I can't remember the backhands of 90% of the players mentioned here.
Nastase infamously broke Vilas consecutive matches winning streak with that fancy stringbed.
Bettina Bunge, yes!In addition to the ones already mentioned, I really liked the backhands of Fitzgerald, Clerc, Mancini, Stoltenbeg, Meligeni, Mantilla, Horna and Cuevas.
On the women’s side, my favourite one handed backhands have all been far more ‘obvious’ choices, so those of Goolagong, Mandlikova, Mauresmo, Henin etc. So in addition to those, I really liked the backhands of Dianne Fromholtz and Bettina Bunge.
Waltke had an ATG slice- truly a thing of beauty, and effectiveness. Also the last guy to wear trousers[
When we meet I will bring a racket and show you. Gottfried and Waltke both took the racket back high and cocked their wrist. They could slice and flat really well but harder for them to hit topspin because I believe they were both using a continental grip. Elliot used an eastern grip for his topspin shot and on his take back laid his racket back flat more like Orantes did except Orantes used a continental grip. He also wore shirts too big that would hang low. It will be easier just to show you the rest. I hope Dr. Raul can join.
Leconte was super talented, but as was the case with many of his French compatriots, he was a head case and was concerned with a lot of things other than tennis.Good picks. I wish Henri had held it together and taken out Wilander in that FO final.
Not bloody likely, as they say.
damn.
Yes, you are right of course. It was one of those hoping-against-hope things:Leconte was super talented, but as was the case with many of his French compatriots, he was a head case and was concerned with a lot of things other than tennis.
I am the only person here who talks about Guillermo Vilas.
This place is very discriminating against South Americans, only second after Serbians.
I just realized that none of us have mentioned Jaime Yzaga, who beat Sampras *twice* at the USO..
all 5'7" of him.
I like Djokovic fine; he's a principled human, AFAICS. His tennis bores me so muchEveryone likes Ivanovic. It’s only Egg. I’m not sure though if he’s very discriminated against or that Eggbot’s have a persecution complex.
I‘ve seen a lot of Egg matches over the years. I like watching Egg. His gumby moves are almost unparalleled. He’s been a part of so many great matches. I enjoy a boob throw as much as the next fan. Eggbot’s are another matter.I like Djokovic fine; he's a principled human, AFAICS. His tennis bores me so much
that I'd rather watch Raffi, though- and that's saying something.
"Stultifying" might be the word for his game. "Pong tennis" works, too.
I understand, but tend to like players who force the action rather than reacting to it.I‘ve seen a lot of Egg matches over the years. I like watching Egg. His gumby moves are almost unparalleled. He’s been a part of so many great matches. I enjoy a boob throw as much as the next fan. Eggbot’s are another matter.![]()
Ivanovic? Oh yes yes yesEveryone likes Ivanovic. It’s only Egg. I’m not sure though if he’s very discriminated against or that Eggbot’s have a persecution complex.
I think it depends a bit who Egg is playing for me. He’s not a player I will watch play anyone such as FEDR who I can watch hit against a wall.I understand, but tend to like players who force the action rather than reacting to it.
In boxing I love counterpunchers, though. Go figure.
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Good call on Ljubicic. He had real good preparation for the shot, similar- now that I think of it- to Teltscher's.Ivan Ljubicic had a brutal single hander. Even if a player went hard into it they could expect a heavy response back.
I’m a big fan of guys who can hit a powerful single hander on the full run and control it with shape the same way 2h players can. Obviously Thiem and GOATwrinka were awesome at this, but so was the Spanish player Guillermo Garcia Lopez:
Yes, Ljubicic had great preparation and I think the aggressive mindset helped a lot. He was a huge man so he had a head start in that department. Off-topic, but I think Ljubicic was pretty valuable to Federer in reminding him to be super aggressive on the backhand.Good call on Ljubicic. He had real good preparation for the shot, similar- now that I think of it- to Teltscher's.
It's like you could tell from the wind-up that the ball would be a heavy one, though of course Ljubicic was a
much bigger guy.
I'm not familiar with GGL, but will try to find some clips.
