Unlock the secret mystery behind the KPS88 (large detailed photos)
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hyogen
Hall of Fame
wooooooooot johncauthen is back 
john..remember you were gonna send me a customized racquet for me to try out? I believe it was a customized wilson racquet - the one you believe Serena uses. hypercarbon 6.5? or something
hyogen@hotmail.com
john..remember you were gonna send me a customized racquet for me to try out? I believe it was a customized wilson racquet - the one you believe Serena uses. hypercarbon 6.5? or something
hyogen@hotmail.com
That is true. I don't know if there is a threshold requirement for the warning. Most electronic devices are soldered and solder contains lead, but does your cell phone come with this warning?
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
Probably the warning only applies for lead that can come into contact with the skin. If it is under the surface it would not apply IMO.
gymrat76
Banned
Nah, PT630..I don't think metal detector will cut it. We need an x-ray to get to the bottom of this. If we would like to be most certain, I can suggest a full CAT scan or an MR to be run while KPS88 is on an empty stomach -so bulge will show clearer.
Though, to get to absolute bottom of this and find out what this bulge really is: I most strongly advise that we take a look at the KPS88 with the Hubble telescope. This should help us bring out all the dirty laundry of the establishment!!!
wallymann
Rookie
how do you define/measure
john
how do you define/measure this "perfect" objective? i'm very interested in that, to make it understandable and repeatable.
TIA
walter
john
how do you define/measure this "perfect" objective? i'm very interested in that, to make it understandable and repeatable.
TIA
walter
Nah, PT630..I don't think metal detector will cut it. We need an x-ray to get to the bottom of this. If we would like to be most certain, I can suggest a full CAT scan or an MR to be run while KPS88 is on an empty stomach -so bulge will show clearer.
Though, to get to absolute bottom of this and find out what this bulge really is: I most strongly advise that we take a look at the KPS88 with the Hubble telescope. This should help us bring out all the dirty laundry of the establishment!!!
What if the bulge has nanocoded metal particles?
matchmaker
Hall of Fame
It most certainly has n-coded metal parti[K]les, no doubt about that. Wilson always provides ....
ps2dcgba
Rookie
Just wanted to thank the TS and johncauthen for sharing !
It works on my Asian K6.1 Tour, I <3 the plough effect, however I noticed my elblow started to twinge, after 30 mins of doubles play, after the break from the 1st set , hehhe we won 7-2, I gradually felt more , and more comfortable with the racket, and lol we won the 2nd set 7-3, I have the racket strung with Luxilon Big Banger XP 16L at 55 lbs, would you recommend another type of string altogether or suggest stringing lower?
Thanks again!
It works on my Asian K6.1 Tour, I <3 the plough effect, however I noticed my elblow started to twinge, after 30 mins of doubles play, after the break from the 1st set , hehhe we won 7-2, I gradually felt more , and more comfortable with the racket, and lol we won the 2nd set 7-3, I have the racket strung with Luxilon Big Banger XP 16L at 55 lbs, would you recommend another type of string altogether or suggest stringing lower?
Thanks again!
Due to the fascinating/controversial/challenging/amusing/confusing/ (delete as required :wink: ) nature of what is being discussed here (and that I've read a bit of in previous threads), I have a few random Qs for John Cauthen - or anyone else who knows about this (and please pardon me if some of this has already been covered but not all of us can grasp this stuff so easily)...
. I've read your praise re the Wilson Hammer 6.3 and the Speedport Pro White... but are you actually saying that if these frames were played with STOCK, the player might/should well be able to detect the brilliance of these rackets before any weight modifications were added?... Or are you only saying these frames become fantastic after your weight and stringing recommendations (although I've yet to here your specific views on stringing)?
. If one wanted to experiment a bit, in the broad cross-section of today's popular frames (as in your flag-ship, top of the range Babs, Wilsons, Heads, et al), is it advisable to just put a few grams of lead tape around the top of the handle, and maybe a smaller amount at 9 and 3 or 10 and 2, and see what changes occur?... Or is this experimentation only for a small, rarified number of rackets (like the SP Pro White, Wilson 6.3, etc?
. If applicable, could you by any chance name a specific amount of weight you think it would be good to apply to the top of the handle of a Bab (like say a PD) so someone like me could see the frame start to be altered to something akin to your custom job?
