University Discussion Thread

Eph

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No, I live in Illinois. i would've chosen UCLA or San Diego, but the public schools don't give out as much financial aid. And as said below, "hordes of asians!" Hhaha, gotta love the UCLA's "bimbo".

So, what do you plan on studying? Are you sure on that major, or is it only because "it will help me get into med school"? If the latter, will you reconsider your major, if you decide to drop pre-med? What else would/are you interested in?


What kind of doctor would you like to be, and why? Or do you not know (this is okay)?


This may sound odd... I'm very pleased to hear that you are considering financial aid when picking a university. So many people just go to whichever college they think is best, ignoring the costs,... until they get their first bill for their student loans, 6 months after they graduate. (Hopefully you can fix your interest rate -- I wouldn't get variable, especially given the time... in 4 years, interest rates will most likely be very, very high).

I'm working on a web application that discusses personal finance for the 15-22 year old demographic. I think it's neglected, and hopefully I can help. I plan to roll out phase 1 over the summer. I'm interviewing middle and high school students as they walk through campus to go home after school now... making sure I cover everything :)

Sorry if that was a bit of a derailment from your topic.
 

Eph

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Oh, you could also consider taking a "gap year" and living in California, so you can become a resident, for financial aid purposes. Usually all you need is to have a job for that year, and to have a lease during certain dates (usually August 1, for 365 days) to be considered a resident. Some states do not even require a job. In Vermont, it is *very* difficult to get residency status, because they have no money.
 
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Oh, you could also consider taking a "gap year" and living in California, so you can become a resident, for financial aid purposes. Usually all you need is to have a job for that year, and to have a lease during certain dates (usually August 1, for 365 days) to be considered a resident. Some states do not even require a job. In Vermont, it is *very* difficult to get residency status, because they have no money.

So, what do you plan on studying? Are you sure on that major, or is it only because "it will help me get into med school"? If the latter, will you reconsider your major, if you decide to drop pre-med? What else would/are you interested in?


What kind of doctor would you like to be, and why? Or do you not know (this is okay)?


This may sound odd... I'm very pleased to hear that you are considering financial aid when picking a university. So many people just go to whichever college they think is best, ignoring the costs,... until they get their first bill for their student loans, 6 months after they graduate. (Hopefully you can fix your interest rate -- I wouldn't get variable, especially given the time... in 4 years, interest rates will most likely be very, very high).

I'm working on a web application that discusses personal finance for the 15-22 year old demographic. I think it's neglected, and hopefully I can help. I plan to roll out phase 1 over the summer. I'm interviewing middle and high school students as they walk through campus to go home after school now... making sure I cover everything :)

Sorry if that was a bit of a derailment from your topic.

No problem. I plan on studying biology as I find it both interesting and it will help with medical school. But, I have also thought about economics, as I have found a new interest in that this year. I will change majors if I choose not to go to medical school or change my interests. However, the good thing about medical school, as you probably know, is that you don't need to be a biology/chemistry/biochem major to go there. An English major can go to med school with the right prereqs.

As of now, I'm thinking of the cardiology route, and quite possibly, a cardiac surgeon. Of the body parts, the heart is quite fascinating, and it would be great to help in very serious issues such as heart disease and whatnot.

And the gap year crossed my mind. I just didn't know how difficult it would be to go to a great university coming off a gap year. Right now, coming out of high school, my scores look good. I'm not sure if it will look worse after a gap year.

It does dishearten me that UCLA is such a great school, in a great neighborhood, and highly ranked, and yet, it's a public school :( But i'll think about the gap year. Thanks for the kind words on financial aid, and thanks again for all of the help!
 

Eph

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No problem. I plan on studying biology as I find it both interesting and it will help with medical school. But, I have also thought about economics, as I have found a new interest in that this year. I will change majors if I choose not to go to medical school or change my interests. However, the good thing about medical school, as you probably know, is that you don't need to be a biology/chemistry/biochem major to go there. An English major can go to med school with the right prereqs.

