Uncle Toni unleashes on Djoker as "selfish"

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The higher you rise in your career, the more your relative lack of control rankles. That applies to all of the Big Three, in different ways.
 

Beckerserve

Legend
What third wheel are you talking about here? o_O:mad:(n) Djoker is the current World No. 1.
Past 15 years he is the 3rd wheel. Federer is the heavyweight champion. If you talking about recency then last YE1 was Nadal so he is heavyweight defending champion. Either way it is not Djokovic.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
He is doing it for money! He is struggling of course.

Djoker is not struggling. He is almost as well off as Fed and Rafa.

According to Bart's theory, Djoker is doing it to rescue the struggling players from the establishment . Who are the establishment? It is Fed and Rafa who are in bed with the huge corporate conglomerates that have been screwing over the players for years.

And what does Djoker receive? Control. Control is the primary motivation.

If money was his motivation, it would be easier for Djoker to just jump in bed with Fedal and their corporate masters.
 
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clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Fedal fans - I know it’s hard but please use your brains on this one, I promise you that you’ll figure it out.
This conversation has been going on for years, that's why Rafa resigned as vice president of the Players' Council because he said no one listened to him. Rafa was very instrumental in increasing the prize money for the earlier rounds. Djokovic has done his best to push the ATP even getting rid of the Chairman, to no avail. It seems like mission impossible and from what I can see of the PTPA, they will be just as toothless as the Players' Council.


New York Times
By Christopher Clarey
  • Jan. 15, 2012
Nadal Unmasks Rift With Federer

After a long, often contentious search, the A.T.P. Tour finally named a new chief executive in December: Brad Drewett. Though a compromise candidate, Drewett has advantages over the past two tour leaders — Etienne de Villiers and Adam Helfant — in that he is a former tour professional and a longtime A.T.P. executive. That means he already knows a great deal about men’s tennis and its fault lines, and the divides were in evidence again at the annual players’ meeting in Melbourne on Saturday night.

It was an emotional occasion with Nadal and Andy Roddick and other speakers drawing extended applause and with growing support for pushing the Grand Slam tournaments to dedicate a greater percentage of their revenues to the players. While regular tour events routinely commit more than 30 percent of revenue to prize money, players claim that despite prize money increases, the Grand Slam event percentages remain considerably lower.

“They’re tired of the Grand Slams having the greatest deal in sport,” said a tour official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
“They’re tired of the Grand Slams having the greatest deal in sport,” said a tour official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

which sounds like an attempt to take over ITF cash flow, as GS are ruled by ITF
while some were claiming here something about corporate soldiers
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
SPORTS NEWS
JANUARY 17, 2018 / 11:43 AM / 3 YEARS AGO
Nadal says lower-ranked players need more money

Ian Ransom

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - World number one Rafa Nadal voiced his support for players to demand a greater share of tennis revenues, saying that more lower-ranked professionals should be able to make a living from the sport.

Nadal’s comments follow media reports this week that Novak Djokovic, the president of the Players’ Council, had urged players to unionise at a pre-Australian Open meeting and revolt over the way the revenues from the four grand slams are distributed.

The 30-year-old Serb denied any threat of a boycott on Tuesday.

Nadal, a former vice-president of the Players’ Council, said tennis had improved “a lot” for lower-ranked players in recent years but felt more needed to be done.


“Just to be clear, at some point, I don’t know 100 percent about what’s going on or not, but at some point, it’s good that the players speak between each other about what we want or what we don’t want,” he told reporters after winning his second round match against Argentine Leonardo Mayer on Wednesday.

‘That’s all. (It’s) not about union or not union. Forget about this ... I believe that the tennis improved a lot the last couple of years for the lower ranking players.

“One sport is bigger not only when the top guys win a lot of money. It’s bigger when a sport creates a lot of jobs.

“If there is 300 people living from tennis is better than if there is only 100.

“But that’s my opinion. The real thing is if we can help at some point to the players that needs more help, will be fantastic.”

Tennis has been compared unfavourably with rival sports like soccer, golf and basketball in terms of the number of professionals able to make a living in the game and the overall share of wealth given to players.

But the Spaniard, who has earned $94,588,627 in prizemoney from the men’s professional ATP tour, suggested such comparisons were unhelpful.

“You know what? The market is the market,” said the 31-year-old, who will play Bosnian 28th seed Damir Dzumhur for a place in the fourth round at Melbourne Park.

“We cannot fight about the market.

“At the same time the sport is much bigger, football (more) than tennis, in terms of money, in terms of millions of fans.

“But we cannot compare the sports.

“We have to fight to make our sport better, bigger, and to have the best show possible for the crowd. Only like this we going to grow in all terms.”