. I've read a lot about how your methods create a new way of waiting on the ball and hitting through the ball, and about how the likes of Fernando Gonzales, Fed, the Williams sisters and Agassi have all benefited as re their touch, feel, timing, groundies, etc. But I haven't heard anything about how it particularly effects the serve... Therefore, could you please say something about how your weighting system and theories relates to and benefits the serve?... And furthermore, wouldn't a fair amount of weight at the top of handle area make serving harder to accomplish smoothly?
. Lastly (and I guess this links to my 1st query), are there any other frames that STOCK you consider to have something similar in how they perform to what you are advocating?
Again, apologies if some of this is very obvious to you, but unfortunately, to the likes of myself who likes to experiment with frames a bit but is none too expert, we could do with a bit of help comprehending it all.
Many thanks
R.
. I've read your praise re the Wilson Hammer 6.3 and the Speedport Pro White... but are you actually saying that if these frames were played with STOCK, the player might/should well be able to detect the brilliance of these rackets before any weight modifications were added?... Or are you only saying these frames become fantastic after your weight and stringing recommendations (although I've yet to here your specific views on stringing)?
. If one wanted to experiment a bit, in the broad cross-section of today's popular frames (as in your flag-ship, top of the range Babs, Wilsons, Heads, et al), is it advisable to just put a few grams of lead tape around the top of the handle, and maybe a smaller amount at 9 and 3 or 10 and 2, and see what changes occur?... Or is this experimentation only for a small, rarified number of rackets (like the SP Pro White, Wilson 6.3, etc?
. If applicable, could you by any chance name a specific amount of weight you think it would be good to apply to the top of the handle of a Bab (like say a PD) so someone like me could see the frame start to be altered to something akin to your custom job?
. I've read a lot about how your methods create a new way of waiting on the ball and hitting through the ball, and about how the likes of Fernando Gonzales, Fed, the Williams sisters and Agassi have all benefited as re their touch, feel, timing, groundies, etc. But I haven't heard anything about how it particularly effects the serve... Therefore, could you please say something about how your weighting system and theories relates to and benefits the serve?... And furthermore, wouldn't a fair amount of weight at the top of handle area make serving harder to accomplish smoothly?
. Lastly (and I guess this links to my 1st query), are there any other frames that STOCK you consider to have something similar in how they perform to what you are advocating?
Again, apologies if some of this is very obvious to you, but unfortunately, to the likes of myself who likes to experiment with frames a bit but is none too expert, we could do with a bit of help comprehending it all.
Many thanks
R.
hyogen
Hall of Fame
woooot. john cauthen is gonna be sending me one of his modified to perfection racquets. he wanted me to post his email to me, so here it is. I'll x out the email addresses..
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE:
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:57:36 -0500
I watched your video, http://www.youtube.com/hyogen82. You apply a lot of power at contact, which is the secret. Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer did that in golf, and dominated. The rest of the players swung more smoothly, applying less power at contact. When the industry reinvented golf balls with slower reacting rubber; after that, if players applied power at contact, the rubber waited to react and the ball felt like a rock. It wouldn't respond to your input. No one dominated. Players who applied power at contact were just fighting against a deader ball.
But the joy of tennis and golf is feeling the ball react and actually directing it as you hit. My entire point modifying racquets is to make a racquet react so that your input directs the ball.
I thought I had it when you first wrote me, but didn't quite. I felt really bad about not sending you anything and I didn't post on TW.
Then, Prince came out with a new racquet. It is used by Jankovic, and now quickly becoming hot on the women's tour. It seemed like the problem was the rest of the racquet and not my weight; because I did everything I could to my weight. The response came close, but I never got what I wanted with other racquets.
Then, I found this new racquet.
I've only strung one and haven't fully tested it in tough hitting; but I just bought two more of them, so I will send you one soon. I am glad you are still here, and asking. Do you like a 4 3/8 grip or a 4 1/2?
Next I will get an account with Prince, and modify as many of these racquets as I can, for as many people as I can. Or, if Prince is listening and cares, I want to work for them and provide this racquet to tens of thousands of players.
Watching you hit on the video, I know you will utterly love this racquet. With this racquet and my modification, I'm sure I've found the secret to racquet response.
Post this email on TW. What size grip do you like?
From: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE:
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:57:36 -0500
I watched your video, http://www.youtube.com/hyogen82. You apply a lot of power at contact, which is the secret. Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer did that in golf, and dominated. The rest of the players swung more smoothly, applying less power at contact. When the industry reinvented golf balls with slower reacting rubber; after that, if players applied power at contact, the rubber waited to react and the ball felt like a rock. It wouldn't respond to your input. No one dominated. Players who applied power at contact were just fighting against a deader ball.
