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sureshs

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Boys, I will be trying Typti today outdoors at 5 pm. A tennis coach here has procured 4 Typti rackets and balls and will be lending it to us for free for trying out the game on a Pickleball court.

As you know, I am a cheap guy who like free things.

If this works out, I might have to say Bye Bye Pickle to @ByeByePoly.

I was hit on the shoulder two weeks ago in Pickleball by a smash caused by a weak lob by my partner, and I don't want to wear safety goggles. Pickleball has reached an inflexion point where injuries are possible even though level of play is low. A good reason to move to Typti, other than the noise of course.
 
sureshs said:
Boys, I will be trying Typti today outdoors at 5 pm. A tennis coach here has procured 4 Typti rackets and balls and will be lending it to us for free for trying out the game on a Pickleball court.

As you know, I am a cheap guy who like free things.

If this works out, I might have to say Bye Bye Pickle to @ByeByePoly.

I was hit on the shoulder two weeks ago in Pickleball by a smash caused by a weak lob by my partner, and I don't want to wear safety goggles. Pickleball has reached an inflexion point where injuries are possible even though level of play is low. A good reason to move to Typti, other than the noise of course.
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Have fun … do one of those lame tipsy 2nd chance tip it with your hand things.

I bet a foam ball could damage a cornea also. I would never step on a pickleball court playing either game without eye protection. I only play indoors and was playing with clear non-prescription lenses in my Oakleys. Since then I have found Zenni glasses with their non-prescription Trivex anti glare lenses are even better for me. They would work for you … Zenni is cheap. Several of the ladies just wear full frame glasses with the lenses removed. One of the paddle reviewers tested pickleball ball direct impact on different types of glasses … and even with glasses there is some risk.

btw … the most dangerous players are the beginners that don’t have control of where they are hitting. Boomstik at the park in the hands of “that guy” is time to walk off the court. Pro players fear being on the court with rec players much more than with other pro players.

I look forward to the typsy first impressions report.
 
ByeByePoly said:
Have fun … do one of those lame tipsy 2nd chance tip it with your hand things.

I bet a foam ball could damage a cornea also. I would never step on a pickleball court playing either game without eye protection. I only play indoors and was playing with clear non-prescription lenses in my Oakleys. Since then I have found Zenni glasses with their non-prescription Trivex anti glare lenses are even better for me. They would work for you … Zenni is cheap. Several of the ladies just wear full frame glasses with the lenses removed. One of the paddle reviewers tested pickleball ball direct impact on different types of glasses … and even with glasses there is some risk.

btw … the most dangerous players are the beginners that don’t have control of where they are hitting. Boomstik at the park in the hands of “that guy” is time to walk off the court. Pro players fear being on the court with rec players much more than with other pro players.

I look forward to the typsy first impressions report.
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I wear prescription glasses so goggles difficult for me. I would take a foam ball hit than a pickelball hit any time.
 
ByeByePoly said:
Have fun … do one of those lame tipsy 2nd chance tip it with your hand things.

I bet a foam ball could damage a cornea also. I would never step on a pickleball court playing either game without eye protection. I only play indoors and was playing with clear non-prescription lenses in my Oakleys. Since then I have found Zenni glasses with their non-prescription Trivex anti glare lenses are even better for me. They would work for you … Zenni is cheap. Several of the ladies just wear full frame glasses with the lenses removed. One of the paddle reviewers tested pickleball ball direct impact on different types of glasses … and even with glasses there is some risk.

btw … the most dangerous players are the beginners that don’t have control of where they are hitting. Boomstik at the park in the hands of “that guy” is time to walk off the court. Pro players fear being on the court with rec players much more than with other pro players.

I look forward to the typsy first impressions report.
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This actually shows how badly designed the sport is, if it causes injuries in rec play on a small court. I think the founders thought it would be at the level of drinking pub table tennis or badminton on a driveway.
 
ByeByePoly said:
Do you still have to volley behind the kitchen line? If so, that makes no sense to me.

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I know there is confusion about this. The coach said no, and this is from your AI friend:

In TYPTI, you do not have to volley from behind the service line. Players are free to volley from anywhere on the court, including near the net. This unique rule allows for more aggressive play and eliminates the need to stay behind a line to attack the ball.