 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Rafael Nadal sorry for quips on Federer
Jan 16, 2012
  • Associated Press
MELBOURNE, Australia -- A day after a rare show of discord, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal quickly closed ranks.

Nadal had criticized Federer for his unwillingness to speak out on issues affecting the men's game, allowing others to "burn themselves" as they seek improved conditions for players.

After joining Nadal in the second round of the Australian Open with a win on Monday, Federer said "things are fine" between the two longtime rivals, although he concedes that they disagree on a way to resolve a list of player grievances that includes the length of the season and the distribution of prize money.

"We can't always agree on everything," Federer said. "So far it's always been no problem really. Back in the day he (Nadal) used to say, 'Whatever Roger decides, I'm fine with.'

"Today he's much more grown up. He has a strong opinion himself, which I think is great."

For his part, Nadal apologized for airing his disagreement with Federer in public -- although he didn't back down on the views he expressed.

"Probably I am wrong telling that to (the media), especially because these things can stay, must stay in the locker room," Nadal said.

"I always had fantastic relationship with Roger. I still have fantastic relationship with Roger. Just I said we can have different views about how the tour needs to work. That's all."

The rift emerged following a player meeting on Saturday that sparked talk of a possible strike for the second time in six months.
Nadal wasn't alone in questioning Federer's stance. Former No. 3-ranked Nikolay Davydenko said Monday he didn't understand why the 16-time Grand Slam champion wasn't supporting his fellow players.

The Russian said that while Nadal and No. 1-ranked Novak Djokovic had been leading the push for changes, Federer had been reluctant to get involved.
"I don't know why Roger is not supporting the players," Davydenko said. "Because he don't want ... any problems. He's nice guy. He's winning Grand Slams. He's from Switzerland. He's perfect.

"He don't want to do anything, he just try to be an outsider from this one."

However, Federer said his reluctance to speak out shouldn't be construed as a lack of support.

"I was in the meeting. I completely understand and support the players' opinions," Federer said. "I just have a different way of going at it. I'm not discussing it with you guys in the press room. It creates unfortunately sometimes negative stories."

The players plan to meet again at the Indian Wells Masters tournament in March when they will assess how much progress has been made before deciding on a course of action.

Davydenko said a strike remained a remote prospect, but that "the ATP should try to do something between now and Indian Wells." Federer wants to avoid such drastic action if possible.

"(Strike) is such a dangerous word to use," Federer said. "It's not good for anyone really. We've seen it in other sports happening in the States. That's why I'm always very careful about it.

"If there's no avoiding it, I'll support the rest of the players. But I just think we have to think it through how we do it, if we do it, can we do it, whatever it is, instead of just going out and screaming about it."

Federer said there are "two or three" big issues that the players have been discussing. They include the length of the season and prize money at Grand Slam tournaments, which some players believe has not increased proportionately with growing profits.

American John Isner said he had been to the meeting and felt the players had a "legitimate beef" over prize money, which is also an issue at the Indian Wells tournament, where Davydenko said those players who lose in the first round can sometimes lose money after paying tax and travel costs to compete.
Federer said he was confident "a good solution" would be reached and he welcomed the healthy debate. Nadal, meanwhile, vowed that he wouldn't be speaking about it in public again.

"I do not talk anymore," he said. "Yesterday (Sunday), I started, and I say I don't want to talk anymore about this. Finally I talked too much as usual. That's not going to happen again. You can try hard, but I'm going to talk about tennis."

 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
DAVYDENKO BAFFLED BY FEDERER SILENCE
BY FOXSPORTS •
JANUARY 15, 2012

Roger Federer's reticence to join other players in voicing complaints about issues affecting the men's game came under fire again at the Australian Open on Monday.

Former No. 3-ranked Nikolay Davydenko said he didn't understand why the 16-time Grand Slam champion wasn't supporting the push to address player grievances, including the schedule and the distribution of prize money.

Davydenko's remarks came a day after Rafael Nadal criticized his Swiss rival for sitting back while others speak out and ''burn themselves.''

Nadal said Monday he regretted airing his disagreement with Federer in public - although he didn't back down on the views he expressed.

''Probably I am wrong telling that to you, especially because these things can stay, must stay in the locker room,'' Nadal said after his first-round win.

''I always had fantastic relationship with Roger. I still have fantastic relationship with Roger. Just I said we can have different views about how the tour needs to work. That's all.''

Nadal spoke out following a players' meeting in Melbourne on Saturday, when rumors of a possible strike emerged for the second time in six months.

Davydenko said that while Nadal and No. 1-ranked Novak Djokovic had been leading the push for changes, Federer had been reluctant to get involved.

''I don't know why Roger is not supporting the players,'' Davydenko said. ''Because he don't want ... any problems. He's nice guy. He's winning Grand Slams. He's from Switzerland. He's perfect.