But the joy of tennis and golf is feeling the ball react and actually directing it as you hit. My entire point modifying racquets is to make a racquet react so that your input directs the ball.
I thought I had it when you first wrote me, but didn't quite. I felt really bad about not sending you anything and I didn't post on TW.
Then, Prince came out with a new racquet. It is used by Jankovic, and now quickly becoming hot on the women's tour. It seemed like the problem was the rest of the racquet and not my weight; because I did everything I could to my weight. The response came close, but I never got what I wanted with other racquets.
Then, I found this new racquet.
I've only strung one and haven't fully tested it in tough hitting; but I just bought two more of them, so I will send you one soon. I am glad you are still here, and asking. Do you like a 4 3/8 grip or a 4 1/2?
Next I will get an account with Prince, and modify as many of these racquets as I can, for as many people as I can. Or, if Prince is listening and cares, I want to work for them and provide this racquet to tens of thousands of players.
Watching you hit on the video, I know you will utterly love this racquet. With this racquet and my modification, I'm sure I've found the secret to racquet response.
Post this email on TW. What size grip do you like?
Tombhoneb
Rookie
From john cauthen's email, my understanding of this is that weight can be added to the throat of any racket to get a better response. However, to get the 'perfect' specs of a racket you can only add weight to a limited amount of rackets that are being made; one being Jankovic's racket.
Am i correct?
Sorry if its a bit obvious but im really trying to understand.
Am i correct?
Sorry if its a bit obvious but im really trying to understand.
hyogen
Hall of Fame
i think you're correct on this..
he's saying that some frames are more easily made "perfect" because they have a low weight to begin with. There were some sponsored players saying how they got racquets (like the PT630 or p57e or whatever...) that were much lighter than spec directly from Head, and it was much easier for them to customize them by adding lead.
gymrat76
Banned
LOL
Hyogen, when watching your video, felt like I was watching Titanic, with the background music and all! The slow-mo stuff LOL...Only thing missing was the wind effect!
I think you have a beautiful technique. But, with all due respect, if you lose like 20#s -which is TOTALLY doable- Imo you WILL feel like you just went up two ntrp ratings! Invest in gym hours, my friend, you will not regret...
Edit: What racquet is that? Thought you played w/ Rqis II..
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Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
More Evidence?
Note the throat design of the new Yonex RDiS line.
Note the throat design of the new Yonex RDiS line.
Well, with no replies to my questions having materialized, I went and tried an experiment the other day with lead tape over the top of the handle of my PD+ and nowhere else.
The result was I didn't seem to be hitting quite so deep. I got even more spin. The feel was pretty nice, firm. But, as I feared it might be, the maneuverability was compromised - the weight placed there above grip seemed to make what's a high-ish SW frame to begin with before any lead tape is added, less easy to swing smoothly, adroitly and with pleasing speed. :?
If anyone (and not least John Cauthen) has an idea how to improve the performance of a PD+ using these ideas without slowing the frame down, I'd love to hear them.
R.
I went and tried an experiment the other day with lead tape over the top of the handle of my PD+ and nowhere else. The result was I didn't seem to be hitting quite so deep. I got even more spin. The feel was pretty nice, firm. But, as I feared it might be, the maneuverability was compromised - the weight placed there above grip seemed to make what's a high-ish SW frame to begin with before any lead tape is added, less easy to swing smoothly, adroitly and with pleasing speed. :?
If anyone (and not least John Cauthen) has an idea how to improve the performance of a PD+ using these ideas without slowing the frame down, I'd love to hear them.
R.
dunno
Rookie
Well I added weight to right above the handle on my Prostaff 6.0 95 and the results were great, more spin was the biggest thing, and there was some more penetration too.
Ross K, maybe you just need to add the same amount of lead in the hoop so it doesn't change the balance so much?
Ross K, maybe you just need to add the same amount of lead in the hoop so it doesn't change the balance so much?
Yeah, maybe you're right about that. It's a shame JC (that's John Cauthen btw :wink: ) can't answer some of these queries he's helped set in motion.
I tried JC theory on many racquets and it works pretty well.. BUT it works nicely on head light racquet and you have to add some kind of lead at 3,9 to balance it out.. I tried it for my wife racquet I used a very light racquet (about 280g) then lead it up to 300g with some twix at the hoops and about 15g above the grip.. .. wooww.. she plays much much better.. heavier spin and power..