The players in the exho in the video probably did not know that.

But he also did not know that the serving side has to wait for the return to bounce, like Pickleball (otherwise if S&V was allowed, it would not be a game at all).

He also said that the second chance hit after hitting the net can be done by any part of the body and the frame of the racket but not the strings, which does not seem to be correct.

So, there is confusion and will be cleared up as more people play.
 
Please purchase your Typti rackets and balls from here (no @ByeByePoly don't even think)

TYPTI Warehouse - Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com www.tennis-warehouse.com

There is something unique about those rackets which no tennis manufacturer has ever thought of.

Here is an open challenge to you boys:

Zoom in on the picture of an OLO racket and tell me what this feature is. The coach was enamored of it.

The first person with the correct answer will have the chance to buy 4 of these (and balls) at his own cost and ship them to me for free.
 
sureshs said:
This actually shows how badly designed the sport is, if it causes injuries in rec play on a small court. I think the founders thought it would be at the level of drinking pub table tennis or badminton on a driveway.
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I've been hit in Table tennis by a smash that missed the table, the ball was so fast I had no time to even turn away but it didn't hurt. I could see it though causing damage in the eye socket b/c of the size of the ball.

I have been hit w/ a racquetball and that does sting.
I've been hit several times by tennis balls and never had a problem beyond the shock/surprise of being hit.

For PB, I only played once. I don't recall any smashes but groundstrokes didn't seem scary at all. No one got hit so I don't know if it would hurt. In some ways, I would think the ball being more solid and a bit larger than a tennis ball would make it less likely to cause an eye injury compared to a tennis ball or racquetball. I don't care for PB but I don't think it's a particularly dangerous activity.
 
Roforot said:
I've been hit in Table tennis by a smash that missed the table, the ball was so fast I had no time to even turn away but it didn't hurt. I could see it though causing damage in the eye socket b/c of the size of the ball.

I have been hit w/ a racquetball and that does sting.
I've been hit several times by tennis balls and never had a problem beyond the shock/surprise of being hit.

For PB, I only played once. I don't recall any smashes but groundstrokes didn't seem scary at all. No one got hit so I don't know if it would hurt. In some ways, I would think the ball being more solid and a bit larger than a tennis ball would make it less likely to cause an eye injury compared to a tennis ball or racquetball. I don't care for PB but I don't think it's a particularly dangerous activity.
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I have had a spinny table tennis ball catch me on my fingers and kind of grind it like a circular saw. Burns a lot.

But I think even the Typti foam ball will cause injuries if hit at your eyes by a careless/sadistic player. So I agree with @ByeByePoly on this.
 
Roforot said:
I've been hit in Table tennis by a smash that missed the table, the ball was so fast I had no time to even turn away but it didn't hurt. I could see it though causing damage in the eye socket b/c of the size of the ball.

I have been hit w/ a racquetball and that does sting.
I've been hit several times by tennis balls and never had a problem beyond the shock/surprise of being hit.

For PB, I only played once. I don't recall any smashes but groundstrokes didn't seem scary at all. No one got hit so I don't know if it would hurt. In some ways, I would think the ball being more solid and a bit larger than a tennis ball would make it less likely to cause an eye injury compared to a tennis ball or racquetball. I don't care for PB but I don't think it's a particularly dangerous activity.
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Pickleball balls often leave a mark that you find showering. :-D My knee has bled twice from overheads. Small court, Lifetime ball and new power paddles like the Boomstik keeps you alert.

You could lose a cornea for sure.

@43:41

 
ByeByePoly said:
Pickleball balls often leave a mark that you find showering. :-D My knee has bled twice from overheads. Small court, Lifetime ball and new power paddles like the Boomstik keeps you alert.

You could lose a cornea for sure.

@43:41

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Some people were playing Pickleball on an adjacent court while we were playing Typti.

I felt sorry for them.

Of course they were not aware of us as we were not making loud obnoxious sounds.
 
Typti seems kinda weird and too expensive for me. Also seems typti balls are lower quality vs touchtennis. You know a rlly good alternative? Using pickleball paddle with touchtennis balls. The balls last longer and the spring isnt too much as the ball naturally asks like strings on its own. Don't need Strings + foam ball for too much trampoline feel.

