Ultimate Alpha Male Player?

Which player best embodies Alpha Male image?

  • Sampras

    Votes: 37 25.0%
  • Safin

    Votes: 56 37.8%
  • Tsonga

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Roddick

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • Kyrgios

    Votes: 7 4.7%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 20 13.5%
  • Borg

    Votes: 18 12.2%

  • Total voters
    148

Clay lover

Legend
Alpha =/= bad boy. I want someone to exude confidence but also conduct himself by taking into consideration the interests of others and not fretting over the petty stuff. Shouldn't a true alpha, who's supposed to be a group leader, be like that?

So not Connors. Safin and Phillipoussiss for their physiques and general swagger maybe but they also have their tantrums .I prefer someone who's more composed and gets the job done (and still looks alpha) like Moya.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
Alpha =/= bad boy. I want someone to exude confidence but also conduct himself by taking into consideration the interests of others and not fretting over the petty stuff. Shouldn't a true alpha, who's supposed to be a group leader, be like that?

So not Connors. Safin and Phillipoussiss for their physiques and general swagger maybe but they also have their tantrums .I prefer someone who's more composed and gets the job done (and still looks alpha) like Moya.

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TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
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Did he ever light it?
He smokes the competition, not cigars.
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Alpha =/= bad boy. I want someone to exude confidence but also conduct himself by taking into consideration the interests of others and not fretting over the petty stuff. Shouldn't a true alpha, who's supposed to be a group leader, be like that?

So not Connors. Safin and Phillipoussiss for their physiques and general swagger maybe but they also have their tantrums .I prefer someone who's more composed and gets the job done (and still looks alpha) like Moya.
This. Posturing and acting aggressive all the time is a beta trait.
 

bhpower

Semi-Pro
Safin was always whining about everthing, smashing rackets, always negative.
Thats not what I call an Alpha male.
 

Miki 1234

Semi-Pro
Top tennis players cant be alpha males by definition since their goal is to be top tennis player not alpha.
There has not been a single fight in atp ever .
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Top tennis players cant be alpha males by definition since their goal is to be top tennis player not alpha.
There has not been a single fight in atp ever .
Wawrinka and Kyrgios got into a locker room fight after Kyrgios insulted Stan's GF during the match.
 

landcookie

Semi-Pro
Tsitsipas strikes me as a sigma male type. More laid back, philosophical, thoughtful guy who isn't exactly an imposing alpha but not an average beta either.
Definitely a sigma off court. Though his actions on court definitely strike me as alpha. He carries a certain swagger, always wants to win, plays offense, imposes himself, never backs down, and raises the intensity when things get tough.

Medvedev on the other hand, may qualify as a sigma with all his disruptive antics and is probably more of an enigma on court.

Safin is definitely alpha.
IDK if Sampras is alpha, he kind of does his own thing on court and doesn't bother too much about imposing himself. His confidence stems from an understanding of his ability: if I'm on, I'll beat anyone. Sigma maybe?
 

King No1e

G.O.A.T.
Definitely a sigma off court. Though his actions on court definitely strike me as alpha. He carries a certain swagger, always wants to win, plays offense, imposes himself, never backs down, and raises the intensity when things get tough.

Medvedev on the other hand, may qualify as a sigma with all his disruptive antics and is probably more of an enigma on court.

Safin is definitely alpha.
IDK if Sampras is alpha, he kind of does his own thing on court and doesn't bother too much about imposing himself. His confidence stems from an understanding of his ability: if I'm on, I'll beat anyone. Sigma maybe?
What you described in Sampras is perfect Alpha IMO. Quiet confidence and assurance that he's the best, without rubbing it in people's faces.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
I'd give it to Sampras or Borg, with Safin in 3rd probably. Please tell me no one voted for Kyrgios. He's a little boy mentally. Both on and off the court.
 

Rocket54

New User
I was watching Safin/Fed 05 highlights the other night and was impressed—not just by high level of play but by Marat’s entire shtick. The guy had an imposing physique, a poker face, amazing gf, and was just oozing confidence in court. He was NOT afraid of the GOAT across the net.
However, Sampras, Roddick, Kyrgios, Tsonga and others could make their cases as well.
So which player stands out as biggest Alpha Male?
Note: This isn’t about best player. It’s about confidence, bravado, girlfriends/wives, the whole shebang!
Kyrgios alpha male??? Was he on the list as a joke?
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
None that you listed are ideal as front-runners.
  • Sampras - too introvert to be a raging alpha, too boring to inspire lower males to go into battle
  • Safin - too unstable, too quick to give up, unable to problem-solve
  • Tsonga - not clutch enough
  • Roddick - if he had won W09, maybe, but he didn't
  • Kyrgios - he is more like a delta male on a fantasy power-trip of being an alpha (this is very common, but usually among short guys)
  • Borg - too introverted, too meek in the way he speaks, not bright enough
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
None that you listed are ideal as front-runners.
  • Sampras - too introvert to be a raging alpha, too boring to inspire lower males to go into battle
  • Safin - too unstable, too quick to give up, unable to problem-solve
  • Tsonga - not clutch enough
  • Roddick - if he had won W09, maybe, but he didn't
  • Kyrgios - he is more like a delta male on a fantasy power-trip of being an alpha (this is very common, but usually among short guys)
  • Borg - too introverted, too meek in the way he speaks, not bright enough
so who’s on your list?
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
so who’s on your list?
Rafa, maybe Djokovic. Becker - before he retired.