Pro_Tour_630
Legend
JC methods are very tricky, the shape has to be correct and the distance from Butt of racquet has to be correct. do a search there is plenty of info on his shape and location. You can not just put globes of lead anywhere above the grip. It will not work. Even JC can not seem to make every racquet work. Aeropure drive are impossible to make them work, like Jetlee said you have to have a frame that is light and HL
Ross K a PD plus is very hard to work with first it is a Plus , JC methods are very precise in terms of length as well, between 27 and 27.25 is tops I would get a PD and stretch it out to a little over 27 by stringing lose mains and tight crosses
Ross K a PD plus is very hard to work with first it is a Plus , JC methods are very precise in terms of length as well, between 27 and 27.25 is tops I would get a PD and stretch it out to a little over 27 by stringing lose mains and tight crosses
Pro_Tour_630
Legend
nice find I was going to post that, It seems right at the throat is where the magic happens even yonex has been experimentingNote the throat design of the new Yonex RDiS line.
Very interesting. I wasn't aware of most of what you say... I might just have to forget about such experimentation with the PD+.
BTW, on a different subject, what's the view off ppl regarding the BB11 mid?... sure seems to me it's a bit chunkier than your average frame in the upper grip area, no?
gymrat76
Banned
IF bigger, thicker, denser right at that bulge area makes a racquet much better and that it is very mystical, maybe I should post a pic of my Max 200G, or any old school racquet for that matter!
That location above the grip is doubled if not tripled, was heavier, denser in old school racquets as most of you already know. (And it took away from maneuverability, obviously)
Therefore I think we should stop making a big fuss about this. No offense pls anyone..Just my personal opinion.
That location above the grip is doubled if not tripled, was heavier, denser in old school racquets as most of you already know. (And it took away from maneuverability, obviously)
Therefore I think we should stop making a big fuss about this. No offense pls anyone..Just my personal opinion.
hyogen
Hall of Fame
LOL
Hyogen, when watching your video, felt like I was watching Titanic, with the background music and all! The slow-mo stuff LOL...Only thing missing was the wind effect!
I think you have a beautiful technique. But, with all due respect, if you lose like 20#s -which is TOTALLY doable- Imo you WILL feel like you just went up two ntrp ratings! Invest in gym hours, my friend, you will not regret...
Edit: What racquet is that? Thought you played w/ Rqis II..
haha, thanks man. I have promised my girlfriend that i'll lose 20lbs by March 15... She wants me to fit in my suit and look presentable for this formal dance thing......lol With all the crap she puts up with, I think this isn't too unreasonable a request. So I MUST DO IT. I think I can lose that much in this amount of time but it's gonna take REAL dedication.
One thing I don't like doing is running...and i guess the reason all along was because I have flat feet. So, my parents are giving me their exercise bike and I'm gonna ride it for at least an hour a day watching TV or a movie...I think I can easily do that....! Then i'll try to go to the gym as much as possible, but at least do pushups and situps at home. Then of course watch my diet.
I did buy an RQiS 2 and tried it for a while, but it ended up being just a little too stiff for my liking. I am using the old Twin Tube radical tour now. I could settle on this frame for a long long time I believe.
gymrat76
Banned
Well it seems a membership at an internet fitness forum is appearing in horizon for you!
Aside from the joke, it is totally doable, like you said, it is dedication. Helps with any kind of sports. For tennis, you got clean strokes, I can easily see you enjoying the game at a higher level just by getting rid of the fat. Btw- exercise is only 20% (if not less) 80% is watching your diet.ucrctennis
Rookie
I did a search and I couldn't find exactly where this information is. Would it be possible for you to post a link to the thread(s)?
Thanks!
obnoxious2
Semi-Pro
Not to discourage you or anything but running is by far the fastest way to lose body fat. I've heard from PTs thant you need twice the amount of time even with resistance on a bike to lose the same calories. Since you have flat feet making running a pain in the ass, I would suggest swimming. Doesn't burn calories as fast as running but it does more for you in an hr than biking. Not to mention its extremely easy on the joints and will work your whole body. You'll notice muscles you never had before.
hyogen
Hall of Fame
hmm, i will take your advice and see what i can do. I just did 30 min of exercise bike during lunch time today.. unfortunately, the nearest 24hr fitness that has a pool is farther away - probably worth it though.
how about this... 30 min of exercise bike during lunch time...maybe some weights...
then after work, try to take as many laps as i can (pacing myself).
then do some weights....then go home....get on my exercise bike while watching a movie/tvshow. I know i can do that for an hour without getting bored.
i just found out today i've scaled in at a record 210lbs... ridiculous. I was 155lbs just 4.5 years ago. I'm gonna set the goal higher for 25lbs lost by march 15.
obnoxious2
Semi-Pro
Sounds like a good plan. Weight lifting is definitely a plus as more muscle mass makes your body burn more calories.