''He don't want to do anything, he just try to be an outsider from this one.''

According to Davydenko, a strike is still a distant prospect, but he said the players will meet again at the Indian Wells Masters tournament in March.

''The ATP should try to do something between now and Indian Wells,'' he said. ''For sure, all the top 100 players will go there and just see what will be changed.''

The Russian said he did not support the idea of a shorter season, a change that is backed by Nadal, Djokovic and Andy Murray, but he agrees that prize money has not increased proportionately in line with growing profits.

Prize money also is an issue at the Indian Wells tournament, where Davydenko said those players who lose in the first round can sometimes take a loss after paying tax and travel costs to compete.

Nadal reacted strongly in his pre-tournament news conference Sunday when it was suggested that Federer disliked it when players complained openly about problems on the tour because it tarnished the image of tennis.

''No, I totally disagree,'' he said in comments translated from Spanish. ''For him it's good to say nothing. Everything positive. 'It's all well and good for me, I look like a gentleman,' and the rest can burn themselves.

''Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions.''

 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
The reason I'm posting all these articles is to remind people that this current dispute has been going on since 2012. Everyone seems to have forgotten what went on in 2012.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
DAVYDENKO, LIKE NADAL, DISCUSSES FEDERER'S STANCE
by: ED MCGROGAN | January 15, 2012


MELBOURNE, Australia (AP)—Roger Federer’s reticence to join other players in voicing complaints about issues affecting the men’s game came under fire again at the Australian Open on Monday.

Former No. 3-ranked Nikolay Davydenko said he didn’t understand why the 16-time Grand Slam champion wasn’t supporting the push to address player grievances, including the schedule and the distribution of prize money.

Davydenko’s remarks came a day after Rafael Nadal criticized his Swiss rival for sitting back while others speak out and “burn themselves.”

“I don’t know why Roger is not supporting the players,” Davydenko said. “Because he don’t want … any problems. He’s nice guy. He’s winning Grand Slams. He’s from Switzerland. He’s perfect.

“He don’t want to do anything, he just try to be an outsider from this one.”

For the second time in six months, rumors of a possible strike emerged following Saturday’s player meeting in Melbourne. Davydenko said a strike was still a distant prospect, but that the players would meet again at the Indian Wells Masters tournament in March.

“The ATP should try to do something between now and Indian Wells,” he said. “For sure, all the top 100 players will go there and just see what will be changed.”

The Russian said he did not support the idea of a shorter season, a change that is backed by Nadal, Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray, but he agrees that prize money has not increased in line with growing profits at Grand Slam tournaments.

Prize money is also an issue at the Indian Wells tournament, where Davydenko said those players who lose in the first round can sometimes make a loss after paying tax and travel costs to contest the tournament.

Federer did sit with the players and listen at Saturday’s meeting, according to Davydenko, who also said the top four players were supposed to meet on Sunday.

“I don’t know what was happening,” Davydenko said. “You need to ask why (of) Federer. I’ll also be interesting what Federer says. If you guys ask Federer why he don’t want to do, why he don’t want to support players, I will be interested in the answer.”

Nadal reacted strongly on Sunday when it was suggested that Federer disliked it when players complained openly about problems on the tour because it tarnished the image of tennis.

“No, I totally disagree,” he said in comments translated from Spanish. “For him it’s good to say nothing. Everything positive. ‘It’s all well and good for me, I look like a gentleman,’ and the rest can burn themselves.

“Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions.”

 

bigserving

Hall of Fame
I am all about the group that puts the fans, and the growth of the game first. That is my team. We want, lower ticket and concessions prices. We want more televised tennis.

If they are all merely going to fight over the prize money, then screw-em all!!
 

Federev

G.O.A.T.
As in when its all said and done.
What a shock that an ATG GOAT contender -who is SIX YEARS YOUNGER - is regularly beating another ATG in his mid to late 30s.

As @BeatlesFan pointed out - Lendl won his last 17 matches against Connors, 7 years his senior.

I wonder if age had anything to do with it.

...Or do we all just know that Lendl was just so much better than Jimmy?

The real question is why in the world does Fed make him work so hard for his wins and can even routine him at 38?
 

Tenacity

Hall of Fame
What a shock that an ATG GOAT contender -who is SIX YEARS YOUNGER - is regularly beating another ATG in his mid to late 30s.

As @BeatlesFan pointed out - Lendl won his last 17 matches against Connors, 7 years his senior.

I wonder if age had anything to do with it.

...Or do we all just know that Lendl was just so much better than Jimmy?

The real question is why in the world does Fed make him work so hard for his wins and can even routine him at 38?
Calm down, everything is gonna be fine.
 

Federev

G.O.A.T.
Calm down, everything is gonna be fine.
Thanks.

I was really struggling.
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