Two Handed Forehand-the Future of Tennis !!!
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Gregory Diamond
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It is not wise to argue about physics with theoretical physicist.
Can you explain why adding the second hand makes the ball "feel" the entire body when one hand makes the ball "feel" only the racquet head? I don't understand why you say that. I swing with my whole body when using a one handed forehand.
Momentum = Mass x Velocity
Both forehands involve the same mass. One forehand involves greater velocity. Therefore, the one with the greater velocity, the one handed forehand, will have the greater momentum going into the collision with the ball. If it has greater momentum, it will impart greater force onto the ball.
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Are two atoms better than one? Or is it dependent on the forces between them?
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Gregory Diamond
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When you hold the racket using two hands the racket almost becomes the part of your body and during collision the ball feels heavy object. When you use one handed forehand you have to accelerate the racket to great speed and there is a looseness in your wrist. The rest of your body cant keep up with the racket and the ball "feels" only the head of the racket. During collision the head bounces back.
You can see that in my videos that when I play two handed forehand I dont accelerate my racket to the speed the same as my opponents using one handed forehand do but the speed of the ball is at least similar. Because of the smaller speed of the racket and firm grip I have much greater control. There must be the reason why I won 40 matches in tournaments and lost only 3 since the beginning of May.
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Gregory Diamond
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It was stolen. I cant say who stole it because I could be banned once more.
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Gregory Diamond
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For a week. You see that there are a lot of people who dont like two handed forehand. You cant be surprised that two handed forehand is not popular among professional players if people who promote it are banned.
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Don’t hear much about it from people who aren’t banned. Are you OCD GD. There is help available for that you know.
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Gregory Diamond
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What means "OCD" ?
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Gregory Diamond
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You cant be talking about me. There is nothing obsessive and compulsive in me. You are just annoyed because you dont like two handed forehand but now you know that it is the future of tennis.
Even with an injured right wrist I win everything.
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When you say everything, did you masquerade as Alexander Zverev on Sunday Professor Diamond?
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GD - did you know that in the Middle Ages ‘Diamonds’ were believed to have healing properties able to cure ailments such as fatigue and mental illness. Not sure that is the case on this forum. Just saying.
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But instead, Nadal’s primary strategic weapon is to use his “not too good” one-handed forehand to set up a cross court rally to a righties backhand. Likewise, he will do everything he can to avoid a cross court rally from his 2hbh to his opponents 1hfh.
If it works for you then I respect that, but personally I just don’t think it makes sense to compare the forehand & backhand in this way. The backhand is biomechanically different.
If a right handed baseball pitcher tried to pitch using 2 hands instead on 1 on their RHS this would result in a significantly slower pitch. If the same pitcher used something similar to a 1HBH motion to pitch, then this would also be slower than the 1HFH, but roughly comparable in speed to a 2HBH motion. In summary, 1HBH vs 2HBH = small difference, 1HFH vs 2HFH = huge difference.
There are similar biomechanical differences between FH and BH in tennis also. Just because 2HBH achieves a comparable result to 1HBH, it doesn’t follow that a 2HFH will achieve a similar result to a 1HFH
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2 things:
1) please provide proof of your claims. You can say the ball feels more from two hands but you have no basis of your claim so there's no reason for us to believe you.
2) please provide one single example of a two handed shot that is hit as hard as a Delpo forehand or a Wawrinka backhand at their peak speeds. Those are about as fast as one handed shots can go on either wing, so if two handed shots are stronger then you should be able to show me an instance where a two handed shot produced something at least as fast.
Gregory Diamond
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The only way to prove it is to force Djokovic and Wawrinka to learn two handed forehand.
If you used your hand to push the strings of the racket held by two hands and by one hand in a position when the ball for the first time touches the strings you would at once feel strong resistance in the first case and very weak in the second.
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Gregory Diamond
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Two handed forehand workes like a wall
Two handed forehand works like a wall. The slower the ball the less effective two handed forehand is. The baseball pitcher throws the ball which initial speed is zero. It is for two hands the worst situation because the most important advantage of two handed forehand is the possiblility of absorbing energy of aproaching ball. The same problem is with serve. Two hands are not effective because initial speed of the ball is very low. But two hands can work well when you play volley.
Gregory Diamond
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You have a real problem because my results prove that two handed forehand is at least equally effective as one handed and in your opinion it couldnt happen. You are trying to diminish the meaning of my excellent results but you failed.
And please. Dont try to suggest mental illness of anybody because only primitive disgusting people do such thing.
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Gregory Diamond
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Yet I win everything. You could win too but you dont want to. It is your choice. I see that you like to jump like a goat and throw the racket at the ball. Probably it is what you like in tennis. I cant change what you like.
