Jannick
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What kind of mental handicap do you have?
None of us agreed with you on this and are fiercly against your false claims.
Two Handed Forehand-the Future of Tennis !!!
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None of us agreed with you on this and are fiercly against your false claims.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
Who dont agree ? It was all explained before. You cant disagree with obvious facts.
Jannick
Rookie
We've said this 1000 times.
You don't have facts. You winning a tournament doesn't prove anything.
Literally everyone, noone agrees.
We can disagree if we want, because they are not facts. It is actually a fact that the one handed forehand has more power due to leverage. We all agree on the fact that the two handed backhand is an option if you aren't strong and can't swing a racket like a normal person. (e.g. injury).
3loudboys
G.O.A.T.
‘Fact’ - a thing that is known or proved to be true.
‘Known’ - within the scope of knowledge.
‘Proof’ - evidence establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
None of these criteria have been met with regard to any statement about the two handed forehand. It is entirely conjecture - with the odd off the wall claim.
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‘Known’ - within the scope of knowledge.
‘Proof’ - evidence establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
None of these criteria have been met with regard to any statement about the two handed forehand. It is entirely conjecture - with the odd off the wall claim.
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mad dog1
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We all know no one cares about facts. We all just care about winning and GD is a winner!
Gregory Diamond
Professional
I cant understand why you all fight with facts. Almost all women who used two handed forehand won grand slams in singles or doubles. I win almost all tournaments. What other proof do you need ?
Gregory Diamond
Professional
You can see in all my videos how effective two handed forehand is. You can play with precision you will never be able to achieve using one handed forehand. You see that there is no real problem with the shortened reach because your opponents are forced to run and they dont have time to exploit it. To the last moment they dont know where the ball will go. You dont even have to hit fast balls because hiding your intentions you take time from your opponents. Even when you are late you can hit the ball where you want because of short swing. There are almost no unforced errors so your opponents are forced to go for winners to win the point. They risk a lot and they lose.
3loudboys
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We all know no one cares about facts. We all just care about winning and GD is a winner!
Fake news
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3loudboys
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mad dog1
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So why don’t any of the top ATP pros use the 2hfh?
Gregory Diamond
Professional
Young players are forbidden to use two handed forehand in tennis clubs. Only weak girls are allowed because nobody expects them to achieve a success. And these weak girls (Seles, Bartoli, Hsieh,Peng) won grand slams.
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mad dog1
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So why don’t any of the top ATP pros use the 2hfh?
Gregory Diamond
Professional
I have just replied . Nobody wants to risk. There is no theory, no trainers.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Every winner of a men’s grand slam event for the past 20 years has played the 1hfh. We all know the 1hfh is the fh of the future. You must not want to win a grand slam.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
They won only because they played against weak players using one handed forehand.
You only proved that one handed forehand is better than one handed forehand.
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Pro Kenneth
Rookie
I'm not on the Diamond train exactly, but you make me wonder, why then is my two-handed backhand almost the same power as my one handed forehand? It is more reliable as well, as the stroke is more "technical". I remember reading on racquetresearch that the two handed shot was theoretically superior because of the rotational momentum, which is why baseball players use both hands. (Of course they are trying for distance and have a heavier ball and bat.) Though probably the rotational momentum is negated by the lower length of the fulcrum?
I still use a normal one-handed forehand as two handed on both sides felt clumsy, and the other hand on my forehand almost gets in the way, as the benefit of the two hander is most when only one side uses it. However I have used a two handed forehand on one point in match, just for fun and to try to throw off my opponents.
Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
You’re a very poor scientist.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
In the European test that tested the ability to analyze and synthesize , I had 60 out of 60. You are really funny.
Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
Your analysis is unsound. 0/60.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
My analysis allowed me to win 40 matches in tournaments since the beginning of May. I lost only 3. It is excellent result.
Dragy
Legend
Superior to what? As proper forehand fully utilizes "rotational momentum".
Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
Your analysis overestimates your results. If I can beat a one-legged man in a foot race running backwards, that does not mean running backward is superior to forward.
Pro Kenneth
Rookie
It means the rotational momentum is stronger with two hands because the frame is closer to our body, just why a baseball player hits with both hands. However the reach is not as good, nor is the lever/fulcrum/distance. I got this information/hypothesis from the old Racquet Reseach site.
My thought is the two hander rewards tight "core" muscles of the body and not the arms, since I know several women players who have good two handers that are better than their one handed. Perhaps if you have tight abs and weaker arms the two hander helps?
