Unpopular opinion: Hubert Hurkacz has a better chance of winning against Djokovic than Berrettini

aman92

Legend
Hubert has a better game to trouble Novak for sure.. But don't see him getting past Berrettini to be honest
 

MS_07

Semi-Pro
The short for that desc is 'boring' as used for Djokovic. By children

Children prefer flashy - they grasp what meets the eye.

Children (<4 yo) usually like dumb things. they can watch nonsense + repetitive rhymes for hours with occasional high pitch.
That's exactly how joker plays. same boring game. with occasional grunts boob throwing tshirt tearings in between.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
I agree. Berrettini has so obvious weaknesses (bh + keeping the ball low).

Polished Murray is a Cilic with a less annoying ball bounce and better net game.
 

Krish0608

Legend
To beat Djokovic you need stand-out strengths and firepower. LikeWawrinka.
Hurkacz has none. Berrettini has a world class serve + forehand even though his backhand is circumspect. Berrettini had Novak on the edge at RG and I believe he could cause Novak even more problems on grass.
 

T007

Hall of Fame
It seems as though many from the start has said that Berrettini is one of the few who could challenge Novak Djokovic in the final.
But I don't think so at all.

Berrettini has played each of Big 3 in Grand Slams

In 2019, Berrettini came into 4R at Wimbledon, with 11-1 on Grass since Roland Garros, he then appeared a bit nervous and lost to Federer 1-6, 2-6, 2-6.

Then in 2019 UO, he fell apart after choking a set to Nadal

Then in 2021 RG, he played 2 awful sets until the presurre was off him after he was down 3-6, 2-6

Therefore he seems way too nervous to not become another of so called "mental midget"

Hurkacz on the other hand, had not much fear playing Federer, and is not known for choking, plus he has a good weapon, his serve together with the fact that in 2019 he gave Djokovic his second hardest match at WB 2019, and Hurkacz has only improved since then

Therefore, if you want a competetive final, cheer for Hubert Hurkacz
Hurckaz has a cool head which allows him to not panic when he is down. Against Fed down 0-3 40 all a break could have broken him for good. But he held his serve and broke Federer few games later. While serving to stay in the set he sent down 5 aces in two games.

So if he can keep that level in next 2 matches he can win against any player. In tennis its all about playing the big points in a better way. So far djokovic has been best it and if Hubert can do better than him he may win who knows.
 

T007

Hall of Fame
It was bound to happen -sooner or later - a player which can do Djokovic on Djokovic.
While Djokovic adapts on court to any player fast - the fact is Djokovic has pretty much zero experience in playing against a player who has resilient mind like his.

OTOH, Hurkacz is yet to test his Djokovic mode against real Djokovic in BO5. While pressure of Slam title being clearly greater than a Slam QF. And he never played Slam finals with all the non tennis pressure about it.

IMO this is the argument in favor of your claim - better than any stat comparison with Berrettini.
I think you should watch their 2019 3rd round match. Now he is a much better player then he was 2 years ago
 

T007

Hall of Fame
To beat Djokovic you need stand-out strengths and firepower. LikeWawrinka.
Hurkacz has none. Berrettini has a world class serve + forehand even though his backhand is circumspect. Berrettini had Novak on the edge at RG and I believe he could cause Novak even more problems on grass.
Berrettini has a world class serve ??? His 2nd serve is just avg and Djoker is a better returner than him.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Hurkacz is probably the most disrespected and overlooked next-gen by most of these ******** forums. I bet 90% of people predicted likes of Munar to be more successful than him.

I agree with you OP. Lets be honest. Berrettini is just serve+forehand bot. Other than that Hurkacz is better in every single aspect of the game. Better return, better backhand (lol comparing Hubie good backhand to Matteo non-existent), better movement, better touch and net game. Hubert can be a servebot too so it will not be an easy task for Matteo to beat him like most predict.

Hurkacz defensive and consistent baseline game together with huge serve can really bother Djokovic. Low chances of winning but he can put a decent fight which will probably not happen if Matteo wins.

But as i said no matter what Hurkacz will do, people will keep calling him talentless journeyman even despite the fact he beats quality opponents in his deep runs and never bends under top opposition.

I'd rather have a nice guy who can put decent fight than brats who serve 50km/h in the grand slam finals and other unpleasant types who cannot take their chances. You know whom i mean.

It's cause he isn't flashy like these other guys doing tweeners and acting tough, or rapping on court, Or having the looks of Berrettini. You are less talented when you look more boring than others and don't stand out from the others.
 
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junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
It's cause he isn't flashy like these other guys doing tweeners and acting tough, or rapping on court, Or having the looks of Berrettini. You are less talented when you look more boring than others.

Agreed :) New Cilic has a good game. He has improved a lot these past few years. And he seems like a very humble, nice person. I hope he continues to improve. His run in Miami was amazing to watch, that was high level!
 
You weren't watching him in 1999 or 2013 then. This was far from the worst Fed has played.
2013 roger was never bagelled Beatles.
I know I'm not a primarily roger fan, but this was his worst carreer match so far, followed by that infamous Cincinnati final with nole in 2018.
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
To beat Djokovic you need stand-out strengths and firepower. LikeWawrinka.
Hurkacz has none. Berrettini has a world class serve + forehand even though his backhand is circumspect. Berrettini had Novak on the edge at RG and I believe he could cause Novak even more problems on grass.

Exactly, Berrittini has a classic punchers chance. If he gets hot, especially on his first serve, he has at least a chance. With Hurkacz, he would NEED Djokovic to play poorly which is unlikely in a final.
 
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