Unlike you, I know real Novak Djokovic

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– boos will hurt sensitive superstar​


Serb is not the bane of men’s tennis, he is a generous and gracious man who has risen from adversity. Audiences at SW19 and beyond need to start appreciating a true colossus​

Matthew Syed

Wednesday July 10 2024, 11.30pm BST, The Times

I’m often asked about the most memorable moment I’ve witnessed at Wimbledon. Roger Federer’s backhand at match point down against Rafael Nadal in the fourth-set tie-break in 2008, Goran Ivanisevic on his knees praying for the final point that would hand him victory, Steffi Graf coming back against Jana Novotna? All wonderful.
But perhaps I may also mention what happened after Andy Murray’s famous triumph in 2013 and, in particular, the post-match interview with Novak Djokovic, his opponent. Understandably the crowd had been against the Serb. When he won a point, there was something close to silence; when his opponent hit a winner, there was a roar of ecstasy. That can’t have been easy for a 26-year-old playing away from home.

And yet there wasn’t a hint of negativity or bitterness in Djokovic’s courtside interview, only a willingness to see the bigger picture of a nation celebrating its first male win for decades. “Congratulations to Andy,” he said. “You absolutely deserve this win. You played incredible tennis. Congratulations to his team. I know how much it means to them, and how much it means to you guys, and the whole country. It was a pleasure to be a part of this final.”

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

We often talk about the way sport teaches children how to win but there’s a more important lesson: it teaches us how to lose. Djokovic’s graciousness has been conspicuous pretty much since he arrived on the ATP Tour (if you doubt this, look at his magnanimity after defeat by Carlos Alcaraz last year or, indeed, any other loss over the past decade and a half). In this he is not alone, by the way: his two great rivals, Federer and Nadal, share this humane characteristic.
But something has always confused me about Djokovic. It is not just when he plays Murray at Wimbledon that the crowd is against him; it’s not just in SW19; indeed it’s not just in grand-slam events. Wherever he goes, whatever he does, he meets a striking and at times vindictive one-sidedness. I have seen this up close many times: the catcalling, the booing, the personal insults, the deliberate shouting out during the ball toss, you name it.

I should perhaps say that I strongly disagreed with Djokovic’s stance on vaccines (and said so at the time) but the antipathy predated any of this. It was there when he was the on-court joker, doing impressions of his fellow players, a young man desperate to be liked. It was there when he was world No3, world No2, world No1, and again now he has lost the top spot. Today it has become almost a rite of passage in all his matches, like swallows at the start of spring.

There has been much debate about whether spectators in his fourth-round match were shouting “boo” or “Rune” (the name of his Danish opponent, Holger Rune) but this misses the point. In pretty much every match Djokovic plays he suffers not just from a crowd on the side of his opponent but a minority who seek to throw him off his stride and who seem to be shown way more latitude than if they did this to someone else. If spectators sought to discombobulate Federer, fellow audience members would turn on them. As Djokovic put it on Monday: “I’ve been on the tour for more than 20 years, so trust me, I know all the tricks. I know how it works.”

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

I know many readers think the nastiness towards Djokovic is eminently justified, that he is a terrible person, that he is the bane of men’s tennis. I’d merely point out that this singular champion rose from adversity (as a child, he lived through the bombing of Belgrade), trained diligently to rise to the top during the most formidable era in the history of men’s tennis, and has invariably treated practice partners, the press and support staff with respect and courtesy.
I have interviewed him many times, so perhaps have a perspective that reaches beyond the armchair critics who believe they can discern deep moral failings in someone they’ve never met. He is polite, curious, interested in the world, always punctual, never fails to answer questions and, on one occasion, when our chat overran by an hour in Monaco, jumped from the restaurant table and offered to organise a helicopter to take me to the airport and then put a piece of cake in a cardboard box so I could enjoy pudding on the way home. “I couldn’t let you miss this,” he said with a wink. I’m not saying he is perfect by any means but neither is Federer nor Nadal nor Serena Williams. Believe me.

Another moment that will always stay with me is the Wimbledon final against Federer in 2019: still the most pulsating day of sport (the 50-over cricket World Cup final between England and New Zealand was taking place at the same time). I’d say 99.9 per cent (or thereabouts) of the audience was against the Serb, perhaps even more so than during the 2013 final. Some say that Djokovic feeds off antipathy but this is nonsense. As with all human beings, he wants to be liked. Indeed it took him years to develop techniques to cope with social rejection — a point he’s made to me many times.
At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.



