellent. It is technically much better than stiff backhands of Djokovic or Zverev. Most professionals use stiff two handed backhand. They were just taught by average coaches.

 

[ARKustom93]

We are talking here about two handed forehand but equally interesting is my two handed backhand. Look at 0:45-0:47,1:09-1:11, 2:15-2:17. Sometimes, usually when I go for a winner, I use inertial two handed backhand. It is not two handed backhand. It is not one handed backhand. It is something in-between. It cant be used too often because it is safe only if the speed of the racket is great.

Just curious, ... do you pay these guys off to hit down the middle?

 

[Gregory Diamond]

Just curious, ... do you pay these guys off to hit down the middle?

I won this match 6:0 6:0 and first game I lost when it was 3:0 in the third set. I chose fragments when my opponent played the best. During this practice I tested new grips of left and right hand in my two handed forehand. But answering your question my opponents usually dont have time to direct the ball precisely. They are forced to run a lot. I almost dont make any unforced errors so very often my opponents are not prepered physically to hit a winner even if they are in a position to do it. If I have won 40 matches in tournaments since the beginning of May and lost only 3 it means that this tactics works really well.

 

[Jannick]

It is technically much better than stiff backhands of Djokovic or Zverev.

I imagine that if Zverev had your backhand he would've wont he ATP finals 6-0 6-0 instead.

How about Djokovic, would he have won 3 grandslams this year instead of 2?

 

[Doubles]

This keeps getting better and better. Who knew the only true tennis was played by old people in Poland?

 

[Gregory Diamond]

This keeps getting better and better. Who knew the only true tennis was played by old people in Poland?

We all see that nowadays the level of professional tennis is very low. It is the only reason why old players like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic who should end their careers several years ago win all grand slams. So called modern technique used by young players produces only average players.

I see that you think that Nadal, Federer or Djokovic have the best technique. Of course it is not true. If it was true we would see hundreds of players who tried to copy them achieving success. We cant see even one. Nadal, Federer or Djokovic win mostly because of their physical fitness. Nadal`s backhand is terrible. Federer`s backhand is terrible, Djokovic backhand is terrible. Their forehands are not better. But they are so strong that even using this technique they generate enough pace and spin that they win. If you want to find tennis players with excellent technique look for them among weak women who have to engage all their muscles to hit the ball.

We remember Courier who had primitive backhand and won severals grand slams. What we can say about backhand of McEnroe. It is not even backhand.

And my backhand is technically much better than backhand of Djokovic or Nadal. All my videos prove it.

 

[Doubles]

We all see that nowadays the level of professional tennis is very low. It is the only reason why old players like Federer, Nadal and Djokovic who should end their careers several years ago win all grand slams. So called modern technique used by young players produces only average players.

I see that you think that Nadal, Federer or Djokovic have the best technique. Of course it is not true. If it was true we would see hundreds of players who tried to copy them achieving success. We cant see even one. Nadal, Federer or Djokovic win mostly because of their physical fitness. Nadal`s backhand is terrible. Federer`s backhand is terrible, Djokovic backhand is terrible. Their forehands are not better. But they are so strong that even using this technique they generate enough pace and spin that they win. If you want to find tennis players with excellent technique look for them among weak women who have to engage all their muscles to hit the ball.

We remember Courier who had primitive backhand and won severals grand slams. What we can say about backhand of McEnroe. It is not even backhand.

And my backhand is technically much better than backhand of Djokovic or Nadal. All my videos prove it.

you should play professionally.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

you should play professionally.

It is stupid argument. Technique is not in tennis most important. I am too old to compete with young players but I beat in my category players who were about #50 in ITF ranking. It is the only important ranking in the world.

We should understand that most professional players are just machines forced to play tennis since they were 4-5 years old. They did nothing but play tennis. No real education. Federer, Nadal or Djokovic were taught their technique over 25 years ago when they didnt understand anything. Just in their case it worked. Mostly because they were physically fit.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

I imagine that if Zverev had your backhand he would've wont he ATP finals 6-0 6-0 instead.

How about Djokovic, would he have won 3 grandslams this year instead of 2?

Do you know anybody who plays two handed backhand in the same way as Djokovic ?

 

[Doubles]

Why isn't Andre Dome a slam champion?

 

[grhcan99]

[QUOTE="And my backhand is technically much better than backhand of Djokovic or Nadal. All my videos prove it.[/QUOTE]

Hear hear!

 

[Saul Goode]

It is stupid argument. Technique is not in tennis most important. I am too old to compete with young players but I beat in my category players who were about #50 in ITF ranking. It is the only important ranking in the world.

We should understand that most professional players are just machines forced to play tennis since they were 4-5 years old. They did nothing but play tennis. No real education. Federer, Nadal or Djokovic were taught their technique over 25 years ago when they didnt understand anything. Just in their case it worked. Mostly because they were physically fit.

