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_phantom said:
And it's not the first time I have seen Djokovic fans do this in a thread.

It seems a few of them have better access to mods, and can simply delete from a thread the posts they don't like or make their arguments weak.

Making their arguments look stronger, even in questionable ways, means a lot to them apparently.
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They can manipulate the conversation but they can't alter the facts and it's a fact that Rafa Nadal is unique. No ifs no buts.
 
UnderratedSlam said:
Ah, this brings back memories...

... of RF fans claiming Nadal is a flash-in-the-pan clay bunny who plays on brute force alone, that his style of play destroys the body, he can't have a long career, that RF is superior because he can play for much much much longer.

Longevity was a huge word among RF fans then. How ironic things can get. Poetic justice?
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Feders longetivity is still better.
Won 3 slams post 35.
Became No 1 at 37 years.
Almost won a slam one month shy of 38.

Lets see if Nadal can better these in couple of years.
 
T007 said:
Feders longetivity is still better.
Won 3 slams post 35.
Became No 1 at 37 years.
Almost won a slam one month shy of 38.

Lets see if Nadal can better these in couple of years.
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Lol are you forgetting Nadal was a teenage prodigy as well. Obviously Nadal does not need to match Fed's accomplishments post 35 for better longevity because Nadal was tearing up the sport at 18 years old. Its been almost 17 years of sustained dominance
 
zuluzazu said:
Lol are you forgetting Nadal was a teenage prodigy as well. Obviously Nadal does not need to match Fed's accomplishments post 35 for better longevity because Nadal was tearing up the sport at 18 years old. Its been almost 17 years of sustained dominance
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Nadal was/is never dominant outside clay.

The 2000s decade was dominated by Federer and 2010s by djokovic and Nadal was the Second best in both.
 
T007 said:
Nadal was/is never dominant outside clay.

The 2000s decade was dominated by Federer and 2010s by djokovic and Nadal was the Second best in both.
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LOL that is longevity. Being the second best for two consecutive decades is longevity. He has had sustained success. Also what is this clay non clay nonsense. Clay is also a playing surface
 
zuluzazu said:
LOL that is longevity. Being the second best for two consecutive decades is longevity. He has had sustained success. Also what is this clay non clay nonsense. Clay is also a playing surface
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Lol you are contradicting your statement. Dominance means staying No 1 and dominating multiple surfaces over a decade.
Federer and djokovic dominated HCs and grass and Nadal on clay.
 
T007 said:
Lol you are contradicting your statement. Dominance means staying No 1 and dominating multiple surfaces over a decade.
Federer and djokovic dominated HCs and grass and Nadal on clay.
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Djokovic has dominated grass as much as Nadal has dominated HC... both having 6 slams on the respective surfaces....
 
T007 said:
Feders longetivity is still better.
Won 3 slams post 35.
Became No 1 at 37 years.
Almost won a slam one month shy of 38.

Lets see if Nadal can better these in couple of years.
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He doesn't have to... he did way more than Fed prior to age 22...

But... going back to that, there were many Fed fans that said Nadal wouldn't be able to walk at 31 years old.... let's see him win a slam like Fed won WIM12...
 
T007 said:
1. Feders longetivity is still better.
2. Won 3 slams post 35.
3. Became No 1 at 37 years.
4. Almost won a slam one month shy of 38.

Lets see if Nadal can better these in couple of years.
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Nice cherry-picking there. You a RF fan or st?

1. No, it's not.

2. Nadal won 3 slams pre-22 age. RF won none until he was 22. (He won his first weeks before his 22nd birthday.)
Nadal had 5 slams by the time he was 22 and 1 month, by which point RF had just one.
5-1.

3. Vulturing in Novak's absence, yes...

4. Almost is a joke in sports. Almost is 40-15. Almost is being a mental midget.

5. RF fans 15 years ago were convinced that Rafa's longevity would be far less. Does 2022 give you that impression?

Nadal won slams at a younger age.

Nadal's "slam-span" is almost 17 years. 2005-2022.

Federer's is almost 15 years. 2003-2018.

Any questions?

You have to understand the all the RF fan myths created in the 00s were crushed, or are about to be destroyed. Hype is a boomerang.
 
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UnderratedSlam said:
Nice cherry-picking there. You a RF fan or st?

1. No, it's not.

2. Nadal won 3 slams pre-22 age. RF won none until he was 22. (He won his first weeks before his 22nd birthday.)
Nadal had 5 slams by the time he was 22 and 1 month, by which point RF had just one.
5-1.

3. Vulturing in Novak's absence, yes...

4. Almost is a joke in sports. Almost is 40-15. Almost is being a mental midget.

5. RF fans 15 years ago were convinced that Rafa's longevity would be far less. Does 2022 give you that impression?

Nadal won slams at a younger age.

Nadal's "slam-span" is almost 17 years. 2005-2022.

Federer's is almost 15 years. 2003-2018.

Any questions?

You have to understand the all the RF fan myths created in the 00s were crushed, or are about to be destroyed. Hype is a boomerang.
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Same cherrypicking data by you. It doesn't matter how much you win in teenage. Longetivity is about winning in late 30s..something which Ken Rosewell and Federer has achieved.

You must be one of those fanatics who howl chanting the achievement in career inflation era.

The question is about Mental midget is concerned even Nadal lost matches from winning position.

2012 AO Final
2017 AO Final
2018 W SFs.

Even he has the worst record when he is 0-2 down.

Even roger didn't lost any player 8 times in a row on the same surface as your idol Nadal has suffered against novak outside clay in last 9 years.
 
