unspoken great nº 1_Vijay Amritraj

kiki

Banned
Golden Era had many outstanding players, most of them not spoken about here and many underrated.But they were a very good addition to the stablished champions and it wouldn´t have been GE without them.

They had a game or personality that would be much more outstanding in dull eras but could not flourish in as much because of obvious circumstances.I just thought about throwing names that I inmediately associate with Golden Era; many of them were truly great players with a clear unique identity.

I hope seasoned experts who, like me enjoyed the 70´s and early 80´s will feel identified with them , will comment their vision of those players or will throw some other names we can also give opinions about.

Vijay comes inmediately to mind because of his rare and fantastic mixture of power and touch, he had magic in his game and while he never played a major final ( except the 74 and 87 DC titles he lost), he was unique in himself and absolutely all 1970´s greats were scalped by him, from Laver and Rosewall through Borg and Connors and until Mc Enroe, whom he was one of the 3 guys he defeated in Mac´s best ever year ( 1984).

On grass, he was not only at his best, dangerous and flourishing but very appealing and he also had great indoor and hard court success.He was definitely a WCT stelwart and, by 1974 some journalists targeted him as one of the next three big names along Connors and Borg...he was, of course, the only one of that lot that missed it.

He and Krishnan were a joy to watch and it would have been wonderful if they had won the 1987 DC final against the strongest ever swedish team...
 
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kiki

Banned
Amritraj moved into movie producing and had great success in the business along his three brothers.He also promoted and acted in one of James Bond movies (Octo.*****).
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
Golden Era had many outstanding players, most of them not spoken about here and many underrated.But they were a very good addition to the stablished champions and it wouldn´t have been GE without them.

They had a game or personality that would be much more outstanding in dull eras but could not flourish in as much because of obvious circumstances.I just thought about throwing names that I inmediately associate with Golden Era; many of them were truly great players with a clear unique identity.

I hope seasoned experts who, like me enjoyed the 70´s and early 80´s will feel identified with them , will comment their vision of those players or will throw some other names we can also give opinions about.

Vijay comes inmediately to mind because of his rare and fantastic mixture of power and touch, he had magic in his game and while he never played a major final ( except the 74 and 87 DC titles he lost), he was unique in himself and absolutely all 1970´s greats were scalped by him, from Laver and Rosewall through Borg and Connors and until Mc Enroe, whom he was one of the 3 guys he defeated in Mac´s best ever year ( 1984).

On grass, he was not only at his best, dangerous and flourishing but very appealing and he also had great indoor and hard court success.He was definitely a WCT stelwart and, by 1974 some journalists targeted him as one of the next three big names along Connors and Borg...he was, of course, the only one of that lot that missed it.

He and Krishnan were a joy to watch and it would have been wonderful if they had won the 1987 DC final against the strongest ever swedish team...

kiki, I admire and salute you for your great endeavour to present some great or excellent but somewhat forgotten players like Vijay.

I'm glad to have seen him at a senior's event in 1992 near Hamburg where a certain K.R. said to me about Amritraj: "Great touch player!"...
 

kiki

Banned
kiki, I admire and salute you for your great endeavour to present some great or excellent but somewhat forgotten players like Vijay.

I'm glad to have seen him at a senior's event in 1992 near Hamburg where a certain K.R. said to me about Amritraj: "Great touch player!"...
Thanks for your Kind words Bobby
Indeed he was a great touch player with a natural talent
 

Xavier G

Hall of Fame
kiki, I remember Mr Vijay Amritraj. He was a very talented player in his day. Beat Borg at the US Open 1974, led Connors 2 sets to 0 in their Wimbledon QF 1981 and beat McEnroe in 1984...
 

kiki

Banned
Amritraj/Stockton were beaten by Fibak and Meiler at the 77 WCT WORLD DOUBLES FINALES
That was the only just doubles event in the world and the biggest
Fi,Masters mixed singles &doubles but Hunt showed his great visión here
held at Kansas City from 1973 to 1978 and moved to London Albert Hall in 1979
It stayed at this wonderful arena for a decade
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Amritraj moved into movie producing and had great success in the business along his three brothers.He also promoted and acted in one of James Bond movies (Octo.*****).

I thought Ashok was the one in movie producing. Did Vijay also invest in them?
 