I make no apology for admiring Djokovic, for believing he is the most impressive sportsman of my lifetime, for glimpsing in his resilience something of the greatness of our species. I’ve come to recognise that he will probably never be forgiven for gatecrashing the duopoly of Federer and Nadal, never tolerated for playing with such ruthless efficiency, never accepted for continuing to win at the age of 37, after operations that might have felled others.

But I do hope a critical mass of people will at least agree that the catcalling and personal insults should stop. He may not be your cup of tea but the journey from cramp-ridden pretender to tennis colossus has many of the ingredients Hollywood would recognise. From audiences, at SW19 and beyond, he surely deserves better.
 
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The boos cheer Djokovic on. He uses it to his advantage 95% of the time. He’s great at it.

What he hates deep down is that he is not and never will be respected as much by the fans who love and prefer Nadal and Federer more. He doesn’t understand why whenever he faces an underdog he gets cheered against. He’s just not liked as much. And he just needs to come to turns with it.
 
The boos cheer Djokovic on. He uses it to his advantage 95% of the time. He’s great at it.

What he hates deep down is that he is not and never will be respected as much by the fans who love and prefer Nadal and Federer more. He doesn’t understand why whenever he faces an underdog he gets cheered against. He’s just not liked as much. And he just needs to come to turns with it.
That isn’t to say the man isn’t still adored by many and loved by many but nothing compared to Fed or Nadal and it’s clear he hates it and fights for it. He’s the more accomplished player but the tennis community will never love him like we do the other 2.
 
The boos cheer Djokovic on. He uses it to his advantage 95% of the time. He’s great at it.

What he hates deep down is that he is not and never will be respected as much by the fans who love and prefer Nadal and Federer more. He doesn’t understand why whenever he faces an underdog he gets cheered against. He’s just not liked as much. And he just needs to come to turns with it.
cuz he fake.
 

At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.​

Goosebumps.
 
Well not to be a killjoy but Federer hit the same pass to break serve in the previous game; it's not memorable because it wasn't on match point.

Okay, carry on.
 
At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.
This was the greatest example for that mans mental fortitude. Even though I don't like him, I will respect that part of him all my life.
 
At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.
Hands down the worst paragraph of tennis journalism I’ve ever read
 
Goosebumps.
Yeah agree, superbly articulated. I could relive that moment. I felt bad for Roger in that moment too, what a story as a 37 yr old willing himself to another great moment but man o man Novak Djokovic had the world against him but the Tennis gods firmly on his side. The better player lost. I had mixed feelings, rooting for Novak and NZ in cricket.
 
I make no apology for admiring Djokovic, for believing he is the most impressive sportsman of my lifetime, for glimpsing in his resilience something of the greatness of our species. I’ve come to recognise that he will probably never be forgiven for gatecrashing the duopoly of Federer and Nadal, never tolerated for playing with such ruthless efficiency, never accepted for continuing to win at the age of 37, after operations that might have felled others.


lol. Poll Question: This guy is which Nole fanatic from this site?
 
That isn’t to say the man isn’t still adored by many and loved by many but nothing compared to Fed or Nadal and it’s clear he hates it and fights for it. He’s the more accomplished player but the tennis community will never love him like we do the other 2.
Thats the thing though, fans do not see him as more accomplished. Look at his slam spread and when they came.
I have no idea if he reads social media, if he really does manage his own X account (i would be astonished if he did) then he would see the stat padding posts which are incessant.
It may be we are all looking at this wrong as well, it may have nothing to do with Fedal as actually his whole persona has got much more sour since the emergence of Alcaraz and Sinner as top dogs.
 

– boos will hurt sensitive superstar​


Serb is not the bane of men’s tennis, he is a generous and gracious man who has risen from adversity. Audiences at SW19 and beyond need to start appreciating a true colossus​

Matthew Syed

Wednesday July 10 2024, 11.30pm BST, The Times

I’m often asked about the most memorable moment I’ve witnessed at Wimbledon. Roger Federer’s backhand at match point down against Rafael Nadal in the fourth-set tie-break in 2008, Goran Ivanisevic on his knees praying for the final point that would hand him victory, Steffi Graf coming back against Jana Novotna? All wonderful.
But perhaps I may also mention what happened after Andy Murray’s famous triumph in 2013 and, in particular, the post-match interview with Novak Djokovic, his opponent. Understandably the crowd had been against the Serb. When he won a point, there was something close to silence; when his opponent hit a winner, there was a roar of ecstasy. That can’t have been easy for a 26-year-old playing away from home.