That all makes sense to me. I remember wondering about the choice of Ljubicic as coach- actually I was dubious of that pairing-Yes, Ljubicic had great preparation and I think the aggressive mindset helped a lot. He was a huge man so he had a head start in that department. Off-topic, but I think Ljubicic was pretty valuable to Federer in reminding him to be super aggressive on the backhand.
I also wonder how much help Ljubicic was when Federer was tinkering with his racquet setup. I think Ljubicic might have been a good sounding board there, as he was an adopter of very powerful racquets with a larger head sizes to augment his already very serious weapons, and might have been able to sell Roger on the benefits.
Wow! Thanks for the link.. doing that against Hewitt? I'll have to see more of this guy of whom I've been ignorant.
2017 was insane. Federer was also great for a lot of early 2018 and also he nearly won 2019 Wimbledon as a middle-aged man, but those feats were just cherries on the top after that insane 2017 season. No one could beat him.That all makes sense to me. I remember wondering about the choice of Ljubicic as coach- actually I was dubious of that pairing-
but it worked out well, didn't it? 2017 in particular was such a refreshing year.. some of those clean BH winners were jaw-dropping,
even more so at IW I think, against the surly Mallorcan.
Federer, Gasquet and Wawrinka
Nastase could hit shots with his 1HB no one else could. But he does get discussed but more for his behavior than tennis.
At least nobody has written anything about Djokovic. Yet.THAT'S NOT THE THREAD!!!
beat me to the punch!one of my favorite one handers
I‘m sorry you feel that way. I do recall that weirdo who kept talking about the non-existent “Vilas trial”but I guess that is not the same thing as discussing just how good Vilas was as well as an integral part of the true Golden Era. Vilas was one of my fav players when I was at a very impressionable age. I saw him play in person quite a few times. I also met him and he was very nice.
Please feel free to discuss him regularly. He should be discussed at least as often as Carrot.
I will take anything over a GOAT ranking discussion.A post a day? Isn't that a bit much for Vilas -- who was *cough* never ranked number 1?![]()
Estuve en la cancha viendo ese partido en Miami del Gordo Calleri vs Agassi
I will take anything over a GOAT ranking discussion.
Not really. Good backhand but not causing any harm. Jose Luis Clerc’s backhand was lethal in those daysVilas is in that conversation, at least on the clay-side, right?
Vilas won Majors. I liked Clerc a lot, but he didn't, despite being super-solid off both wings (ask Connors).Not really. Good backhand but not causing any harm. Jose Luis Clerc’s backhand was lethal in those days
His is less than beautiful, but his real crime is not having an effective slice off that side.Tsitsipas for the ugly one handed backhand award.
so, you judge the backhand technique based on how many majors the player won?Vilas won Majors. I liked Clerc a lot, but he didn't, despite being super-solid off both wings (ask Connors).
I remember watching Clerc against McEnroe in an exo in Hilversum, Netherlands (it was on tv), maybe in 1988. He was actually retired, but he spanked McEnroe badly on the clay. First time I saw him play, I was very impressed with his power. Mac was behaving terribly, he probably didn't like being done in by a pensioner.so, you judge the backhand technique based on how many majors the player won?
I don’t that, Clerc had much better backhand than Vilas period. I respect your opinion as anybody’s else but I grew up in Argentina, I played tennis while these players were still playing. I saw Clerc spanking Vilas really bad in an exhibition indoor match. Vilas fans were booing Clerc, I was having the best time of my life witnessing that. We have no room to have two idols among us, not admitted. I took Clerc’s side, the underdog.
I think if you've seen my comments that I've praised Clerc quite a bit here. I do see his lack of successso, you judge the backhand technique based on how many majors the player won?
I don’t that, Clerc had much better backhand than Vilas period. I respect your opinion as anybody’s else but I grew up in Argentina, I played tennis while these players were still playing. I saw Clerc spanking Vilas really bad in an exhibition indoor match. Vilas fans were booing Clerc, I was having the best time of my life witnessing that. We have no room to have two idols among us, not admitted. I took Clerc’s side, the underdog.
Not really. Good backhand but not causing any harm. Jose Luis Clerc’s backhand was lethal in those days