As of now, I'm thinking of the cardiology route, and quite possibly, a cardiac surgeon. Of the body parts, the heart is quite fascinating, and it would be great to help in very serious issues such as heart disease and whatnot.

And the gap year crossed my mind. I just didn't know how difficult it would be to go to a great university coming off a gap year. Right now, coming out of high school, my scores look good. I'm not sure if it will look worse after a gap year.

It does dishearten me that UCLA is such a great school, in a great neighborhood, and highly ranked, and yet, it's a public school :( But i'll think about the gap year. Thanks for the kind words on financial aid, and thanks again for all of the help!

Yeah, that's basically why I mentioned that. When I thought I would study medicine, I was thrilled that I didn't have to study sciences (although I wanted to). I've heard mixed things about whether it helps or not to study the humanities and then go to med school, rather than the typical bio/chem to med school route. Honestly, I think it is best to study what you love: Your passion will shine out where it matters most, i.e. with professors, your research, etc..

My roommate gave up his professorship at UCSD to become a researcher here -- if you want, I could forward any queries to him.


Public schools can be great. SUNY (New York) is another great system. In fact, one of my advisors is on leave this semester doing research at Stony Brook. I have tried to persuade my brother into going to SUNY Stony Brook, but he rather go to a no-name school closer to a ski mountain. Sigh.


For what its worth, I wish I took a gap year. You'll have plenty of time for academics. Travel a bit, spend some time in Lima, volunteering for some organization in the slums there. See how others live. Help out where you can.

Then go to school. You'll appreciate that perspective.
 
Yeah, that's basically why I mentioned that. When I thought I would study medicine, I was thrilled that I didn't have to study sciences (although I wanted to). I've heard mixed things about whether it helps or not to study the humanities and then go to med school, rather than the typical bio/chem to med school route. Honestly, I think it is best to study what you love: Your passion will shine out where it matters most, i.e. with professors, your research, etc..

My roommate gave up his professorship at UCSD to become a researcher here -- if you want, I could forward any queries to him.


Public schools can be great. SUNY (New York) is another great system. In fact, one of my advisors is on leave this semester doing research at Stony Brook. I have tried to persuade my brother into going to SUNY Stony Brook, but he rather go to a no-name school closer to a ski mountain. Sigh.


For what its worth, I wish I took a gap year. You'll have plenty of time for academics. Travel a bit, spend some time in Lima, volunteering for some organization in the slums there. See how others live. Help out where you can.

Then go to school. You'll appreciate that perspective.

Definitely don't need to do biology/biochem/molecular bio as a major to be a successful premed. I majored in biochem and molecular bio and minored in English. If I could do it all over again, I would have definitely majored in English and forgotten about biochem.

Regardless, you have to take the prereqs anyways, and Ochem is the same whether you're a biochem major or an English major.

Premed is really not that difficult, I had plenty of time in college and thoroughly enjoyed my time (beer pong 3x/week, frat parties, the whole nine yards)

If at any time you have questions about the premed process, let me know and I can answer anything.
 
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Yeah, that's basically why I mentioned that. When I thought I would study medicine, I was thrilled that I didn't have to study sciences (although I wanted to). I've heard mixed things about whether it helps or not to study the humanities and then go to med school, rather than the typical bio/chem to med school route. Honestly, I think it is best to study what you love: Your passion will shine out where it matters most, i.e. with professors, your research, etc..

My roommate gave up his professorship at UCSD to become a researcher here -- if you want, I could forward any queries to him.


Public schools can be great. SUNY (New York) is another great system. In fact, one of my advisors is on leave this semester doing research at Stony Brook. I have tried to persuade my brother into going to SUNY Stony Brook, but he rather go to a no-name school closer to a ski mountain. Sigh.


For what its worth, I wish I took a gap year. You'll have plenty of time for academics. Travel a bit, spend some time in Lima, volunteering for some organization in the slums there. See how others live. Help out where you can.