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MarinaHighTennis said:
Typti seems kinda weird and too expensive for me. Also seems typti balls are lower quality vs touchtennis. You know a rlly good alternative? Using pickleball paddle with touchtennis balls. The balls last longer and the spring isnt too much as the ball naturally asks like strings on its own. Don't need Strings + foam ball for too much trampoline feel.

Videos of Play:

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Nah the feel of strings is a must. We want to use Typti as a progression for beginner tennis players and a fallback on rainy days or when slightly injured.
 
sureshs said:
Please purchase your Typti rackets and balls from here (no @ByeByePoly don't even think)

TYPTI Warehouse - Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com www.tennis-warehouse.com

There is something unique about those rackets which no tennis manufacturer has ever thought of.

Here is an open challenge to you boys:

Zoom in on the picture of an OLO racket and tell me what this feature is. The coach was enamored of it.

The first person with the correct answer will have the chance to buy 4 of these (and balls) at his own cost and ship them to me for free.
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Up/Down serve choice
 
sureshs said:
Scoring is weird but takes just a game or two to get used to it. The special racket size and string pattern makes sense. The ball bounces much higher than Pickleball so no back pain.
Can't wait for this to replace Pickleball

@ByeByePoly @Chas Tennis @SystemicAnomaly @Crocodile @afalls
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@Crocodile @ByeByePoly @afalls @Chas Tennis

What is the approx string tension on a current (official) Typti racket?

I recently purchased two 22” Racquetball rackets (Head CPS Heat). They have a fairly open string pattern for the top half (esp the top third) of the frame. But their string pattern might still not be quite as open as a true Typti racket.

As is, these Head Racquetball rackets have a strung weight of only 204 grams (7.2 oz). They appear to be evenly balanced or slightly HL. I’ve picked up some lead (Pb) tape from a golf shop (somewhat thicker / heavier and cheaper than Pb tape from tennis shops).

I intend to add about 50g to 60g to each racket and make them somewhat HH. However, I suspect that these pre-strung R’ball frames might have a lower string tension than optimal.

Not sure if TT carries any racquetball rackets. Another option might be 21” or 23” junior tennis rackets. However, these frames tend to be too light (even for jr tennis, IMO). And their string patterns are bit too dense (closed) for optimal Typti play. The Head R’ball rackets that I purchased run about $20 to $25 USD.

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sureshs said:
Please purchase your Typti rackets and balls from here (no @ByeByePoly don't even think)

TYPTI Warehouse - Tennis Warehouse

www.tennis-warehouse.com www.tennis-warehouse.com

There is something unique about those rackets which no tennis manufacturer has ever thought of.

Here is an open challenge to you boys:

Zoom in on the picture of an OLO racket and tell me what this feature is. The coach was enamored of it.

The first person with the correct answer will have the chance to buy 4 of these (and balls) at his own cost and ship them to me for free.
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Too damn expensive. While I did order some Typti balls from TW, I’m not inclined to spend $200 USD (or even $150) for each Typti racket. I’ve never even spent that much on a new, quality tennis racket (most have been $100 to $180).

For a sport that I may or may not enjoy or even able to play (given my disabilities), spending $300 to $400 for 2 Typti rackets is not something I’m willing to do.

In my neck of the woods, Pickleball started being taught in local high schools some 20 years ago. With cheap wooden paddles. Now even middle schools in the area offer P’ball in PE classes. In some cases, tennis is no longer taught in PE classes (even 1 or 2 community colleges in the area no longer PE tennis) Sadly, P’ball has replaced Tennis in many school PE classes. This makes sense since PE classes in HS and middle school only spend 2 to 4 weeks on each sport… Not enuff time for tennis for most students.

No schools, even community colleges, will spend $150-$200 for each Typti racket for their classes. Needs to be an option that costs no more than $30 (or $20) for each implement.
 
ByeByePoly said:
Do you still have to volley behind the kitchen line? If so, that makes no sense to me.

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Apparently, there is no kitchen (NVZ) per se in Typti. The “kitchen” line is only used as a short service line, similar to the short service line in badminton — except that badminton line is 6.5 feet from the net rather than 7 feet (as it is in P’ball & Typti).