So much blather

 

[Gregory Diamond]

[QUOTE="And my backhand is technically much better than backhand of Djokovic or Nadal. All my videos prove it.

Hear hear![/QUOTE]
I know a lot of players who have better forehand and backhhand than Djokovic, Nadal and Federer (of course technically) but they are not strong enough to generate great pace and spin. In professional tennis physical fitness is most important. It is obvious.

 

[Jannick]

Nadal and Federer

not strong enough to generate great pace and spin.

It is obvious.

 

[Jannick]

Nadal and Federer

not strong enough to generate great pace and spin.

It is obvious.


Yes very obvious:
How about instead of basing your facts on your own observations and saying "it is obvious," you get actual facts.
_________________________________________________________________
Rafael Nadal....................... 1800-4900 r.p.m. .........3200 r.p.m.

Roger Federer.................... 1400-4500 r.p.m. ..........2700 r.p.m.

Andy Roddick..................... 1400-4200 r.p.m. ..........2700 r.p.m.

Marat Safin.......................... 900-3300 r.p.m. ..........2200 r.p.m.

Lleyton Hewitt.................... 1300-3700 r.p.m. ..........2200 r.p.m.

Andre Agassi........................ 1200-3300 r.p.m. .........1900 r.p.m.

Pete Sampras...................... 1000-3400 r.p.m. .........1800 r.p.m.

* Tennis Magazine (2009) https://www.****************.com/2-general-messages/121177-forehand-spin-rates-7-top-players.html
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

[Gregory Diamond]

Nadal and Federer

not strong enough to generate great pace and spin.

It is obvious.


Yes very obvious:
How about instead of basing your facts on your own observations and saying "it is obvious," you get actual facts.
_________________________________________________________________
Rafael Nadal....................... 1800-4900 r.p.m. .........3200 r.p.m.

Roger Federer.................... 1400-4500 r.p.m. ..........2700 r.p.m.

Andy Roddick..................... 1400-4200 r.p.m. ..........2700 r.p.m.

Marat Safin.......................... 900-3300 r.p.m. ..........2200 r.p.m.

Lleyton Hewitt.................... 1300-3700 r.p.m. ..........2200 r.p.m.

Andre Agassi........................ 1200-3300 r.p.m. .........1900 r.p.m.

Pete Sampras...................... 1000-3400 r.p.m. .........1800 r.p.m.

* Tennis Magazine (2009) https://www.****************.com/2-general-messages/121177-forehand-spin-rates-7-top-players.html
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

You probably misunderstood my comment. I didnt say that Nadal, Djokovic and Federer cant generate pace and spin. I said that other players who have better technique than Federer, Nadal and Djokovic cant generate pace and spin because of their lack of physical fitness and strength.

 

[Kevo]

I can't believe it! Video evidence of Gregory's 1HFH! :35, 1:18

I guess the 2HFH is superior for GD until it's not. I have a feeling there are players on this board that could make GD hit a majority of 1HFH now that we've seen his 2HFH pain threshold. ;-)

 

[Gregory Diamond]

I can't believe it! Video evidence of Gregory's 1HFH! :35, 1:18

I guess the 2HFH is superior for GD until it's not. I have a feeling there are players on this board that could make GD hit a majority of 1HFH now that we've seen his 2HFH pain threshold. ;-)

I dont understand why you are surprised. Two handed player uses two handed forehand when the ball is within its reach and one handed forehand when the ball is far from the body. Because of injured right wrist I hit most balls using two handed forehand and only when I really cant I use one handed. I played one handed forehand for 15 years before I injured the wrist.

But if two handed player has a choice he always chooses two handed forehand because it is much better technique. People who cant play two handed forehand have no choice. They are not real tennis players.

 

[Jannick]

I dont understand why you are surprised. Two handed player uses two handed forehand when the ball is within its reach and one handed forehand when the ball is far from the body.

Jack of all trades, master of none.

Any half decent player would just start making you run.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

I dont understand why some of you are so aggressive only because I say that two handed forehand is a very good technique. This technique has been proved on the highest level. Seles, Bartoli, Hradecka, Hsieh, Peng, Gambill, Santoro,....And I win almost all tournaments I take part in though I have an injured right wrist.

I understand you want me to change forehand to one handed so that I lost most matches. I won most matches only becaue my opponents used one handed forehand.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

Jack of all trades, master of none.

Any half decent player would just start making you run.

It is not that easy. I win most tournaments just because I force other players to run because I play much greater angles and to the last moment I hide where I am going to hit the ball.

 

[Jannick]

I'm giving up, it feels like you're ignoring everything that has been said by everyone in this entire thread.

 

[Kevo]

I dont understand why some of you are so aggressive only because I say that two handed forehand is a very good technique. This technique has been proved on the highest level. Seles, Bartoli, Hradecka, Hsieh, Peng, Gambill, Santoro,....And I win almost all tournaments I take part in though I have an injured right wrist.

I understand you want me to change forehand to one handed so that I lost most matches. I won most matches only becaue my opponents used one handed forehand.