Then go to school. You'll appreciate that perspective.

Thanks for the help. When you say here, what school are you referring to?

Definitely don't need to do biology/biochem/molecular bio as a major to be a successful premed. I majored in biochem and molecular bio and minored in English. If I could do it all over again, I would have definitely majored in English and forgotten about biochem.

Regardless, you have to take the prereqs anyways, and Ochem is the same whether you're a biochem major or an English major.

Premed is really not that difficult, I had plenty of time in college and thoroughly enjoyed my time (beer pong 3x/week, frat parties, the whole nine yards)

If at any time you have questions about the premed process, let me know and I can answer anything.

Thanks I appreciate the help. What school did you go to?
 
I will be playin tennis at UW laCrosse, The nice part is I get the in state tuition for being in Minnesota so it's only $7,500 a year!!!!!!!! I got into their business school. But my dad really wants me to go to the university of Minnesota
 
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Dartmouth College

Wow, that's definitely up there.

I will be playin tennis at UW laCrosse, The nice part is I get the in state tuition for being in Minnesota so it's only $7,500 a year!!!!!!!! I got into their business school. But my dad really wants me to go to the university of Minnesota

I'm not quite understanding it? In state tuition to UW LaCrosse, but you live in MN? Either way, congrats! Hope you enjoy it at LaCrosse.

What makes your dad want you to go to Minnesota?
 

Eph

Professional
Definitely don't need to do biology/biochem/molecular bio as a major to be a successful premed. I majored in biochem and molecular bio and minored in English. If I could do it all over again, I would have definitely majored in English and forgotten about biochem.

What would you have done with the BA in English, if you decided medical school (or another professional school, e.g., law school) wasn't for you?
 
What would you have done with the BA in English, if you decided medical school (or another professional school, e.g., law school) wasn't for you?

I probably would have gotten a PhD in English and become a professor at a university IF I decided Medicine wasn't for me. I have no regrets about medicine so far though; we'll see in the future. The things that irk me about medicine are never medicine itself; it's the paperwork, bureaucracy, and broken-system that permeate every aspect of it.
 

gully

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I probably would have gotten a PhD in English and become a professor at a university IF I decided Medicine wasn't for me. I have no regrets about medicine so far though; we'll see in the future. The things that irk me about medicine are never medicine itself; it's the paperwork, bureaucracy, and broken-system that permeate every aspect of it.
Just a friendly note, from experience: you would have been granted no special dispensation from these evils with a professorship in English! :)
 

Eph

Professional
Wow! I'm still waiting to hear back from them.

If you are coming for any reason, let me know and I can show you around. It's an extremely large place and there are a lot of tourists. I usually take friends to Widener, to see the Memorial Room (where the Gutenberg Bible rests); I cannot take visitors in the stacks.

Yesterday I realized the tourist craze is going to pick up. It was so beautiful outside and the streets were packed. I wish people would remember that this place is still a learning institution. The best part is... most of the tourists (and almost all of the Chineses ones -- at least the ones that come on the daily bus tour) rub their hands on the statue us grad students **** on once we get their degree.

I guess I should stop complaining, since my office is far enough from the Yard, that I don't have to deal with many tourists. But, well, I'm a grouch! :)


Believe it or not, I do like showing people around (on my terms! not those stupid tour groups).
 

Eph

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I probably would have gotten a PhD in English and become a professor at a university IF I decided Medicine wasn't for me. I have no regrets about medicine so far though; we'll see in the future. The things that irk me about medicine are never medicine itself; it's the paperwork, bureaucracy, and broken-system that permeate every aspect of it.

Hopefully? I mean, few professorships open up each year in English. Probably more than my field, but my old roommates is a Classics PhD candidate and he sometimes mused over the fact of slim job prospects later on. He's primarily interested in Sanskrit, but wants to tie it together somehow with English (I'm not too sure... I'm more of a scientific person and most times I would block out what he was saying and just nod). :) Speaking of which, we are having dinner tonight!