Lendl, in a way. Gonzalez if only he'd won one of his bigger finales.

Villas also.

Muster.

Alphas fight wars of attrition, they don't get victories on a plate due to easy aces and servebot play. And they need to be generally dominant in finales, plus be confident in front of the press, put dumb sports journalists in their place when they say/ask dumb things.
 

skaj

Legend
Rafa, maybe Djokovic. Becker - before he retired.

Lendl, in a way. Gonzalez if only he'd won one of his bigger finales.

Villas also.

Muster.

Alphas fight wars of attrition, they don't get victories on a plate due to easy aces and servebot play. And they need to be generally dominant in finales, plus be confident in front of the press, put dumb sports journalists in their place when they say/ask dumb things.

Yes, Djokoloco the clown is more of an alpha male than Borg, Sampras, Safin, Tsonga...

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UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
What did you do again, dear? Said that Djokoloco is alpha male? I didn't see it.
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If I continue replying you might have a full-fledged fit.

I'd better stop.

(Btw, a typical alpha male is confident enough to make himself look silly by dressing up as a clown. An insecure beta can't.)
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Did you see his 2007 USO kit (or any of his USO kits)?

Fed just has a classy, regal, confident attitude on and off the court. He owns the game and he seems to know it, especially back in his prime. Very James Bond-esque.
Before the Rafa and the guy in your avatar took away the innocence...
Had 2008-2009 Not happened Fed was on the list.
But Fed was also kinda geeky. Look at him in early interviews. Was shy and nervous.
 

skaj

Legend
If I continue replying you might have a full-fledged fit.

I'd better stop.

(Btw, a typical alpha male is confident enough to make himself look silly by dressing up as a clown. An insecure beta can't.)

I have no idea what you are talkin about, something odd is happening in your head I guess.
(Btw, alpha male doesn't act silly in order to get attention he wants so desperately)
 

Thetouch

Professional
Good topic but the "alpha male" definition has been changed and adapted so many times that nowadays every man calls himself an alpha for different reasons. Some (wannabe) bad boys think they are alpha just because they are loud and outgoing and then there are men who are calm and never show any emotions and they call themselves alpha too. And then there are men who show emotions and display stoic strength at the "right" moments and they think of themselves as alphas as well.

You can display many traits for tennis too. I guess Ivanisevic was someone who players wouldn't have wanted to mess with physically. Becker was kind of an alpha male too because despite him showing losts of emotions he blamed himself mostly not his rivals and refs (unlike McEnroe for intstance). Sampras and Borg can be viewed as alphas just because they went on no matter what. Sampras has won some tough matches where he wasn't phyiscally and mentally well (twice against Courier at the US and AO, Corretja) etc.

But here is my personal favourite: Brad Gilbert.^^

In 1990 during the CGS Cup he faced David Wheaten and they both almost got at it. Gilbert not only threaned Wheaton but he also threatened his brother, he wanted to beat them up both (even though the article doesn't imply that). I remember watching it then and was fascinated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch.../tennis/319689d7-c126-4552-83c3-560a566821a1/

Brad Gilbert and David Wheaton nearly had a fight today before Gilbert won a five-set battle to reach Sunday's final of the Grand Slam Cup against Pete Sampras.

The incident between Gilbert and Wheaton occurred after the third-set tiebreaker, following a dispute over a call that went against Gilbert, but was overruled by the chair umpire.

At the end of the changeover, the players exchanged words, pushed each other and had to be separated by Farrar and other officials. Both were given warnings for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Wheaton said the incident started when Gilbert went to Farrar because Wheaton's brother, John, had been shouting at the umpire during the changeover and complaining about the decision.

"Brad said something about my brother I didn't like," Wheaton said. "I can't even remember what it was. I told him to withdraw his remarks.

"If he had thrown the first punch, I would have been pretty happy."

"He started crying and whining, like a child, and he got his way," Wheaton said.

Gilbert said he had not heard the umpire overrule the call. He said Wheaton's brother had no business walking around the court complaining about the call.

Gilbert said Wheaton had apologized after the match and they shook hands at the net.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
I have no idea what you are talkin about, something odd is happening in your head I guess.
(Btw, alpha male doesn't act silly in order to get attention he wants so desperately)
(You don't seem to really understand alphas, betas, gammas nor deltas, and it's not because you can't speak Greek.)
 

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
I think Djokovic when he was at his mentally strongest, as much as I hate to say it.

Rafa/Pete/Borg too introverted/meek.
 
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