Ugliest tennis racquet ever contest

gsquicksilver

Semi-Pro
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Originally Posted by gsquicksilver
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i actually have this racquet. do you guys know if it is worth anything?

I'll buy it off ya! Email me at gaseous_snake@hotmail.com

Go on, you know you want to. Look at it, it's soooooooooo ugly!


how come i have this feeling i'm gonna get low balled?;) honestly, i'd like to get a good estimate on how much one of these would go for in the market before i make any decisions on whether to sell it or not.
 

sypl

Rookie
how come i have this feeling i'm gonna get low balled?;) honestly, i'd like to get a good estimate on how much one of these would go for in the market before i make any decisions on whether to sell it or not.

The price it'd go for came up for discussion a while back (from a question from, er, me). Here's the thread and here are the relevant posts.

Now, are ya ready to sell? :-D

How did you come across yours? If you've any info about it the post it here.
 

joe sch

Legend
As I recall, Madeline Haptman of MadRaq fame and now the founder and president of PowerAngle rackets got her stringing idea from a set of snowshoes hanging on her wall....

I second the T2000 as being ugly. They feel cheap and I can't stand to look at them.

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I took your photo Joe......Nice string patches on the second one from the right....

VGP, Nice bit of trivia about the MadRaq, Madeline has some unusual racket ideas. Nice spot on that T4000 patch, lots easier than restringing and somethings that lots of players did when sting jobs were not soo cheap, like expensive guts with premature breaks.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
The stringing pattern [of the Blackburne] is legal, but I suppose you could string one side looser than the other (either on purpose or by accident - i.e. flying clamps as opposed to fixed ones) and one side could have more string rebound than the other side.....

Actually, that's not a bad idea. If you weighted it up to high swingweight You could string one side for max power, and use it for serves and heavy groundstrokes. The other side could be strung at 75 lbs so that you can hit precision volleys on a dime. You could then hit groundstroke like Safin but still volley like Sampras!

If a pro did tried this, it would promptly put Blackburne out of business, because the ITF would be forced to outlaw the design. Only hard part would be using the same side of the racquet for forehand and backhand volleys - maybe you could adjust.
 
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intense2b

Banned
The MAD racquet is worth a lot!!! Its currently accepted in 2 museums. The Hall of Fame at Wimbledon and the hall of fame in the USA.

The inventor Madeline Hauptman has a few left and she is selling them for $500 bucks a piece. The one that you have in the photo os very rare and I have not seen that one recently.

I know a lot about this racquet and company so if you have any questions then ask away!
 
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JW10S

Hall of Fame
The racquet is worth a lot!!! Its currently accepted in 2 museums. The Hall of Fame at Wimbledon and the hall of fame in the USA.

The inventor Madeline Hauptman has a few left and she is selling them for $500 bucks a piece. The one that you have in the photo os very rare and I have not seen that one recently.

I know a lot about this racquet and company so if you have any questions then ask away!
Huh? That racquet was a promotional racquet put out by Prince. It went along with the introduction of the 'Extender' racquets. They were given out to Prince dealers. There was a commercial that went with it saying that only God could play with a racquet that small--mere mortals needed the Extender.
 

intense2b

Banned
As I recall, Madeline Haptman of MadRaq fame and now the founder and president of PowerAngle rackets got her stringing idea from a set of snowshoes hanging on her wall....

You are correct . That is exactly where Madeline got the idea from. First Chicago bank used to run and ad pointing that fact out...but thats another story.

Heres a bit of trivia ...can you name an ATP player that played with the Mad Raq?

The Mad raq is an incredible stick but it was unsuccesful for several reasons. Sometimes if a product is just too good it cannot be succesful. That is exactly the situation with the Mad Raq. The strings virtually never break. Racquet stringers and stringing companies are very against that! Most stores would not even carry it. Therefore Madeline was forced to come out with the Power Angle instead.

Another problem was Dunlop. You see Dunlop marketed the racquet and came out with the "Dunlop Mcenroe Mad Raq" but they marketed it as a low end gimmick and sold it in Kmart . This was devastating to the Mad Raq as serious players would not be caught dead with a Kmart racquet. (If you want to buy the Dunlop Mcenroe Mad Raq go here: http://www.woodtennis.com/newMetal/newMetal.html )

I can tell you that I have played with the racquet and it is a legitimate weapon. I have met Madeline and she has told me that her plan is to first have people accept the Power Angle into mainstream. Once people like the Power Angle then she will slowly introduce the Mad Raq under a different name. Hopefully this time people will have an open mind.
 
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intense2b

Banned
Apart from being against the rules.....that Blackburne racket had to be a real pain to string.

I suppose you'd have to string one side and then flip it over, remount and string again.


Its completely legal and USTA and ITF approved. You can check out the approvals on the website at; www.blackburneds.com

It is a real pain to string...but you only break the strings half of the time.
 

intense2b

Banned
You are correct . That is exactly where Madeline got the idea from. First Chicago bank used to run and ad pointing that fact out...but thats another story.

Heres a bit of trivia ...can you name an ATP player that played with the Mad Raq?

The Mad raq is an incredible stick but it was unsuccesful for several reasons. Sometimes if a product is just too good it cannot be succesful. That is exactly the situation with the Mad Raq. The strings virtually never break. Racquet stringers and stringing companies are very against that! Most stores would not even carry it. Therefore Madeline was forced to come out with the Power Angle instead.