My friend gave up on practicing (oncology) and went to work for Novartis. Though, geographically, he's located in Switzerland, so it is a bit easier for him... He also does medical underwriting for a German insurance underwriter at home/on the site. His spouse, on the other hand, runs her own (ophthalmology) practice (however she still hates practicing... but not for those reasons.. at least). Their biggest choice is decided on a Bentley or Rolls-Royce this year (not kidding). I am very fond of the Swiss medical system!
 
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If you are coming for any reason, let me know and I can show you around. It's an extremely large place and there are a lot of tourists. I usually take friends to Widener, to see the Memorial Room (where the Gutenberg Bible rests); I cannot take visitors in the stacks.

Yesterday I realized the tourist craze is going to pick up. It was so beautiful outside and the streets were packed. I wish people would remember that this place is still a learning institution. The best part is... most of the tourists (and almost all of the Chineses ones -- at least the ones that come on the daily bus tour) rub their hands on the statue us grad students **** on once we get their degree.

I guess I should stop complaining, since my office is far enough from the Yard, that I don't have to deal with many tourists. But, well, I'm a grouch! :)


Believe it or not, I do like showing people around (on my terms! not those stupid tour groups).

Great, I will let you know should it happen! Thanks!
 
I'm a junior, and right now my list is looking like

Brown
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Columbia
UMich
Wesleyan
Harvey Mudd

and possibly MIT, although there's probably a 0% chance I'd get in. Brown is probably my first choice, though it could change any minute.
 
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Ok guys, good and bad news.

The bad: Denied at Harvard, Princeton, and Stanford (stanford happened months ago, the other two just today).

Lukewarm: Waitlisted at Yale!

The good/awesome: Accepted at Duke!!!!!!

I've already been accepted to USC, Northwestern, and U of I, but Duke really made my day (waitlisted at Wash U, meh). So excited!

Thanks to everyone for the advice throughout this thread!
 
I'm a junior, and right now my list is looking like

Brown
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Columbia
UMich
Wesleyan
Harvey Mudd

and possibly MIT, although there's probably a 0% chance I'd get in. Brown is probably my first choice, though it could change any minute.

CMU is a top-notch school, with great programs in computer-oriented fields (my brother was an AI major there back when AI was still in its infancy), business, law, and the arts. I wouldn't consider it to be a step down from any of the better-known schools.
 

Yenster

Rookie
I'm a junior right now. I have a 4.17 weighted GPA and a 3.66 non-weighted GPA, and I got around ~1800 on my SATs. I play varsity tennis for going to be three years (co-captain), level 9 piano, played all-Star baseball for a year in high school, and I do a lot volunteer work. I'm also asian :/
Can someone inform me of my chances for getting into the following schools?
UC San Diego, UC Irvine, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Pepperdine University, Occidental University, Pitzer College, Claremont Colleges, or anything in California? Thanks :)
 

Eph

Professional
The bad: Denied at Harvard

It's okay, the undergrads at Harvard, in my experience are extremely lazy (not necessarily w.r.t. academics - I won't comment there) and pretentious.

Congrats on making a choice to go to Duke. Not going to a HYPS (or whatever it is called these days, HYPSCPC, blah blah) school isn't the end of the world.

Spend time getting to know professors, go to their office hours, read about their research and try to help out where you can. That's the key to a good undergraduate education (and learning to moderate the "freedom", so you can have fun, but also work).

Now relax... you deserve it.
 
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Also Mansewerz, do you mind posting your GPA, extracurriculars, etc.?

Sure, no problem.