For a Typti serve, the ball must land past the short service line. But I don’t know if a serve that hits this line is considered “good” or a fault. For P’ball, a serve hitting the line is a fault whereas a serve hitting that line in badminton is considered valid / good.

In both Badminton and P’ball, a serve clipping the net is considered good/ playable. I would expect Typti to follow suit.
 
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SystemicAnomaly said:
Apparently, there is no kitchen (NVZ) per se in Typti. The “kitchen” line is only used as a short service line, similar to the short service line in badminton — except that badminton line is 6.5 feet from the net rather than 7 feet (as it is in P’ball.

For a Typti serve, the ball must land past the short service line. But I don’t know if a serve that hits this line is considered “good” or a fault. For P’ball, a serve hitting the line is a fault whereas a serve hitting that line in badminton is considered valid / good.

In both Badminton and P’ball, a serve clipping the net is considered good/ playable. I would expect Typti to follow suit.
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In rec pb let serves are good to go … in pros they re-serve.

There will need to be entry Typti racket prices or the sport won’t grow. Assuming my Lifetime indoor facility would allow it, I could see four from my new pickleball tribe that came from tennis trying it out of curiosity. That is when you would know Typti has made it … when the indoor pickleball facilities are pushing it.
 
MarinaHighTennis said:
Typti seems kinda weird and too expensive for me. Also seems typti balls are lower quality vs touchtennis. You know a rlly good alternative? Using pickleball paddle with touchtennis balls. The balls last longer and the spring isnt too much as the ball naturally asks like strings on its own. Don't need Strings + foam ball for too much trampoline feel.

Videos of Play:

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A 19” aluminum racquet works too!
 
SystemicAnomaly said:
Too damn expensive. While I did order some Typti balls from TW, I’m not inclined to spend $200 USD (or even $150) for each Typti racket. I’ve never even spent that much on a new, quality tennis racket (most have been $100 to $180).

For a sport that I may or may not enjoy or even able to play (given my disabilities), spending $300 to $400 for 2 Typti rackets is not something I’m willing to do.

In my neck of the woods, Pickleball started being taught in local high schools some 20 years ago. With cheap wooden paddles. Now even middle schools in the area offer P’ball in PE classes. In some cases, tennis is no longer taught in PE classes (even 1 or 2 community colleges in the area no longer PE tennis) Sadly, P’ball has replaced Tennis in many school PE classes. This makes sense since PE classes in HS and middle school only spend 2 to 4 weeks on each sport… Not enuff time for tennis for most students.

No schools, even community colleges, will spend $150-$200 for each Typti racket for their classes. Needs to be an option that costs no more than $30 (or $20) for each implement.
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That may actually be the Chinese price.
 
SystemicAnomaly said:
For a Typti serve, the ball must land past the short service line. But I don’t know if a serve that hits this line is considered “good” or a fault. For P’ball, a serve hitting the line is a fault whereas a serve hitting that line in badminton is considered valid / good.
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Great question. It is a fault in Typti, just like in Pickleball.
 
ByeByePoly said:
In rec pb let serves are good to go … in pros they re-serve.

There will need to be entry Typti racket prices or the sport won’t grow. Assuming my Lifetime indoor facility would allow it, I could see four from my new pickleball tribe that came from tennis trying it out of curiosity. That is when you would know Typti has made it … when the indoor pickleball facilities are pushing it.
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ByeByePoly said:
Do you still have to volley behind the kitchen line? If so, that makes no sense to me.

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These guys are using a kitchen line rule and look how difficult it is to win points or even work their way to the net for the team on defense.

Imagine if these guys on offense were a foot from the net. It wouldn't be fun to play.

I imagine if this ever catches on, the kitchen line rule will be an option for advanced players.
 
Bud said:
These guys are using a kitchen line rule and look how difficult it is to win points or even work their way to the net for the team on defense.

Imagine if these guys on offense were a foot from the net. It wouldn't be fun to play.

I imagine if this ever catches on, the kitchen line rule will be an option for advanced players.
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I favor it too. Evens out the height advantage a little too.

I would also add the overhead serve as an option, but with the change that it must land inside the box (like tennis).

This will make it a complete tennis-like practice.
 
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These guys are using a kitchen line rule and look how difficult it is to win points or even work their way to the net for the team on defense.

Imagine if these guys on offense were a foot from the net. It wouldn't be fun to play.