Jannick
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what results, what proof? You are just spitting out your opinions and wild fantasies. No proof at all.
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No but you could appreciate it and simply not rubbish other peoples opinions. Said this before you could learn from some of these guys.
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Jannick
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You can't actually be this dumb right.
I could win easily too against men who are worse than me by just slicing. Doesn't mean it's a better choice than to hit a drive.
You use this strategy successfully in a league of broken and old players, it can fit for that style of play because your muscles are too weak for the 1hfh. It works if you're injured or weak. That's the only time it's a reasonable shot.
Can't get the same leverage momentum or the so called 'drag' which you get from Modern Tennis. Your technique looks similar to how they played in the 60s.
You don't seem well educated and are basing all of your technical assumptions on results instead of physics.
Look into this if you have the time.
Gregory Diamond
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Tim Mayotte never played real tennis. He played serve and volley. We cant be surprised because his forehand and backhand were very weak. You can see in video below. When in your video he shows how to play modern forehand(he never used it during his career) it is not even funny. It is pathetic. It is obvious that he doesnt know what he is talking about.
ChaelAZ
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Yeah, had he played seniors events in Poland with two hands...then we could say he plays real tennis. An appearance at the US Open...chump, for sure.
Gregory Diamond
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Good tennis players go to the net only when they are forced to. They control rallies from the baseline.
GeoffHYL
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GD, you are funny. Have you ever seen Tim Mayotte play in person? I was at Stanford the same time as Tim. He could rally all day from the baseline if he wanted to, but his net game was so good he won a lot more points using it. Since he never played real tennis, and you do, you should be able to beat him, even if he stayed on the baseline and didn't come to net, and you played on clay, correct?
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We get it, you are an incomplete player and can only play back. Don't be so hard on yourself GD. Worse to project that on other, complete and competent players.
Gregory Diamond
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I published a video with Tim Mayotte. Everybody can see that he almost only run to the net. It is not real tennis. This style died many years ago. Now you have to play forehand and backhand to win.
Gregory Diamond
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I dont go to the net because I win without it. I win almost all tournaments I take part in.
Jannick
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Ironically I think 99% of the people commenting on this post can easily beat you and would absolutely go to the net if they had an opening.
You're contradicting yourself at every turn aswell and making nonsense claims with nothing to support them. Over and over. I seriously still can't believe if this is a troll or just the most ignorant tennis amateur ever.
You're contradicting yourself at every turn aswell and making nonsense claims with nothing to support them. Over and over. I seriously still can't believe if this is a troll or just the most ignorant tennis amateur ever.
Gregory Diamond
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Where are those contradictions ?
Jannick
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Repeating for the 100th time, it doesn't matter. No point in saying it over and over again. If you win in a league with weak players you can get away with bad play, strategies and faults.
And from the videos I've seen I would rate you a poor 3.5.
Again, doesn't matter if you win or lose, that doesn't prove a certain strategy.
Gregory Diamond
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I can beat players who are or were about #50 in ITF ranking in my category. It is not bad for a person with injured right wrist.
ChaelAZ
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Sure. Too bad you aren’t a complete player though. You might be able to win teal tournaments. You do some good rec stuff for where you are, for sure.
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FiReFTW
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I think you are severely overestimating the average tennis level of an average ttw poster.
GeoffHYL
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Of course, you don't answer either of my questions, you just make assertions. This is why nobody takes you seriously.
Gregory Diamond
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I can serve much faster and go to the net but I dont have to. I dont want to waste my energy. When I play from the baseline I not only win a point but also I force my opponent to run a lot. After several rallies he is so tired that I win next points easily. This tactics works well on clay. We all know that only on clay there is real tennis.
Gregory Diamond
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He is in my age. One year older. Now he is overweight. It is video from 2013. No backhand. No forehand.
GeoffHYL
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You are right, he's probably a UTR 8 or less, right? You should be able to beat him what, 6-2, 6-2?
Gregory Diamond
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I am convinced that most of you practice two handed forehand now. We all established that it is the best technique inside the court. All aggressive players should use it. When the ball is too far from you and too high you can use one handed forehand. We found compromise. Volleys near your body when approaching ball is fast should be played using two handed volley but if the ball is slow and far fromthe body one handed should be used.
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Chadalina
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I view 2h on either side as defensive. It works really well when your contact pt is late.
Gregory Diamond
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I agree that it is better than one handed when you are late but also when you return fast serves near your body, when you take the ball on the rise, when you want to play great angles, when you want to hide where you want to hit the ball, when you are inside the court.
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