GPA: 5.87 or so, should go up this semester hopefully.
ACT (I know you didn't ask, but I'll post it for reference): 35
SAT: N/a (didn't take, I prefer the ACT format anyways)
Extracurriculars:
-Varsity Tennis (4 years of tennis, 3 on varsity)
-Newspaper (4 years: Staff writer/designer, Design Editor, Health Editor, Sports Editor were/are my roles throughout the four years, but not all at once of course)
-Model UN (Just senior year, I wish I had done it earlier)
-NHS (Vice President)
-At Home Stringing Business (courtesy of TTW :))
-Mu Alpha Theta (Vice President)
-French Honor Society (Like a nitwit, I forgot to put this on my applications)
-Work Experience as a racquet stringer at a club for 9 months.

That's the basic gist of my apps. If you have any more questions, let me know. I can get into more specifics and whatnot.

It's okay, the undergrads at Harvard, in my experience are extremely lazy (not necessarily w.r.t. academics - I won't comment there) and pretentious.

Congrats on making a choice to go to Duke. Not going to a HYPS (or whatever it is called these days, HYPSCPC, blah blah) school isn't the end of the world.

Spend time getting to know professors, go to their office hours, read about their research and try to help out where you can. That's the key to a good undergraduate education (and learning to moderate the "freedom", so you can have fun, but also work).

Now relax... you deserve it.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Not too bummed. I was hoping to leave Illinois and go to a top tier school, and Duke is up there. I'll definitely take your advice and get to know my professors and whatnot.
 

The Wreck

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You live in Illinois and didn't want to go to the University of Chicago?!? Gah, what's up with that?

You've gotten into some great school, so don't worry about the ones you didn't. I think where you go for undergrad is pretty overrated anyway. I considered all the Ivy's and Duke and what not, but when it came down to it, getting a free education for undergrad (UGA) and then moving on to a higher profile school for grad work, if I choose to do so, made more sense.

You're clearly a bright kid, so college will probably be pretty easy for you wherever you go, as long as you're focused/dedicated.
 
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You live in Illinois and didn't want to go to the University of Chicago?!? Gah, what's up with that?

You've gotten into some great school, so don't worry about the ones you didn't. I think where you go for undergrad is pretty overrated anyway. I considered all the Ivy's and Duke and what not, but when it came down to it, getting a free education for undergrad (UGA) and then moving on to a higher profile school for grad work, if I choose to do so, made more sense.

You're clearly a bright kid, so college will probably be pretty easy for you wherever you go, as long as you're focused/dedicated.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I hope to stay focused and dedicated in college, but it may be tough! :)

And one of my big reasons for the Ivy's/Duke/NU, etc had to do with financial aid. In my situation, it made more sense to go to one of those schools.

And re: U of C, I feel that U of C isn't for me. It's pretty intense, not as much fun (as the saying goes), and I want to have a good time at my undergrad school. Plus, i'd like to leave Illinois.
 

Eph

Professional
Advice about college

(I was writing this as an addendum to my other post, however, I just spent an hour on the phone and then I was locked out of my house (with no phone, computer, eyeglasses, etc etc and finally, after a long session with a hammer, against wood and steel, I won and am back in my house). I saw you updated the thread. I wanted to make sure you -- and others -- read this.)


Don't get caught up in the inane first year ******** most schools spew. Focus on meeting faculty. This is most important: Never ever feel intimidated to approach faculty[/b]. By definition, they are teachers, educators... people you learn from. I have only met two professors who had no interest in talking with me during my entire school experience (I've been around for awhile... I started college when I was 16, spent time at various schools and I'm finishing my PhD now).

I know professors can seem intimidated and they are very, very busy people, but (most) do care about teaching. If they did not care about teaching, they would have chose a research position, not a professorship, which includes a teaching competent.

If your first email goes unanswered, do not be afraid to email again: Sometimes a professor is away for the weekend at a conference, at a retreat (of all sorts, not just religiously based), or even sabbatical. You may or may not get an auto-reply in these circumstances (or others I have not mentioned), a lot of professors are forgetful, especially when it comes to technology. Perhaps your first email ended in their SPAM inbox (it happens all the time!) and they never saw it. Or too much email piled up in their inbox(for whatever reason) and they filtered emails from new contacts to another folder that is meant to be dealt with at a later point (and rarely gets dealt with).