Gregory Diamond
Professional
The main advantage of two handed forehand is that it allows to absorb a lot of energy of approaching ball because of more firm grip..
Gregory Diamond
Professional
We cant discuss on the same level because you cant hit the ball using proper two handed forehand. I successfully used one handed forehand for 15 years. Even now when the ball is far from my body I use one handed forehand. I know everything about both. You only repeat false theories about two handed forehand.
Dragy
Legend
Actually, from theory standpoint, more range rewards rotational moment more. In practice we should consider if momentum of inertia of the arm slows down torso rotation to any singnificant degree. I don't have any proofs, but my opinion is - not that much. the actual issue is creating a strong link to deliver more-than-enough moment of force to counter increased moment of inertia from longer lever. Shoulder muscles and pecs are not strong enough to keep up with these powers with flexing, but fully-ESRed, locked shoulder deals with this just well with fully stretched muscles.
If we leave the theory and semi-practice grounds and discuss pure practice, good strokes from tour players are not always "potentially maxed out" ones. They are just good related to competition and within the enviroment and associated challenges (like opponent giving tough balls to play). Evidently one can deliver RHS with bent-arms, close to body 2HBH and produce heavy shots. As well as one can struggle with theoretically more effective strokes due to numerous reasons, including "not grooved enough" (where "enough" is 15 years of practice).
Gregory Diamond
Professional
Great progress today. I changed the grip of right and left hand. The racket is more closed. Left thumb is behind the handle. Right hand-western grip. Now right elbow more active. Still problems with low balls. Probably left hand should help to rise the right elbow if the ball is too low. It will be tested tomorrow.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
I feel like we’re getting somewhere with GD.Guys I think your time is much better used somewhere else
rogerroger917
Hall of Fame
But we all already agreed 2hfh is the future.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
We did, but then everyone changed their mind again after watching GD’s videos. Now we are all back to square one.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Sorry but we should all agree.EACH TIME YOU REPLY TO THIS THREAD, A BOTTLE OF BLANTON'S IS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET.
Damn, I just wasted another bottle.
Topspin Shot
Legend
This is a great crisis!EACH TIME YOU REPLY TO THIS THREAD, A BOTTLE OF BLANTON'S IS FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET.
Damn, I just wasted another bottle.
Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
fixed it for you
Gregory Diamond
Professional
Very wise comment.
Since the beginning of May I have won 8 tournamentes on national level and in 2 lost in the final. It proves that two handed forehand is the future of tennis.
I don’t think so because even if he is overweight and he can beat a two handed forehand person who think that two handed forehand is the future of tennis.
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Lol. Baseline will lose your energy during rallies.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
Only first several rallies might be difficult. I play greater angles so they run much more. Usually after that my opponents are so tired that they cant keep the ball in the court. Then it is only execution.
skaj
Legend
As a child they taught me to play with one hand, but later I included a two-handed forehand in my game. Not sure how and why, it wasn't a conscious decision, now I use two hands on that side predominately.
It is definitely easier to position for it. Maybe I have more control with it too, not sure.
On the run I use a one-hander, almost exclusively.
It is definitely easier to position for it. Maybe I have more control with it too, not sure.
On the run I use a one-hander, almost exclusively.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
Second video from yesterday`s practice. You can see that I use one handed forehand when the ball is far from my body. You see that I do it really rarely. It means that the problem with shortened reach is almost non-existent. We all agree that a good tennis player should be able to hit the ball using one handed or two handed forehand. It depends which shot is better in the moment. Players who cant hit the ball using two handed forehand have no choice. They are like disabled people. It is as if somebody didnt use volley or serve and tried to do it hitting one handed forehand. It would be just stupid. People who cant play two handed forehand are not real tennis players.
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Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
Stop saying “we all agree...”
Is it not clear to you that we don’t?
Is it not clear to you that we don’t?
Gregory Diamond
Professional
What in my last comment you disagree with ? Do you think that we should use one handed forehand when we usually play volleys or serves ?
Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
I disagree with you every time you claim “we all agree.” It is not true. You can spout whatever crackpot theories you have, but don’t try to validate them by falsely claiming other people’s support.
Gregory Diamond
Professional
You didnt answer my last question about volleys, serves and one handed forehand.
Saul Goode
Semi-Pro
And you haven’t responded to my request. I was first to ask.
Jannick
Rookie
This absolutely confirms that GD is just a troll. Not here to debate just to mess with us.
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