This post of yours can answer its own question quite nicely.

I dont understand why some of you are so aggressive only because I say that two handed forehand is a very good technique.

Your first sentence incorrectly states the reason for aggressive replies. It also misstates your framing of the thread in the first place.

....And I win almost all tournaments I take part in though I have an injured right wrist.

Then you ignore in your third sentence many of the reasoned replies in this thread about your tennis skill by implying that your 2HFH is the main factor in your wins.

I understand you want me to change forehand to one handed so that I lost most matches.

Then you set up the classic straw man in your next to last sentence by assigning false motives to people on the thread. Classy.

I won most matches only becaue my opponents used one handed forehand.

And you once again ignore reasonable arguments in this thread about likely reasons for your success in your final sentence.

So hopefully your understanding of aggressive responses should be greatly enhanced now, but I fear it may not be the case.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

This post of yours can answer its own question quite nicely.


Your first sentence incorrectly states the reason for aggressive replies. It also misstates your framing of the thread in the first place.


Then you ignore in your third sentence many of the reasoned replies in this thread about your tennis skill by implying that your 2HFH is the main factor in your wins.


Then you set up the classic straw man in your next to last sentence by assigning false motives to people on the thread. Classy.


And you once again ignore reasonable arguments in this thread about likely reasons for your success in your final sentence.

So hopefully your understanding of aggressive responses should be greatly enhanced now, but I fear it may not be the case.

The only problem here is that most of you dont want to accept that there are situations when two handed forehand is much better than one handed. That there are it is obvious. The same as there are situations when volley or smash are better than one handed forehand. We all agree that a player who cant play volley or smash is not a real tennis player. Also a player who cant play two handed forehand when it is more effective is not a real tennis player. It is a disabled tennis player.

I win almost all matches because I force my opponents to be in situations when they should use two handed forehand but they dont do it because they were not taught. Of course they use one handed and they lose only because of that. I am just bored to play with one handed players. There is no fun. My mind is not active because there is no need to use it. It is enough to use simple tactics.

 

[mad dog1]

The only problem here is that most of you dont want to accept that there are situations when two handed forehand is much better than one handed. That there are it is obvious. The same as there are situations when volley or smash are better than one handed forehand. We all agree that a player who cant play volley or smash is not a real tennis player. Also a player who cant play two handed forehand when it is more effective is not a real tennis player. It is a disabled tennis player.

I win almost all matches because I force my opponents to be in situations when they should use two handed forehand but they dont do it because they were not taught. Of course they use one handed and they lose only because of that. I am just bored to play with one handed players. There is no fun. My mind is not active because there is no need to use it. It is enough to use simple tactics.

So you admit that the 2hfh is only better in certain limited situations. We all know that this is not the forehand of the future then.

If you are bored playing at your current level, move up. I’m sure there are many more levels above you to give you a challenge.

Your mind is not active because you stubbornly choose not to use it.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

So you admit that the 2hfh is only better in certain limited situations. We all know that this is not the forehand of the future then.

If you are bored playing at your current level, move up. I’m sure there are many more levels above you to give you a challenge.

Your mind is not active because you stubbornly choose not to use it.

No. I only tried to express my opinion in a nice way for one handed players because they are annoyed when I remind them that they are not real tennis players. The truth is that two handed forehand is better in most situations but there are situations when one handed is better and we (two handed players)use it then(when the ball is not within the reach of two handed).

 

[mad dog1]

No. I only tried to express my opinion in a nice way for one handed players because they are annoyed when I remind them that they are not real tennis players. The truth is that two handed forehand is better in most situations but there are situations when one handed is better and we (two handed players)use it then(when the ball is not within the reach of two handed).

Great!!! We are all happy this matter is settled!!! We all agree that the 2hfh is NOT the forehand of the future because the forehand of the future should be the best for all situations!!!

Since you use the 1hfh in certain situations, you are not a real tennis player either.

 

[Gregory Diamond]

Great!!! We are all happy this matter is settled!!! We all agree that the 2hfh is NOT the forehand of the future because the forehand of the future should be the best for all situations!!!

Since you use the 1hfh in certain situations, you are not a real tennis player either.

No. We established that the real tennis player should use two handed forehand in most situations but he should be able to play one handed forehand on the same level because this technique is better when tha ball is far from our body. Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are examples of disabled tennis players who were stubborn and didnt learn the basic stroke in tennis. We cant be surprised that there is a great crisis in tennis. We talked about it in another thread.

 

[mad dog1]

No. We established that the real tennis player should use two handed forehand in most situations but he should be able to play one handed forehand on the same level because this technique is better when tha ball is far from our body. Nadal, Federer and Djokovic are examples of disabled tennis players who were stubborn and didnt learn the basic stroke in tennis. We cant be surprised that there is a great crisis in tennis. We talked about it in another thread.

No, we all agreed that the 2hfh is not the future!!!