Uniqlo WTF 2019

White top with lilac shorts will look fantastic. Ditto dark top with white shorts.


I like the white top and white short. I am going to buy them. I also found a machine that will do the heat transfer of the RF logo to both the shirt and the short. I am going to put the RF logo on all of my purchased Uniqlo shirts and shorts :)
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
I like the white top and white short. I am going to buy them. I also found a machine that will do the heat transfer of the RF logo to both the shirt and the short. I am going to put the RF logo on all of my purchased Uniqlo shirts and shorts :)
I myself am allergic to the initials of people other than me on my clothes, which Is the reason why I rarely buy such. I was thinking about picking up a Lacoste polar with a very nice quality (thick, slim and good colour), but there is a Djokovic logo on the sleeve, and although it is the same colour as the piece itself, it still is an unwanted element. Not that I wouldn't buy something just because of a logo, but I always thought of it as a distraction rather than a feature.

 
I myself am allergic to the initials of people other than me on my clothes, which Is the reason why I rarely buy such. I was thinking about picking up a Lacoste polar with a very nice quality (thick, slim and good colour), but there is a Djokovic logo on the sleeve, and although it is the same colour as the piece itself, it still is an unwanted element. Not that I wouldn't buy something just because of a logo, but I always thought of it as a distraction rather than a feature.

I guess you're the exception rather the norm. 99% of people would like to have the RF logo on Uniqlo shirts and shorts. Same goes with Djokovic logo on either Uniqlo or Lacoste.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
I guess you're the exception rather the norm. 99% of people would like to have the RF logo on Uniqlo shirts and shorts. Same goes with Djokovic logo on either Uniqlo or Lacoste.
It may be so, but I really don't understand what the appeal of having someone else's initials on your own clothes is. Care to explain?

On a separate note, I bought recently a Lacoste shirt for a fun reinvention of an old outfit (with a slightly modern twist) for a fun play with all white outfits and wood racquets that we organise amongst ourselves from time to time. It is cream white with logo patterned in houndstooth in black and blue, which is a nice throwback to better sartorial times. The unpleasant surprise came when it turned out that there is a second (normal green) Lacoste logo perched at the back just below the collar (which they didn't post a picture of). I don't remember when Lacoste started making stupid decisions with their logos, but they ruined the nice idea that they had for a little marketing exposure. I notice that quite a bit with most of their current stuff where they plaster all over their clothes either a writing in huge letters or patterns with their name or their logos. It stinks as part of the allure of the company is that it provides some restrained options with nice detailing, and now they cannot get even the detailing right most of the time. Disappointing, so it is not only the initials but also overdoing it with logos that is a problem.

 
It may be so, but I really don't understand what the appeal of having someone else's initials on your own clothes is. Care to explain?
Kids and young adults love to purchase clothes with RF, Djokovic logo on tennis shirts and shorts. I have kids literally asked if they can purchase my Uniqlo jacket with RF logo on it for like $200. A jacket that I got from Uniqlo for $9.90 and I just slapped the RF logo on there along with the Uniqlo logo so I can wear it. I could have sold that jacket for 1900% profit. To adults, that logo does not mean much but to a kid wearing that RF shirt to AO, Wimbledon or USO, that's really cool. That's how marketing work.
 

jmacdaununder2

Hall of Fame
Ironically, Lacoste apparently claim that Rene 'Le Crocodile' Lacoste's eponymous logo was the first use of an individual's 'designer' logo on the outside of a garment; it was implemented in the 1930s.
 
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Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
Kids and young adults love to purchase clothes with RF, Djokovic logo on tennis shirts and shorts. I have kids literally asked if they can purchase my Uniqlo jacket with RF logo on it for like $200. A jacket that I got from Uniqlo for $9.90 and I just slapped the RF logo on there along with the Uniqlo logo so I can wear it. I could have sold that jacket for 1900% profit. To adults, that logo does not mean much but to a kid wearing that RF shirt to AO, Wimbledon or USO, that's really cool. That's how marketing work.
Ah, but most of people buying these pieces of **** are adults, not kids, so what is the explanation about them?

 
Ah, but most of people buying these pieces of **** are adults, not kids, so what is the explanation about them?


Apparently you know nothing about marketing. Adults who buy them because they have been a fan of RF or Novak for YEARS. RF has been on tours since at least 1998 as juniors and Novak since 2001. Even adults love their favorite tennis players.

I am also a huge fan of John Mayer. I got a Martin 0042JM guitar for about 9K but another friend of mine got the exact same 0042JM guitar with the actual John Mayer signature on guitar signed by John Mayer himself and he bought that guitar for 50K. Is his guitar sound better than mine? Absolutely not but it is a piece of history.

You should take marketing class because it will help you to understand how people react in certain ways.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
Apparently you know nothing about marketing. Adults who buy them because they have been a fan of RF or Novak for YEARS. RF has been on tours since at least 1998 as juniors and Novak since 2001. Even adults love their favorite tennis players.

I am also a huge fan of John Mayer. I got a Martin 0042JM guitar for about 9K but another friend of mine got the exact same 0042JM guitar with the actual John Mayer signature on guitar signed by John Mayer himself and he bought that guitar for 50K. Is his guitar sound better than mine? Absolutely not but it is a piece of history.