Do not be afraid to make yourself known. Hell, after all, you are paying for your education (and for them to be there). If you can't make scheduled office hours (for whatever reason), email the professor and set up a time (make sure you are there 5 minutes early) and be prepared to wait.

A story: One professor I know tells students that when they come to scheduled office hours (2 hour session once a week) to "bring a book [...] I will stay as long as students want to see me, but be prepared to wait a long time". He regularly stays past 10pm (his weekly office hour is usually from 2-4).

N.B. This advice applies for faculty/researchers at other institutions as well, iff you have good reason to contact them (e.g. your research leads you to one of their papers and you have a question, concern or are interested in collaboration). This shouldn't be an issue in your first year (probably not until thesis time, but possibly earlier).


Finally, do not be afraid to contact professors you aren't taking courses with (or outside of your department). The aforementioned rules apply.





I know I went on and on and on but a lot of students are intimidated to approach professors and they lose out. My fiancée was one of them. There is no reason to be.

Also, if you ever have any personal problems and it is affecting your work in a specific class, go speak to your professor as soon as possible (skip the TF/TA/whatever). Most likely they will listen and try to help you in your situation, as best they can. Some will even lie to the Registrar's Office/administrators, if they feel like it.

Here's a fairly common example: If grades are due to the Registrar's Office from professors on a certain date and you haven't turned in a portion of the work for a valid reason, viz. death in the family, new mental or physical illness, a chronic illness that took an unexpected turn, etc, a professor and you may reach an agreement for you to agree on a timetable for a guaranteed grade assigned in advance. S/he can never change that grade, whatever s/he decided, and if the administration found out s/he assigned a permanent grade, affirming you earned that grade based on the requirements locked into place with the Registrar's Office, the professor would have a headache to deal with. And if you didn't follow the timeline and the rules established with the professor, I would recommend transferring. :) You'll learn rather quickly that professors do not always enjoy the administrator's that run the school (you'll see the bureaucracy at work almost immediately).

But if the professor does not know you, it's harder for them to help you (in any way). So, get to know your professors (and other professors of interest) as soon as possible. In sum, do not be nervous.

Hope this helps.


N.B. I read a lot about professors who are not available to students from various sources, everything from college newspaper op-eds (complaining), to "experts"(********ting), to the national media (tiring). and worst, posts on various websites regarding college from kids or parents (uninformed). Supposedly this is rampant at Harvard (and other places I have studied). Utter ********. Just set up a meeting. I've personally seen faculty talk to students for hours about switching majors into the professor's field but the student has various questions (from personal, to academic to careers/plans afterwards, etc..) I once asked said professor why he would do this (I was pretty shocked, to be frank) and he said "If I can spend an hour or so talking with someone to help them learn physics or to help them figure out where they are going in life, why not? I have plenty of hours for that." Great attitude, I thought, and I try to follow the same principle.
 
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Very informative, thank you. An excellent contribution to this thread.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but most of my uni choices have a pretty massive undergraduate attendance and I've been told undergrad classes can have up to hundreds of students. I'm not too sure how big classes at Harvard are, but with a prof having to deal with hundreds of kids, with maybe a solid percentage with just as many questions as you, are setting up meetings with prof usually hit or miss?
 

The Wreck

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Very informative, thank you. An excellent contribution to this thread.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but most of my uni choices have a pretty massive undergraduate attendance and I've been told undergrad classes can have up to hundreds of students. I'm not too sure how big classes at Harvard are, but with a prof having to deal with hundreds of kids, with maybe a solid percentage with just as many questions as you, are setting up meetings with prof usually hit or miss?

In a class that big you will likely have multiple Teaching Assistants that you can meet with. And in my experiences, they are the ones grading all your assignments anyway.