And yet there wasn’t a hint of negativity or bitterness in Djokovic’s courtside interview, only a willingness to see the bigger picture of a nation celebrating its first male win for decades. “Congratulations to Andy,” he said. “You absolutely deserve this win. You played incredible tennis. Congratulations to his team. I know how much it means to them, and how much it means to you guys, and the whole country. It was a pleasure to be a part of this final.”

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

We often talk about the way sport teaches children how to win but there’s a more important lesson: it teaches us how to lose. Djokovic’s graciousness has been conspicuous pretty much since he arrived on the ATP Tour (if you doubt this, look at his magnanimity after defeat by Carlos Alcaraz last year or, indeed, any other loss over the past decade and a half). In this he is not alone, by the way: his two great rivals, Federer and Nadal, share this humane characteristic.
But something has always confused me about Djokovic. It is not just when he plays Murray at Wimbledon that the crowd is against him; it’s not just in SW19; indeed it’s not just in grand-slam events. Wherever he goes, whatever he does, he meets a striking and at times vindictive one-sidedness. I have seen this up close many times: the catcalling, the booing, the personal insults, the deliberate shouting out during the ball toss, you name it.

I should perhaps say that I strongly disagreed with Djokovic’s stance on vaccines (and said so at the time) but the antipathy predated any of this. It was there when he was the on-court joker, doing impressions of his fellow players, a young man desperate to be liked. It was there when he was world No3, world No2, world No1, and again now he has lost the top spot. Today it has become almost a rite of passage in all his matches, like swallows at the start of spring.

There has been much debate about whether spectators in his fourth-round match were shouting “boo” or “Rune” (the name of his Danish opponent, Holger Rune) but this misses the point. In pretty much every match Djokovic plays he suffers not just from a crowd on the side of his opponent but a minority who seek to throw him off his stride and who seem to be shown way more latitude than if they did this to someone else. If spectators sought to discombobulate Federer, fellow audience members would turn on them. As Djokovic put it on Monday: “I’ve been on the tour for more than 20 years, so trust me, I know all the tricks. I know how it works.”

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

I know many readers think the nastiness towards Djokovic is eminently justified, that he is a terrible person, that he is the bane of men’s tennis. I’d merely point out that this singular champion rose from adversity (as a child, he lived through the bombing of Belgrade), trained diligently to rise to the top during the most formidable era in the history of men’s tennis, and has invariably treated practice partners, the press and support staff with respect and courtesy.
I have interviewed him many times, so perhaps have a perspective that reaches beyond the armchair critics who believe they can discern deep moral failings in someone they’ve never met. He is polite, curious, interested in the world, always punctual, never fails to answer questions and, on one occasion, when our chat overran by an hour in Monaco, jumped from the restaurant table and offered to organise a helicopter to take me to the airport and then put a piece of cake in a cardboard box so I could enjoy pudding on the way home. “I couldn’t let you miss this,” he said with a wink. I’m not saying he is perfect by any means but neither is Federer nor Nadal nor Serena Williams. Believe me.

Another moment that will always stay with me is the Wimbledon final against Federer in 2019: still the most pulsating day of sport (the 50-over cricket World Cup final between England and New Zealand was taking place at the same time). I’d say 99.9 per cent (or thereabouts) of the audience was against the Serb, perhaps even more so than during the 2013 final. Some say that Djokovic feeds off antipathy but this is nonsense. As with all human beings, he wants to be liked. Indeed it took him years to develop techniques to cope with social rejection — a point he’s made to me many times.
At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.



I make no apology for admiring Djokovic, for believing he is the most impressive sportsman of my lifetime, for glimpsing in his resilience something of the greatness of our species. I’ve come to recognise that he will probably never be forgiven for gatecrashing the duopoly of Federer and Nadal, never tolerated for playing with such ruthless efficiency, never accepted for continuing to win at the age of 37, after operations that might have felled others.

But I do hope a critical mass of people will at least agree that the catcalling and personal insults should stop. He may not be your cup of tea but the journey from cramp-ridden pretender to tennis colossus has many of the ingredients Hollywood would recognise. From audiences, at SW19 and beyond, he surely deserves better.
Very good article, thanks for sharing OP
 
Thats the thing though, fans do not see him as more accomplished. Look at his slam spread and when they came.
I have no idea if he reads social media, if he really does manage his own X account (i would be astonished if he did) then he would see the stat padding posts which are incessant.
It may be we are all looking at this wrong as well, it may have nothing to do with Fedal as actually his whole persona has got much more sour since the emergence of Alcaraz and Sinner as top dogs.
His persona was always sour though. He’s been scaring and yelling at ball kids and hitting balls at lineswoman since long before Alcaraz and Sinner came along. It’s just who Novak is as a person. He’s a great player but he’ll never get the love due to his actions.
 