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BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
Amritraj/Stockton were beaten by Fibak and Meiler at the 77 WCT WORLD DOUBLES FINALES
That was the only just doubles event in the world and the biggest
Fi,Masters mixed singles &doubles but Hunt showed his great visión here
held at Kansas City from 1973 to 1978 and moved to London Albert Hall in 1979
It stayed at this wonderful arena for a decade

kiki, Little correction: Fibak/Meiler won in 1976.

In 1977 Amritraj/Stockton won the final against Gerulaitis/Panatta.
 

kiki

Banned
kiki, Little correction: Fibak/Meiler won in 1976.

In 1977 Amritraj/Stockton won the final against Gerulaitis/Panatta.

My bad, whom did Fibak and Meiler beat in 76? Mc Nair and Stewart? I think I have a confusion of dates.
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
My bad, whom did Fibak and Meiler beat in 76? Mc Nair and Stewart? I think I have a confusion of dates.

kiki, In 1976 WCT finals Fibak/Meiler beat Case/Masters in first round, then Gottfried/Ramirez (!!) in five sets and Smith/Lutz in final, also in five.. Whe Lutz failed at matchpoint, Smith sent him a grim glance...
 
I used to string for Vijay and his son Prakash from about 1997-1999. Vijay was a complete gentleman and I always enjoyed our conversations. He used a Prince Thunder 850 Longbody and Prince Pro Blend at 25 lbs. I asked him how he could control that and he said once you figure it out you can never go back to conventional tensions. Prakash was a great kid as well. If I recall correctly he used a Prince Michael Chang Longbody midsize but I can't remember the strings and tension.
 

kiki

Banned
kiki, In 1976 WCT finals Fibak/Meiler beat Case/Masters in first round, then Gottfried/Ramirez (!!) in five sets and Smith/Lutz in final, also in five.. Whe Lutz failed at matchpoint, Smith sent him a grim glance...

Amazing
3 of the 4 or 5 best teams
Fibak was always great at doubles but didn' t know much about Meiler
He is a bit enigmátic to me...what is your opinión?
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
Amazing
3 of the 4 or 5 best teams
Fibak was always great at doubles but didn' t know much about Meiler
He is a bit enigmátic to me...what is your opinión?

kiki, I don't know too much about Karl Meiler. He was very talented and had nice wins against Rosewall, Okker, Taylor (Davis Cup), Vilas and other great players.

He reached SF of 1973 AO, final of 1973 German Championships (lost to Dibbs) and final of 1975 Gstaad (Swiss Championships) beating Vilas in 4 sets and losing to Rosewall in 3 sets. He won the 1972 South America Champ.s (beat Vilas in five).

Karl was born in 1949 and died recently after a bad fall which caused a coma.
 

kiki

Banned
kiki, I don't know too much about Karl Meiler. He was very talented and had nice wins against Rosewall, Okker, Taylor (Davis Cup), Vilas and other great players.

He reached SF of 1973 AO, final of 1973 German Championships (lost to Dibbs) and final of 1975 Gstaad (Swiss Championships) beating Vilas in 4 sets and losing to Rosewall in 3 sets. He won the 1972 South America Champ.s (beat Vilas in five).

Karl was born in 1949 and died recently after a bad fall which caused a coma.
Thanks Bobby
Sad neas
But I think Dibbs beat Plotz at Hamburg in 73 and not Karl
Amazing Rosewall win at 41
 

BobbyOne

G.O.A.T.
Thanks Bobby
Sad neas
But I think Dibbs beat Plotz at Hamburg in 73 and not Karl
Amazing Rosewall win at 41

kiki, Plötz was the finalist in 1974 (after a win against Vilas!). Meiler was a better player, surely the best German between Bungert/Kuhnke and Becker.

Rosewall was not quite 41 at Gstaad 1975 but yes, an amazing win for him. He shortly before won also the prestigious River Oaks (WCT) Houston clay tournament
 

kiki

Banned
Interesting
Germany had very good pláyers and even reached the 1970 DC F but not a real champion till Boris
To the one you named I would add Pinner,Ghering (who beat Borg) and Ingo Buding
Pohmann and Fassbender were a good doubles
 

kiki

Banned
Vijay was tailored made for Wimbledon, where he played twice the QF and two of the best matches I recall there.His 1979 fr against Borg and his 1981 QF against Connors, both of whom he lost.

In 1973 he lost to Kodes at the last eight round and I think had he won that match, he´d be favoured to take the crown.
 
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