UnderratedSlam said:
Nice cherry-picking there. You a RF fan or st?

1. No, it's not.

2. Nadal won 3 slams pre-22 age. RF won none until he was 22. (He won his first weeks before his 22nd birthday.)
Nadal had 5 slams by the time he was 22 and 1 month, by which point RF had just one.
5-1.

3. Vulturing in Novak's absence, yes...

4. Almost is a joke in sports. Almost is 40-15. Almost is being a mental midget.

5. RF fans 15 years ago were convinced that Rafa's longevity would be far less. Does 2022 give you that impression?

Nadal won slams at a younger age.

Nadal's "slam-span" is almost 17 years. 2005-2022.

Federer's is almost 15 years. 2003-2018.

Any questions?

You have to understand the all the RF fan myths created in the 00s were crushed, or are about to be destroyed. Hype is a boomerang.
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Nadal is a second fiddle to Federer in 2000s and to djokovic in 2010s.

Be it number of slams,No 1 ranking,titles

Any Questions ???
 
T007 said:
Same cherrypicking data by you. It doesn't matter how much you win in teenage. Longetivity is about winning in late 30s..something which Ken Rosewell and Federer has achieved.

You must be one of those fanatics who howl chanting the achievement in career inflation era.

The question is about Mental midget is concerned even Nadal lost matches from winning position.

2012 AO Final
2017 AO Final
2018 W SFs.

Even he has the worst record when he is 0-2 down.

Even roger didn't lost any player 8 times in a row on the same surface as your idol Nadal has suffered against novak outside clay in last 9 years.
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Sorry, had to stop reading after the bolded part, I couldn't stop laughing.
 
The_Order said:
Djokovic has dominated grass as much as Nadal has dominated HC... both having 6 slams on the respective surfaces....
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Dominated ??? Are you dumb the other two have won double the slams he won on HC. There is only one wimbledon but there are 2 HC events which he won combinely 6 times
 
T007 said:
Any Questions ???
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Yes, a few questions: when did you become an RF fan and why do you dislike Nadal so much that you would volunteer to join the Bad Logic Army just so you can pretend his career is "a joke"?

You can be a fan and be objective. It's not forbidden. Not mutually exclusive.
 
UnderratedSlam said:
Yes, a few questions: when did you become an RF fan and why do you dislike Nadal so much that you would volunteer to join the Bad Logic Army just so you can pretend his career is "a joke"?

You can be a fan and be objective. It's not forbidden. Not mutually exclusive.
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I don't dislike Nadal,djokovic or any such player tbh... but i dislike some of their vitrolic fans who keep taking digs at Federer and try to demonize his achievements

There are many trolls and posters who that and you are one of them. So i reply very strongly to them. But again those guys very cleverly delect the motion of the discussion and call me Anti Nadal or Djokovic.
 
UnderratedSlam said:
Yes, a few questions: when did you become an RF fan and why do you dislike Nadal so much that you would volunteer to join the Bad Logic Army just so you can pretend his career is "a joke"?

You can be a fan and be objective. It's not forbidden. Not mutually exclusive.
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Ah poor guy can't take arguements on face value and starts reporting them.

Just childish things.
 
T007 said:
I don't dislike Nadal,djokovic or any such player tbh... but i dislike some of their vitrolic fans who keep taking digs at Federer and try to demonize his achievements

There are many trolls and posters who that and you are one of them. So i reply very strongly to them. But again those guys very cleverly delect the motion of the discussion and call me Anti Nadal or Djokovic.
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Yeah, I didn't expect an honest answer...

It was a kinda "trick question".
 
T007 said:
Dominated ??? Are you dumb the other two have won double the slams he won on HC. There is only one wimbledon but there are 2 HC events which he won combinely 6 times
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Just like there is 2 HC events for them and only 1 clay for Nadal...

Are you dumb?
 
The_Order said:
Just like there is 2 HC events for them and only 1 clay for Nadal...

Are you dumb?
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Nope your understanding speaks a lot about your IQ.

He dominated clay but not HC or grass. Those two are dominated by Djokovic and Federer.

Winning 6 HC titles in 17 years is not dominance.
 
T007 said:
Nope your understanding speaks a lot about your IQ.

He dominated clay but not HC or grass. Those two are dominated by Djokovic and Federer.

Winning 6 HC titles in 17 years is not dominance.
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Rather, your understanding of what I said says a lot about your IQ...

I didn't say Rafa dominated HC... I said he dominated as much as Djokovic dominated grass...

Both of which haven't been dominant on both surfaces... but have still done well.

When you learn and understand English properly, then come and talk.
 
The_Order said:
Rather, your understanding of what I said says a lot about your IQ...

I didn't say Rafa dominated HC... I said he dominated as much as Djokovic dominated grass...

Both of which haven't been dominant on both surfaces... but have still done well.

When you learn and understand English properly, then come and talk.
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Your understanding of reality is very absurd.

Djokovic won I grass event 6 times out 15 times he played. Nadal 6 HC events out of 30 odd times he played. Who has a better conversion rate to be rated as dominant.

First learn basic Mathematic,then come and talk
 
T007 said:
Your understanding of reality is very absurd.

Djokovic won I grass event 6 times out 15 times he played. Nadal 6 HC events out of 30 odd times he played. Who has a better conversion rate to be rated as dominant.

First learn basic Mathematic,then come and talk
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Not really...

Djokovic has 5 Wimbledon after turning 27 lmfao... during his peak he managed only 1... yeah real dominant :rolleyes:
 
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