That's not to say you can't meet with professors and things like that, but in massive classes (which are usually bland required courses anyway) it's usually not worth it. When you get into major specific things with smaller classes, go talk to your professors all the time. You're gonna be glad they all know you and can help you at some point.
 
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(I was writing this as an addendum to my other post, however, I just spent an hour on the phone and then I was locked out of my house (with no phone, computer, eyeglasses, etc etc and finally, after a long session with a hammer, against wood and steel, I won and am back in my house). I saw you updated the thread. I wanted to make sure you -- and others -- read this.)


Don't get caught up in the inane first year ******** most schools spew. Focus on meeting faculty. This is most important: Never ever feel intimidated to approach faculty[/b]. By definition, they are teachers, educators... people you learn from. I have only met two professors who had no interest in talking with me during my entire school experience (I've been around for awhile... I started college when I was 16, spent time at various schools and I'm finishing my PhD now).

I know professors can seem intimidated and they are very, very busy people, but (most) do care about teaching. If they did not care about teaching, they would have chose a research position, not a professorship, which includes a teaching competent.

If your first email goes unanswered, do not be afraid to email again: Sometimes a professor is away for the weekend at a conference, at a retreat (of all sorts, not just religiously based), or even sabbatical. You may or may not get an auto-reply in these circumstances (or others I have not mentioned), a lot of professors are forgetful, especially when it comes to technology. Perhaps your first email ended in their SPAM inbox (it happens all the time!) and they never saw it. Or too much email piled up in their inbox(for whatever reason) and they filtered emails from new contacts to another folder that is meant to be dealt with at a later point (and rarely gets dealt with).

Do not be afraid to make yourself known. Hell, after all, you are paying for your education (and for them to be there). If you can't make scheduled office hours (for whatever reason), email the professor and set up a time (make sure you are there 5 minutes early) and be prepared to wait.

A story: One professor I know tells students that when they come to scheduled office hours (2 hour session once a week) to "bring a book [...] I will stay as long as students want to see me, but be prepared to wait a long time". He regularly stays past 10pm (his weekly office hour is usually from 2-4).

N.B. This advice applies for faculty/researchers at other institutions as well, iff you have good reason to contact them (e.g. your research leads you to one of their papers and you have a question, concern or are interested in collaboration). This shouldn't be an issue in your first year (probably not until thesis time, but possibly earlier).


Finally, do not be afraid to contact professors you aren't taking courses with (or outside of your department). The aforementioned rules apply.





I know I went on and on and on but a lot of students are intimidated to approach professors and they lose out. My fiancée was one of them. There is no reason to be.

Also, if you ever have any personal problems and it is affecting your work in a specific class, go speak to your professor as soon as possible (skip the TF/TA/whatever). Most likely they will listen and try to help you in your situation, as best they can. Some will even lie to the Registrar's Office/administrators, if they feel like it.

Here's a fairly common example: If grades are due to the Registrar's Office from professors on a certain date and you haven't turned in a portion of the work for a valid reason, viz. death in the family, new mental or physical illness, a chronic illness that took an unexpected turn, etc, a professor and you may reach an agreement for you to agree on a timetable for a guaranteed grade assigned in advance. S/he can never change that grade, whatever s/he decided, and if the administration found out s/he assigned a permanent grade, affirming you earned that grade based on the requirements locked into place with the Registrar's Office, the professor would have a headache to deal with. And if you didn't follow the timeline and the rules established with the professor, I would recommend transferring. :) You'll learn rather quickly that professors do not always enjoy the administrator's that run the school (you'll see the bureaucracy at work almost immediately).

But if the professor does not know you, it's harder for them to help you (in any way). So, get to know your professors (and other professors of interest) as soon as possible. In sum, do not be nervous.

Hope this helps.