His persona was always sour though. He’s been scaring and yelling at ball kids and hitting balls at lineswoman since long before Alcaraz and Sinner came along. It’s just who Novak is as a person. He’s a great player but he’ll never get the love due to his actions.
Thats the thing, he wasnt always like that. I noticed a change after he lost to Nadal at RG 2020. But this season he has been the worse ive seen him in his career and it does confuse me as to why, and the comments regarding Lacoste are equally confusing.
 
God the sport is so dead when we’re doing the “Novak Djokovic the unloved champ” discourse for the millionth time. Crazy how much traffic it still generates too looking at the replies to some threads on here.
Surely if the sport is so dead you should be doing something else with your time? It’s like 24/7 negativity from you. All I seem to read is how crappy tennis is today and what a weak tennis era we live in.

Give it a rest man
 
Thats the thing, he wasnt always like that. I noticed a change after he lost to Nadal at RG 2020. But this season he has been the worse ive seen him in his career and it does confuse me as to why, and the comments regarding Lacoste are equally confusing.
Yeah criticising a long time sponsor like that is just weird. I tried to joke about it and say he’s trying to be in his villain era (Taylor Swift style) but it’s beyond bizarre. Just bad PR from him, not that he’s had really good PR… lest we bring up the Covid drama.
 
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Thats the thing, he wasnt always like that. I noticed a change after he lost to Nadal at RG 2020. But this season he has been the worse ive seen him in his career and it does confuse me as to why, and the comments regarding Lacoste are equally confusing.
Now he knows he’s the GOAT. Despite the booing crowds he’s got millions of fans. He simply doesn’t care any more. He won.
 
Now he knows he’s the GOAT. Despite the booing crowds he’s got millions of fans. He simply doesn’t care any more. He won.
That is the most strange take i have seen. If he knows he is GOAT, why would he cut such a frustrated angry figure? To me it seems the exact opposite in that despite holding most records, not being seen as GOAT has got to him. Obviously it could be something else, i have no real idea i am just speculating, but clearly something is bothering him.
Sampras was never that popular, Agassi was always the more popular, but Pete never had a pop at his own sponsors saying millions loved his game. Sampras actually had much of the same issues Novak has, albeit there was no social media back then.
The contrast between Sampras and Djokovic cannot be more telling. Sampras knew he won his era, and just disappeared into the sunlight without needing to say anything.
 
That is the most strange take i have seen. If he knows he is GOAT, why would he cut such a frustrated angry figure? To me it seems the exact opposite in that despite holding most records, not being seen as GOAT has got to him. Obviously it could be something else, i have no real idea i am just speculating, but clearly something is bothering him.
Sampras was never that popular, Agassi was always the more popular, but Pete never had a pop at his own sponsors saying millions loved his game. Sampras actually had much of the same issues Novak has, albeit there was no social media back then.
The contrast between Sampras and Djokovic cannot be more telling. Sampras knew he won his era, and just disappeared into the sunlight without needing to say anything.

Novak is widely recognized as the tennis GOAT by practically all experts (journalists, commentators and other players). There’s really no debate anymore other than some isolated fans in Internet forums and even there they are in the minority
 
Surely if the sport is so dead you should be doing something else with your time? It’s like 24/7 negativity from you. All I seem to read is how crappy tennis is today and what a weak tennis era we live in.

Give it a rest man
I’m the only one actually talking about tennis!
 
I’m the only one actually talking about tennis!
All you do is complain day in and day out. We get it, you don’t like today’s tennis. But who’s forcing you to watch it? It’s like the posters that show up to complain about Novak’s playing style and how much they hate it… in a Novak match thread! :X3:
 
Novak is widely recognized as the tennis GOAT by practically all experts (journalists, commentators and other players). There’s really no debate anymore other than some isolated fans in Internet forums and even there they are in the minority
Which experts? I have hardly seen any say he is GOAT. The locker room in general says Nadal, on both the ATP and WTA.
Kyrgios says Djokovic, Rob koening does, and a few commentators for sure. Interestingly none of the Big 3 rivals who played them alot say Djokovic. Murray hasnt, Federer hasnt. Del Potro hasnt, wawrinka hasnt, Ferrer hasnt, and i would suggest they would be the guys best placed to judge as they played all three at their respective peaks.
 