I imagine if this ever catches on, the kitchen line rule will be an option for advanced players.
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For me that depends on how much topspin you can produce. I was a s&v tournament tennis singles player, and there were many s&v players then. We all wanted to close tight to the net, the topspin lob was the counter measure. I developed both the high spinny topspin lob and the lower trajectory point ending type. With current pb spin limits I can hit that lower trajectory topspin lob but court is small and margins are tight (not to mention the line calls). Just guessing … probably a 50% shot for me which is too much error playing against equal opponents. My guess is pb 3000 rpm rather than the current 2000-2400 and that low high speed/spin lob becomes low error.

All of that is to make the point about Typti racket/strings/ball rpm. I would know in first couple of topspin lobs if it can be high percentage on the small court or not. A high percentage would force players to back off the net some.

I also wonder if it is as easy to target one opponent like pb. It is unlikely two team members will both have that penetrating lob unless they both came from tennis.
 
The next Olympics has already added flag football.

Perhaps they should add a few other categories that are easier for amateurs.
Some suggestions:
  • 1-on-1 Nerf basketball on 7-foot high hoops.
  • diving from 1 meter diving board
  • 10 meter freestyle swimming with fins and floaty boards allowed to help with floatation.
  • Typti
  • WWE-style wrestling. (judging based on style & flourish)
  • fencing (not the one with a sharp metal stick, but building a creative fence within 30 minutes out of lego blocks)
  • miniature golf
 
A tennis coach I know tried Typti today and said it was silly. I have asked him how he compares it with Pickleball, which he plays.

He replied:
I like the feel of a tennis ball or even pickle ball better. It’s too spongy soft and like swinging at air.
 
sureshs said:
A tennis coach I know tried Typti today and said it was silly. I have asked him how he compares it with Pickleball, which he plays.

He replied:
I like the feel of a tennis ball or even pickle ball better. It’s too spongy soft and like swinging at air.
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That's what I noticed in the above video. Seems difficult to get any momentum behind the ball to force a volley error.

Will have to try it soon and see for myself.
 
sureshs said:
A tennis coach I know tried Typti today and said it was silly. I have asked him how he compares it with Pickleball, which he plays.

He replied:
I like the feel of a tennis ball or even pickle ball better. It’s too spongy soft and like swinging at air.
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I was going to ask the owner of my local indoor pb facility if he was ok with 4 of us ex-tennis players trying Typti on one of the courts (probably off hours). But what is the point … no access to demo rackets. I suspect the Typti $ has tried contacting pb clubs offering demo equipment. I also am guessing most would say no … it’s a pickleball only club … why dilute the pb gold rush. Perhaps they would have some luck in areas where too many facilities have been built and pb growth slows down.

I will ask the owner when I see him next what his thoughts on it would be. I would think a Typti match right next to a pb match wouldn’t mix well. Also … does that foam ball invade neighboring courts more often.
 
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ByeByePoly said:
I was going to ask the owner of my local indoor pb facility if he was ok with 4 of us ex-tennis players trying Typti on one of the courts (probably off hours). But what is the point … no access to demo rackets. I suspect the Typti $ has tried contacting pb clubs offering demo equipment. I also am guessing most would say no … it’s a pickleball only club … why dilute the pb gold rush. Perhaps they would have some luck in areas where too many facilities have been built and pb growth slows down.

I will ask the owner when I see him next what his thoughts on it would be. I would think a Typti match right next to a pb match wouldn’t mix well. Also … does that foam ball invade neighboring courts more often.
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No, its movement kind of dies down fast as it has very little mass to provide much momentum
 
sureshs said:
A tennis coach I know tried Typti today and said it was silly. I have asked him how he compares it with Pickleball, which he plays.

He replied:
I like the feel of a tennis ball or even pickle ball better. It’s too spongy soft and like swinging at air.
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a touchtennis ball is actually denser/heavier than a pickleball. You get that nice thud when you hit it.
 
MarinaHighTennis said:
the problem with strings is that it shreds the balls and you end up breathing particles. That's why i prefer the paddle. Want these balls to last as long as I can.
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that is true....one time we used shaped poly and it was insane...but we do usually change out the balls when the time comes...wish they werent as expensive as they are
 
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