Another problem was Dunlop. You see Dunlop marketed the racquet and came out with the "Dunlop Mcenroe Mad Raq" but they marketed it as a low end gimmick and sold it in Kmart . This was devastating to the Mad Raq as serious players would not be caught dead with a Kmart racquet. (If you want to buy the Dunlop Mcenroe Mad Raq go here: http://www.woodtennis.com/newMetal/newMetal.html )

I can tell you that I have played with the racquet and it is a legitimate weapon. I have met Madeline and she has told me that her plan is to first have people accept the Power Angle into mainstream. Once people like the Power Angle then she will slowly introduce the Mad Raq under a different name. Hopefully this time people will have an open mind.


didnt want this to get lost
 

sypl

Rookie
What's so good about this madraq? Apart from the fact that it looks pretty cool of course. How does it offer any performance enhancement?

I would have thought the denser string pattern would make spin more difficult.
 

coachrick

Hall of Fame
A new candidate: The Wilson Legacy
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Not to hijack but I have a 9/10 Legacy if anyone wants to add to their collection.

BTW, you can make the Taxi really ugly if you string with a red/blue hybrid and use a pink gripsy from the late 80s...my mixed partner did just that and called it her UglyStick.
 
How much for the Legacy, coachrick?
It's heinous allright. I just want to string it up, hit with it twice, then put it up between a couple of Roland Garros posters in the junk room (aka, 'the study').
 
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intense2b

Banned
What's so good about this madraq? Apart from the fact that it looks pretty cool of course. How does it offer any performance enhancement?

I would have thought the denser string pattern would make spin more difficult.

I dont know where to begin. I will post a review of the racquet shortly.

This string system proved superior to conventional stringing in Weldon Labrotory tests by reducing vibration, enlarging power zone, increasing control and prolonging string life.

There is much more but I will get to that in my post.

As far as your question about spin....I could spend quite some time on that. Suffice it to say that experts all disagree on what actually causes spin. Whether a Denser pattern or a more open pattern or even whether strings have any affect at all is all up for debate.

Personally I agree with the Brody school of thought that it is head speed that actually causes more spin. Therefore the tighter you string the racquet the more head speed you can create and still keep the ball in. With this pattern the strings simply do not move. I have them strung at 50 and they feel like 60! The spin I am able to create is immense. This of course has not been scientifically proven as the above claims were proven.
 
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superstition

Hall of Fame
As far as your question about spin....I could spend quite some time on that. Suffice it to say that experts all disagree on what actually causes spin. Whether a Denser pattern or a more open pattern or even whether strings have any affect at all is all up for debate. Personally I agree with the Brody school of thought that it is head speed that actually causes more spin. Therefore the tighter you string the racquet the more head speed you can create and still keep the ball in. With this pattern the strings simply do not move. I have them strung at 50 and they feel like 60! The spin I am able to create is immense. This of course has not been scientifically proven as the above claims were proven.
Loose string creates stronger underspin (slice).
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
I like the MadRaq's Star of David look to it's strings.
Yeah, it hardly qualifies as a candidate for ugliest racquet ever, with things like that Wilson Legacy being in contention.

Here's a piece of trivia for you. I read an article that said astronomers believe a comet was the "Star of David". I don't remember which comet it was, though.
 

intense2b

Banned
Loose string creates stronger underspin (slice).


Some people believe that. I used to be one of them. The truth is no one is sure.

I personally completely disagree that looser strings create more spin.

In fact I agree with the brody school of thought. In his acclaimed book "The Physics of tennis" Brody says that it is actually the speed in which you swing your racquet that causes spin. The faster the swing the greater the spin.

Therefore following that line of logic.....if you string tighter you are able to swing very hard and still kepp the ball in thus creating more spin. On the other hand if you swing very hard with loose string the ball will sail over the fence.
 

superstition

Hall of Fame
Some people believe that. I used to be one of them. The truth is no one is sure.
I'm sure when it comes to slice that looser string, to a point, helps. The looser the string, the "junkier" the result.

You can subscribe to whatever book's viewpoint you want to, but my position on the issue, which I'm sure of at this point, is that a looser tension produces more underspin.
 

intense2b

Banned
I'm sure when it comes to slice that looser string, to a point, helps. The looser the string, the "junkier" the result.

You can subscribe to whatever book's viewpoint you want to, but my position on the issue, which I'm sure of at this point, is that a looser tension produces more underspin.


Brody's Physics of tennis is considered the "Bible" on this topic. I am not saying you are wrong...I am just letting you know who you are disagreeing with.
 

coachrick

Hall of Fame
How much for the Legacy, coachrick?
It's heinous allright. I just want to string it up, hit with it twice, then put it up between a couple of Roland Garros posters in the junk room (aka, 'the study').

My plan was to build a display area of rackets from the early 1900s until 'modern' times...too many other projects...the Legacy has been sitting with the other sticks. It is a 5/8 Light, strung with what looks like amber Staytite nylon, original grip, oddly enough 'MADE IN USA' ! I'd say $60 shipped to the lower 48 is fair. Let me know if you are interested.
 

thomas martinez

Professional
No it does not put it over the legal limit because of the throat bridge they go through. There was a British player by the name of Jo Durie who played with them on tour back in the 80s/90s.
 
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