Surely if the sport is so dead you should be doing something else with your time? It’s like 24/7 negativity from you. All I seem to read is how crappy tennis is today and what a weak tennis era we live in.

Give it a rest man
This coming from the guy who claims he hates hypothetical matchup debates, yet comes into every single one them to complain about them :unsure:
 
All you do is complain day in and day out. We get it, you don’t like today’s tennis. But who’s forcing you to watch it? It’s like the posters that show up to complain about Novak’s playing style and how much they hate it… in a Novak match thread! :X3:
I do like it! That’s why I watch! That’s the entire point! Some complaints here and there never outweigh my love for watching and discussing the game. Just today I started a thread on Musetti’s Wimbledon achievements and playing style.

It may be a weak era, but it’s the only era we’ve got
 
I do like it! That’s why I watch! That’s the entire point! Some complaints here and there never outweigh my love for watching and discussing the game. Just today I started a thread on Musetti’s Wimbledon achievements and playing style.

It may be a weak era, but it’s the only era we’ve got
Not being funny but Musetti hasnt really done much to be in a W SF other than prove few players can play on the stuff. He is going to be embarrassed tomorrow. I like the guy but his swings are far too long for grass and against a half decent grass courter let alone one of the grass ATGs that will get ruthlessly exposed.
 
Now he knows he’s the GOAT. Despite the booing crowds he’s got millions of fans. He simply doesn’t care any more. He won.
not just that. he triad to please a lot of peaple. but i think that after AO22 cirkus and nordamerica buns that went over all humanity borders he just doas not give a **** about haters. he knows that it is more than just sport and that it doas not matter what he do it was allways and allways will be politic that rule the world and sport as a big part of it.
 
Now he knows he’s the GOAT. Despite the booing crowds he’s got millions of fans. He simply doesn’t care any more. He won.
He certainly doesn’t act like he knows it, nor does he act like he doesn’t care. Why else would he go out of his way to troll people in the audience just for cheering for his opponent? It’s been explained to him multiple times now that they weren’t even booing him but cheering for Rune. Joker’s just hyper sensitive and incredibly thin skinned.
 
He certainly doesn’t act like he knows it, nor does he act like he doesn’t care. Why else would he go out of his way to troll people in the audience just for cheering for his opponent? It’s been explained to him multiple times now that they weren’t even booing him but cheering for Rune. Joker’s just hyper sensitive and incredibly thin skinned.
At the end of the day...

Djoker knows... he knows...

It is always there, and it bothers him.
 
Novak is widely recognized as the tennis GOAT by practically all experts (journalists, commentators and other players). There’s really no debate anymore other than some isolated fans in Internet forums and even there they are in the minority

If he is widely recognized, he should not get perturbed like that.
 
Novak is widely recognized as the tennis GOAT by practically all experts (journalists, commentators and other players). There’s really no debate anymore other than some isolated fans in Internet forums and even there they are in the minority
The career slam record has only become a yardstick in the eyes of tennis pundits relatively recently, largely due to it changing hands relatively frequently after Sampras’ mentor revived interest in it. Watch McEnroe’s documentary where he states after beating Borg in the 1980 USO final: ’Thank God I don’t have to go to Australia‘ - to stop Borg achieving the CYGS - because even by the 80s none of the top pros gave a rats about Emerson’s tainted record, and the AO was about as big in the tennis world as our golf AO is today. The CYGS was and is the ultimate measure of tennis immortality, precisely because of the unparalleled accumulation of pressure in a single year, not mere accumulation of trophies over decades.
 
His persona was always sour though. He’s been scaring and yelling at ball kids and hitting balls at lineswoman since long before Alcaraz and Sinner came along. It’s just who Novak is as a person. He’s a great player but he’ll never get the love due to his actions.
it didn't happen
 
Which experts? I have hardly seen any say he is GOAT. The locker room in general says Nadal, on both the ATP and WTA.
Kyrgios says Djokovic, Rob koening does, and a few commentators for sure. Interestingly none of the Big 3 rivals who played them alot say Djokovic. Murray hasnt, Federer hasnt. Del Potro hasnt, wawrinka hasnt, Ferrer hasnt, and i would suggest they would be the guys best placed to judge as they played all three at their respective peaks.