N.B. I read a lot about professors who are not available to students from various sources, everything from college newspaper op-eds (complaining), to "experts"(********ting), to the national media (tiring). and worst, posts on various websites regarding college from kids or parents (uninformed). Supposedly this is rampant at Harvard (and other places I have studied). Utter ********. Just set up a meeting. I've personally seen faculty talk to students for hours about switching majors into the professor's field but the student has various questions (from personal, to academic to careers/plans afterwards, etc..) I once asked said professor why he would do this (I was pretty shocked, to be frank) and he said "If I can spend an hour or so talking with someone to help them learn physics or to help them figure out where they are going in life, why not? I have plenty of hours for that." Great attitude, I thought, and I try to follow the same principle.

Wow, 5 star post there! Definitely helps. Once again, thank you!
 
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Duke is great, congrats

Thanks! Part of me still wants to go to USC because it's in LA and Durham is much smaller. I've heard Durham isn't much of a "college" town. But, Duke is a better school and I've heard that i'll be spending most of my time at school anyways, so the surrounding area isn't too big of a deal. That's what i've heard from people that go to school in the Chicago, which is an hour or so from me.
 

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Deciding what to do afterwards is daunting. Next year will be my final year of a masters in chemistry.. really need to generate some ideas in summer! I could study further, but I'm so at the stage where I would like a job outside of researh.
 

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I'm a junior right now. I have a 4.17 weighted GPA and a 3.66 non-weighted GPA, and I got around ~1800 on my SATs. I play varsity tennis for going to be three years (co-captain), level 9 piano, played all-Star baseball for a year in high school, and I do a lot volunteer work. I'm also asian :/
Can someone inform me of my chances for getting into the following schools?
UC San Diego, UC Irvine, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Pepperdine University, Occidental University, Pitzer College, Claremont Colleges, or anything in California? Thanks :)

no shot at berkeley, pomona, claremont mckenna. ucla looks like slim chance, too. your sat is very low for most of the schools above. the others ones seem fine though

edit: public schools are mostly gpa and sat based and put little weight on volunteer work, etc.
 
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no shot at berkeley, pomona, claremont mckenna. ucla looks like slim chance, too. your sat is very low for most of the schools above. the others ones seem fine though

edit: public schools are mostly gpa and sat based and put little weight on volunteer work, etc.

Not sure how right tennisnoob3 is as I don't know a whole lot about those schools. But, check this site out: cappex.com

It gives a kind of chart to somewhat judge your chances of getting into a particular school. And if the chance is there, why not try? Then again, apps do cost a good deal of money, ranging in prices from $50 to $90.
 

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Not sure how right tennisnoob3 is as I don't know a whole lot about those schools. But, check this site out: cappex.com

It gives a kind of chart to somewhat judge your chances of getting into a particular school. And if the chance is there, why not try? Then again, apps do cost a good deal of money, ranging in prices from $50 to $90.

LOL? do they charge you for that?

just look at sat/act scores. you want to be above the 50%(percentile) and preferably in the 75% when given. (collegeboard gives 50% and i think the us news book gives you 25/75 percentiles)

it varies a bit for each school as some "schools" within a university are harder to get into. generally nursing and education schools are easier to get into
 
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LOL? do they charge you for that?

just look at sat/act scores. you want to be above the 50%(percentile) and preferably in the 75% when given. (collegeboard gives 50% and i think the us news book gives you 25/75 percentiles)

it varies a bit for each school as some "schools" within a university are harder to get into. generally nursing and education schools are easier to get into

Haha yup, unless you can demonstrate financial need, in which case you receive a waiver. Good advice btw on the ACT/SAT scores.

Also, take into consideration the school's requirements, if they demand ACT/SAT. If you're better at one and not the other, report that score.
 
So I got my first SAT scores back, which wasn't bad. 2160, without preparing at all. I think I'm gonna study a bit and take it again, and I'm also taking an ACT prep course cause I got a 34 on a practice ACT. We'll see how it goes.
 
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Junior then? Congrats on the 34, it's a solid score and good enough for anywhere. I personally liked the ACT better.
 
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