You should take marketing class because it will help you to understand how people react in certain ways.
Apparently you don't make a difference between a person who "knows marketing" from one who is a victim of marketing. The former tends to not succumb to marketing gimmicks, while the latter, oblivious to its approaches buys whatever he is told (in the case in question, a personal insignia or initials). You don't have to buy the outfit that your favourite player is wearing to support him, nor will anyone take issue with that.

If you knew me or my activity around here, you would know that I am a vocal proponent of NOT buying stuff just because of affiliations. I am known for that and for a good reason. I am also known for pointing out at problems with such leading to distortion of the real life facts (a classical example is a person that hasn't used a product but sings its prizes, or one that has a very limited experience but broadens its scope to make misleading conclusions).

Your equivalence is false: when you buy a personally signed guitar it IS a piece of history, as the signature authenticates that that person was there and personally approved the product. A fabricated signature is nothing more than selling you a mass produced stuff with no connection to the person in real life. Then it comes the problem with exclusivity: the smaller the numbers the more exclusive and the more expensive the product. Mass produced stuff has very little to offer in that regard. Personally signed items a bit more or substantially more (a painting with a clear signature can go for multiples of one without, even if they are attributed to the same artist).

 
Your equivalence is false: when you buy a personally signed guitar it IS a piece of history, as the signature authenticates that that person was there and personally approved the product. A fabricated signature is nothing more than selling you a mass produced stuff with no connection to the person in real life. Then it comes the problem with exclusivity: the smaller the numbers the more exclusive and the more expensive the product. Mass produced stuff has very little to offer in that regard. Personally signed items a bit more or substantially more (a painting with a clear signature can go for multiples of one without, even if they are attributed to the same artist).

How many people do you see wearing Uniqlo product with Uniqlo logo? A lot right?

How many people do you see wearing Uniqlo product with both Uniqlo logo and the RF logo? I don't know of any, legally, do you? If people see a person wearing Uniqlo product with RF logo on it, they will ask and want to know where they can buy them. That's exclusivity. It makes people want it more.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
How many people do you see wearing Uniqlo product with Uniqlo logo? A lot right?

How many people do you see wearing Uniqlo product with both Uniqlo logo and the RF logo? I don't know of any, legally, do you? If people see a person wearing Uniqlo product with RF logo on it, they will ask and want to know where they can buy them. That's exclusivity. It makes people want it more.
It is interesting that you say that, because it is even a worse case that I addressed in my conversations with a known poster on this site who does customisations. Creating something that doesn't exist (a Uniqlo polo with an RF insignia, for example) with the obvious attempt to allude to something that exists (a Uniqlo polo that Federer wears but that doesn't have an RF insignia even on himself) is simply known as a "fake". It doesn't have a foothold in the real life events that transpired, nor has it any organic connection to the reality.

Also, whether people want to buy fakes is not a justification to want to have such: people buy fake Rolexes all the time. That won't make me want to wear one like theirs, nor will their fake Rolexes serve any purpose that a real one would. It is ignorance relying on ignorance to create an effect.

 
It is interesting that you say that, because it is even a worse case that I addressed in my conversations with a known poster on this site who does customisations. Creating something that doesn't exist (a Uniqlo polo with an RF insignia, for example) with the obvious attempt to allude to something that exists (a Uniqlo polo that Federer wears but that doesn't have an RF insignia even on himself) is simply known as a "fake". It doesn't have a foothold in the real life events that transpired, nor has it any organic connection to the reality.
Well, tell that to RF fans out there. Most people don't know they are "fake", they just want them, especially to junior tennis players and their parents too. I was at a tennis tournament recently with my daughter and my son wore a Uniqlo jacket that Federer wore at Wimbledon (you know the one that is NOT available to the public). Well Uniqlo sold similar jacket like that but without the Uniqlo logo for $9.90 on sale. Well, I have the machine that put on the Uniqlo logo. Well, that's what I did but I also put on the RF logo on the jacket just for fun. Guess what, at the tournament, I have at least 30 people come to me and asked where I purchased that jacket so that they want to purchase that jacket for themselves and for their kids. Nobody know that the RF Insignia belong to Nike nor they care. They just want that jacket because it is "unique" and it has RF and Uniqlo logos on the jacket. One kid actually begged my son to sell him the jacket for $200 but I said no.


Also, whether people want to buy fakes is not a justification to want to have such: people buy fake Rolexes all the time. That won't make me want to wear one like theirs, nor will their fake Rolexes serve any purpose that a real one would. It is ignorance relying on ignorance to create an effect.

As I've said before, you're the exception rather than the norm. Most tennis fans, when they see RF logo along side with Uniqlo logo, they MUST have it.
 

Nicholo

Rookie
My all time favorite part of the Uniqlo/Federer partnership is hearing the endless crying complaints that the line is simultaneously godawful while also too hard to locate for purchase — seemingly indicating that not only would many purchase it in spite of the designs if they could, but that we are in the death throes of irony itself.
 

Tennis_Hands

Bionic Poster
My all time favorite part of the Uniqlo/Federer partnership is hearing the endless crying complaints that the line is simultaneously godawful while also too hard to locate for purchase — seemingly indicating that not only would many purchase it in spite of the designs if they could, but that we are in the death throes of irony itself.
LOL, the desperation and anger are real: look at what they have to do to vent - posting articles of pseudo journalists (known for pitching the products of the highest bidder and no integrity whatsoever), making snide remarks and overall rage. One can hardly believe that those are adults.

 
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