You forgot about McEnroe, Courrier, Chrissy. Wawrinka said Novak was the GOAT, Thiem too, Monfils, Simon. It really isn't a debate. I won't call him the GOAT because i have healthy respect for prior generations, i don't need to feel everything i saw was the greatest thing ever but one thing is for sure, Djokovic is the greatest player of his generation. It's futile to try and make a case for Roger or Rafa
 

– boos will hurt sensitive superstar​


Serb is not the bane of men’s tennis, he is a generous and gracious man who has risen from adversity. Audiences at SW19 and beyond need to start appreciating a true colossus​

Matthew Syed

Wednesday July 10 2024, 11.30pm BST, The Times

I’m often asked about the most memorable moment I’ve witnessed at Wimbledon. Roger Federer’s backhand at match point down against Rafael Nadal in the fourth-set tie-break in 2008, Goran Ivanisevic on his knees praying for the final point that would hand him victory, Steffi Graf coming back against Jana Novotna? All wonderful.
But perhaps I may also mention what happened after Andy Murray’s famous triumph in 2013 and, in particular, the post-match interview with Novak Djokovic, his opponent. Understandably the crowd had been against the Serb. When he won a point, there was something close to silence; when his opponent hit a winner, there was a roar of ecstasy. That can’t have been easy for a 26-year-old playing away from home.

And yet there wasn’t a hint of negativity or bitterness in Djokovic’s courtside interview, only a willingness to see the bigger picture of a nation celebrating its first male win for decades. “Congratulations to Andy,” he said. “You absolutely deserve this win. You played incredible tennis. Congratulations to his team. I know how much it means to them, and how much it means to you guys, and the whole country. It was a pleasure to be a part of this final.”

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

We often talk about the way sport teaches children how to win but there’s a more important lesson: it teaches us how to lose. Djokovic’s graciousness has been conspicuous pretty much since he arrived on the ATP Tour (if you doubt this, look at his magnanimity after defeat by Carlos Alcaraz last year or, indeed, any other loss over the past decade and a half). In this he is not alone, by the way: his two great rivals, Federer and Nadal, share this humane characteristic.
But something has always confused me about Djokovic. It is not just when he plays Murray at Wimbledon that the crowd is against him; it’s not just in SW19; indeed it’s not just in grand-slam events. Wherever he goes, whatever he does, he meets a striking and at times vindictive one-sidedness. I have seen this up close many times: the catcalling, the booing, the personal insults, the deliberate shouting out during the ball toss, you name it.

I should perhaps say that I strongly disagreed with Djokovic’s stance on vaccines (and said so at the time) but the antipathy predated any of this. It was there when he was the on-court joker, doing impressions of his fellow players, a young man desperate to be liked. It was there when he was world No3, world No2, world No1, and again now he has lost the top spot. Today it has become almost a rite of passage in all his matches, like swallows at the start of spring.

There has been much debate about whether spectators in his fourth-round match were shouting “boo” or “Rune” (the name of his Danish opponent, Holger Rune) but this misses the point. In pretty much every match Djokovic plays he suffers not just from a crowd on the side of his opponent but a minority who seek to throw him off his stride and who seem to be shown way more latitude than if they did this to someone else. If spectators sought to discombobulate Federer, fellow audience members would turn on them. As Djokovic put it on Monday: “I’ve been on the tour for more than 20 years, so trust me, I know all the tricks. I know how it works.”

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

I know many readers think the nastiness towards Djokovic is eminently justified, that he is a terrible person, that he is the bane of men’s tennis. I’d merely point out that this singular champion rose from adversity (as a child, he lived through the bombing of Belgrade), trained diligently to rise to the top during the most formidable era in the history of men’s tennis, and has invariably treated practice partners, the press and support staff with respect and courtesy.
I have interviewed him many times, so perhaps have a perspective that reaches beyond the armchair critics who believe they can discern deep moral failings in someone they’ve never met. He is polite, curious, interested in the world, always punctual, never fails to answer questions and, on one occasion, when our chat overran by an hour in Monaco, jumped from the restaurant table and offered to organise a helicopter to take me to the airport and then put a piece of cake in a cardboard box so I could enjoy pudding on the way home. “I couldn’t let you miss this,” he said with a wink. I’m not saying he is perfect by any means but neither is Federer nor Nadal nor Serena Williams. Believe me.