Just make sure you keep to the plan like going to the gym consistently. Like MWF or something of that sort.
If you're like dead dead serious on losing weight and getting into shape fast. I would do something like all lifting one day, and cardio the next. This way your muscles have time to rest.
Just make sure you keep to the plan like going to the gym consistently. Like MWF or something of that sort.
If you're like dead dead serious on losing weight and getting into shape fast. I would do something like all lifting one day, and cardio the next. This way your muscles have time to rest.
The key to burning fat and losing weight is prolonged moderate activity. It's far better to get your heart rate up for a 1.5 hour stretch, 2x a week, then to get your heart rate up for 30 minutes, 6x a week.
The longer you sustain a good workout the more your body switches over to burning fat than carbs.
This is the problem a lot of people have when they try to lose weight. They workout for 30 minutes everyday. The problem is that in those first 30 minutes you pretty much exclusively burn carbs. So your blood sugar drops, which means you're starving, and you eat more. At the end of the day it's a wash.
On the other hand if instead you workout 2x a week for 1hour or more, you will be burning fat towards the end of the workout. The other days you just worry about controlling your blood sugar by eating right (proteins, monounsaturated fats, complex carbs).
Lifting weights is also a good idea because it helps boost your body's ability to burn calories, but couple it with those long sustained workouts.
The longer you sustain a good workout the more your body switches over to burning fat than carbs.
This is the problem a lot of people have when they try to lose weight. They workout for 30 minutes everyday. The problem is that in those first 30 minutes you pretty much exclusively burn carbs. So your blood sugar drops, which means you're starving, and you eat more. At the end of the day it's a wash.
On the other hand if instead you workout 2x a week for 1hour or more, you will be burning fat towards the end of the workout. The other days you just worry about controlling your blood sugar by eating right (proteins, monounsaturated fats, complex carbs).
Lifting weights is also a good idea because it helps boost your body's ability to burn calories, but couple it with those long sustained workouts.
flash9
Semi-Pro
Who can get the KPS88 X-Rayed?
Sounds like it needs to be X-rayed to clearly see how much metal has been added.
Sounds like it needs to be X-rayed to clearly see how much metal has been added.
dunno
Rookie
But I need to gain weight not lose it! argh I want my money back.
I have flat feet and never have noticed any problems running from it. I've never weighed more than 185lbs. though, so that may be why. I'm sure if I had a spare 20lbs. it would be much more difficult.
Diet is the most important thing as others have mentioned, so decide in advance what things you will and won't eat and do your best to stick to it.
Good Luck
Diet is the most important thing as others have mentioned, so decide in advance what things you will and won't eat and do your best to stick to it.
Good Luck
vkartikv
Hall of Fame
?? I took your advice and spent it all on the women!
Blank
Rookie
biggest loser
New User
http://www.waidiet.com/thewaidiet.html
If you can do this you will lose all you want and be healthy... IF you can stay on it!!!
Hehehe...
Good luck.
This topic is much easier though, because we know that there's weight under hyogen's bulge and we all agree it should be removed and not added to other frames.
hyogen
Hall of Fame
never in a million years did i think i'd end up like this...especially just a couple years after college!
anyway, I would like to try out the kps88, but a stick much more suited to my game would be the exo3 rebel 95.
yesterday I just did some pushups. I got a headache from doing the exercise bike and playing "hardcore" table tennis the day before.
I've been doing better about eating so far. just a little bit of cookies and the first night i sorta fell to temptation the first night...but this morning I look way less bloated than I normally do. If I can keep this up for a couple more days there's gonna be a noticealbe difference. No more bloated face, etc. Then I'll really have gotten the ball rolling and all the credit will be to you nice folk
anyway, I would like to try out the kps88, but a stick much more suited to my game would be the exo3 rebel 95.
yesterday I just did some pushups. I got a headache from doing the exercise bike and playing "hardcore" table tennis the day before.
I've been doing better about eating so far. just a little bit of cookies and the first night i sorta fell to temptation the first night...but this morning I look way less bloated than I normally do. If I can keep this up for a couple more days there's gonna be a noticealbe difference. No more bloated face, etc. Then I'll really have gotten the ball rolling and all the credit will be to you nice folk