Another moment that will always stay with me is the Wimbledon final against Federer in 2019: still the most pulsating day of sport (the 50-over cricket World Cup final between England and New Zealand was taking place at the same time). I’d say 99.9 per cent (or thereabouts) of the audience was against the Serb, perhaps even more so than during the 2013 final. Some say that Djokovic feeds off antipathy but this is nonsense. As with all human beings, he wants to be liked. Indeed it took him years to develop techniques to cope with social rejection — a point he’s made to me many times.
At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.



I make no apology for admiring Djokovic, for believing he is the most impressive sportsman of my lifetime, for glimpsing in his resilience something of the greatness of our species. I’ve come to recognise that he will probably never be forgiven for gatecrashing the duopoly of Federer and Nadal, never tolerated for playing with such ruthless efficiency, never accepted for continuing to win at the age of 37, after operations that might have felled others.

But I do hope a critical mass of people will at least agree that the catcalling and personal insults should stop. He may not be your cup of tea but the journey from cramp-ridden pretender to tennis colossus has many of the ingredients Hollywood would recognise. From audiences, at SW19 and beyond, he surely deserves better.
The USO lineswoman, the Olympic rings and the Wimbledon net post beg to disagree with you.
 
The career slam record has only become a yardstick in the eyes of tennis pundits relatively recently, largely due to it changing hands relatively frequently after Sampras’ mentor revived interest in it. Watch McEnroe’s documentary where he states after beating Borg in the 1980 USO final: ’Thank God I don’t have to go to Australia‘ - to stop Borg achieving the CYGS - because even by the 80s none of the top pros gave a rats about Emerson’s tainted record, and the AO was about as big in the tennis world as our golf AO is today. The CYGS was and is the ultimate measure of tennis immortality, precisely because of the unparalleled accumulation of pressure in a single year, not mere accumulation of trophies over decades.
That world is long gone. For better or worse winning the most slams is now the main objective
 

– boos will hurt sensitive superstar​


Serb is not the bane of men’s tennis, he is a generous and gracious man who has risen from adversity. Audiences at SW19 and beyond need to start appreciating a true colossus​

Matthew Syed

Wednesday July 10 2024, 11.30pm BST, The Times

I’m often asked about the most memorable moment I’ve witnessed at Wimbledon. Roger Federer’s backhand at match point down against Rafael Nadal in the fourth-set tie-break in 2008, Goran Ivanisevic on his knees praying for the final point that would hand him victory, Steffi Graf coming back against Jana Novotna? All wonderful.
But perhaps I may also mention what happened after Andy Murray’s famous triumph in 2013 and, in particular, the post-match interview with Novak Djokovic, his opponent. Understandably the crowd had been against the Serb. When he won a point, there was something close to silence; when his opponent hit a winner, there was a roar of ecstasy. That can’t have been easy for a 26-year-old playing away from home.

And yet there wasn’t a hint of negativity or bitterness in Djokovic’s courtside interview, only a willingness to see the bigger picture of a nation celebrating its first male win for decades. “Congratulations to Andy,” he said. “You absolutely deserve this win. You played incredible tennis. Congratulations to his team. I know how much it means to them, and how much it means to you guys, and the whole country. It was a pleasure to be a part of this final.”

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

Djokovic, more than any other player, has to cope with spectators constantly seeking to discombobulate him

We often talk about the way sport teaches children how to win but there’s a more important lesson: it teaches us how to lose. Djokovic’s graciousness has been conspicuous pretty much since he arrived on the ATP Tour (if you doubt this, look at his magnanimity after defeat by Carlos Alcaraz last year or, indeed, any other loss over the past decade and a half). In this he is not alone, by the way: his two great rivals, Federer and Nadal, share this humane characteristic.
But something has always confused me about Djokovic. It is not just when he plays Murray at Wimbledon that the crowd is against him; it’s not just in SW19; indeed it’s not just in grand-slam events. Wherever he goes, whatever he does, he meets a striking and at times vindictive one-sidedness. I have seen this up close many times: the catcalling, the booing, the personal insults, the deliberate shouting out during the ball toss, you name it.

I should perhaps say that I strongly disagreed with Djokovic’s stance on vaccines (and said so at the time) but the antipathy predated any of this. It was there when he was the on-court joker, doing impressions of his fellow players, a young man desperate to be liked. It was there when he was world No3, world No2, world No1, and again now he has lost the top spot. Today it has become almost a rite of passage in all his matches, like swallows at the start of spring.

There has been much debate about whether spectators in his fourth-round match were shouting “boo” or “Rune” (the name of his Danish opponent, Holger Rune) but this misses the point. In pretty much every match Djokovic plays he suffers not just from a crowd on the side of his opponent but a minority who seek to throw him off his stride and who seem to be shown way more latitude than if they did this to someone else. If spectators sought to discombobulate Federer, fellow audience members would turn on them. As Djokovic put it on Monday: “I’ve been on the tour for more than 20 years, so trust me, I know all the tricks. I know how it works.”

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

Djokovic takes a break from a ruthlessly efficient practice session and shares a moment with his daughter, Tara

I know many readers think the nastiness towards Djokovic is eminently justified, that he is a terrible person, that he is the bane of men’s tennis. I’d merely point out that this singular champion rose from adversity (as a child, he lived through the bombing of Belgrade), trained diligently to rise to the top during the most formidable era in the history of men’s tennis, and has invariably treated practice partners, the press and support staff with respect and courtesy.
I have interviewed him many times, so perhaps have a perspective that reaches beyond the armchair critics who believe they can discern deep moral failings in someone they’ve never met. He is polite, curious, interested in the world, always punctual, never fails to answer questions and, on one occasion, when our chat overran by an hour in Monaco, jumped from the restaurant table and offered to organise a helicopter to take me to the airport and then put a piece of cake in a cardboard box so I could enjoy pudding on the way home. “I couldn’t let you miss this,” he said with a wink. I’m not saying he is perfect by any means but neither is Federer nor Nadal nor Serena Williams. Believe me.

Another moment that will always stay with me is the Wimbledon final against Federer in 2019: still the most pulsating day of sport (the 50-over cricket World Cup final between England and New Zealand was taking place at the same time). I’d say 99.9 per cent (or thereabouts) of the audience was against the Serb, perhaps even more so than during the 2013 final. Some say that Djokovic feeds off antipathy but this is nonsense. As with all human beings, he wants to be liked. Indeed it took him years to develop techniques to cope with social rejection — a point he’s made to me many times.
At 8-7 to Federer in the fifth set, the Swiss served two aces to bring up championship points at 40-15. The crowd rose to its feet, iPhones at the ready; even the press were writing the final lines. I doubt a single person believed Djokovic could come back — except Djokovic himself. If you ever get a moment, go to YouTube and watch back the sequence and you’ll see Djokovic preternaturally calm, like Gandalf on the Bridge of Khazad-dum: eyes focused, lips whispering to himself, that granite mind still daring to hope. The forehand winner he hit at 40-30 was so beautiful it should be framed and hung at the National Gallery.



I make no apology for admiring Djokovic, for believing he is the most impressive sportsman of my lifetime, for glimpsing in his resilience something of the greatness of our species. I’ve come to recognise that he will probably never be forgiven for gatecrashing the duopoly of Federer and Nadal, never tolerated for playing with such ruthless efficiency, never accepted for continuing to win at the age of 37, after operations that might have felled others.

But I do hope a critical mass of people will at least agree that the catcalling and personal insults should stop. He may not be your cup of tea but the journey from cramp-ridden pretender to tennis colossus has many of the ingredients Hollywood would recognise. From audiences, at SW19 and beyond, he surely deserves better.

Fair article.

Nice to hear such nice things about him. Truly.

I mostly like him in interviews - especially as he’s gotten older. He defended himself extremely well w journalists post Covid.

What’s a turn off personality wise for me is mainly on court stuff - screaming, rage-ovic, smashing stuff, vulgarities, boob throws, scuffling with the crowd… it’s just not manly to me. I think he could have put a lot of that stuff to bed long ago if he just didn’t respond in kind or found less off-putting ways to control himself when he’s not getting what he wants.

And not that it matters at all, but I think he would have made a fan out of me long ago if he did. Butt-hurt not withstanding.

People learn to respect maturity in champions and that looks like not giving that stuff the time of day (or laughing it off quickly) and not throwing tantrums when things don’t go your way (even brief ones). We learn that when we’re young - or we’re supposed to.

But his record as a champion speaks for itself and his will and determination are amazing. He deserved to be an all world legend of sports.

I don’t know. He’s just not a guy I look up to much. And I would like to. And when he shows good stuff, I’m glad. But in the main - I haven’t been able to get on board.

Maybe it’s cause he shows he cares so much about things - things that are all about him - that I don’t feel like he should care so much about.

I dont know.

But whatever people think…

HIT THE DECK!!!

#25 INCOMING!!!!
 
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