Upcoming Goals for Djokovic ....

[Razer]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has complicated the situation

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan @Kralingen

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

 

[TheNachoMan]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has made some of these goals kinda impossible ?

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

One more USO and an Olympic gold. That’s the only targets he should be looking at really,

The weeks at #1 would already be done without the covid ranking fiasco, sadly it’s out of reach now.

 

[Razer]

One more USO and an Olympic gold. That’s the only targets he should be looking at really,

The weeks at #1 would already be done without the covid ranking fiasco, sadly it’s out of reach now.

If he wins USO then he will cross 400 too.

The next USO + AO + Wimbly are very crucial, I hope he wins at least 2 out of these 3 or maybe all 3.

 

[roysid]

Winning 8th W title to equal Federer.

Winning 4th UO title to equal Nadal, and not having his fans say that he has more UO titles than Djokovic.

He has to do it within a short period of time, '23-24.

The goal would always be to be the record holder. Winning 8th Wimbledon would be special as it ties at the top.

Winning 4th USO to tie Nadal isn't a goal. Definitely a grand Slam win is a big thing and later if he wins 5, that will tie him to top with fed, pete, connors

 

[Torben]

He’s going to be hard pressed to win another US Open or Australian Open if everyone plays.

There are now two people who have beaten him in 5 set slam finals. He cracked emotionally at the 2021 US Open and lost it a few days ago at Wimbledon with his racquet smashing escapade.

The certainty has disappeared and he will find it increasingly difficult to win slams.

 

[DIMI_D]

One more USO and an Olympic gold. That’s the only targets he should be looking at really,

The weeks at #1 would already be done without the covid ranking fiasco, sadly it’s out of reach now.

Do u see Novak winning slams post AO25

 

[DIMI_D]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has complicated the situation

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan @Kralingen

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

All of that is achievable still and on the cards he def has a couple of slams left in him. It will be interesting to see how far sinner and rune develop if rune and or sinner can catch up to Alcaraz level then all goals will be very much complicated but right now Djo and Carlitos have a big gap on the rest of the field

 

[Razer]

All of that is achievable still and on the cards he def has a couple of slams left in him. It will be interesting to see how far sinner and rune develop if rune and or sinner can catch up to Alcaraz level then all goals will be very much complicated but right now Djo and Carlitos have a big gap on the rest of the field

I dont think Novak can win any slams after AO25, he will be almost 38 then, by then all 3 Alcaraz, Rune and Sinner will be unstoppable. In every slam he will have to go throught at least 1 of them for sure, maybe even 2, that will not be possible.

 

[robthai]

@Razer There's a high chance that he's basically going to be playing Old Federer's role from here on out. Reaching finals and playing amazing against a weak field only to come up short against a younger all time great in the semis or final.

 

[DSH]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has complicated the situation

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan @Kralingen

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

1. 50/50 for now but if he loses at the next Australian Open his chances are definitely over.
2. No
3. He is the great favorite there but it will be his last Major at 70% of his chances.
4. No.
5. No
6. No.
7. Sinner will destroy him in Turin indoors.
8. Djokovic will at most reach the semifinals at the US Open but if he gets out of hand, there's a good chance he'll get disqualified again.

 

[Razer]

@Razer There's a high chance that he's basically going to be playing Old Federer's role from here on out. Reaching finals and playing amazing against a weak field only to come up short against a younger all time great in the semis or final.

It is possible only if Sinner and Rune mature quickly in next few months and become like Alcaraz. I doubt that. Alcaraz himself knows he will have to play lights out to beat Novak even next time, it is not a certainty that he will play like he did at Wimbledon. Lets see if Alcaraz reaches finals of all the slams in the next 15 months or not.

 

[robthai]

It is possible only if Sinner and Rune mature quickly in next few months and become like Alcaraz. I doubt that. Alcaraz himself knows he will have to play lights out to beat Novak even next time, it is not a certainty that he will play like he did at Wimbledon. Lets see if Alcaraz reaches finals of all the slams in the next 15 months or not.

But what's scary is Alcaraz isn't even close to his peak yet. I think he will reach another level by next year if he avoids injury. At 36 it will be hard to keep up with the rate Alcaraz is improving. The challange will likely come from his peers like Sinner who seems to be a bad match up for Alcaraz.

 

[Razer]

But what's scary is Alcaraz isn't even close to his peak yet. I think he will reach another level by next year if he avoids injury. At 36 it will be hard to keep up with the rate Alcaraz is improving. The challange will likely come from his peers like Sinner who seems to be a bad match up for Alcaraz.

Can he reach such a level ? We'll see

Rune and Sinner are at least 3 inches taller than him, so by the time they are 24-25 they should have some edge over him, if not then it is on them. Carlos is superfast and athletic but he is short, I am guessing that will play a number on him when he crosses 25.

 

[ghostofMecir]

He has more than enough love from his family, team and many fans.

Must’ve been pretty bitter to hear the crowd cheer on Carlitos, when usually a crowd will favor and aging older legend. Every time they record for one of Carlitos‘s winners, you could see the annoyed look on Djovak’s face

 

[DIMI_D]

I dont think Novak can win any slams after AO25, he will be almost 38 then, by then all 3 Alcaraz, Rune and Sinner will be unstoppable. In every slam he will have to go throught at least 1 of them for sure, maybe even 2, that will not be possible.

So do u think it’s basically USO 24 his last chance?

 

[D_m_a]

Do u see Novak winning slams post AO25

Do you see him winning slams post French Open 2023 ?

I don't ...

 

[D_m_a]

Must’ve been pretty bitter to hear the crowd cheer on Carlitos, when usually a crowd will favor and aging older legend. Every time they record for one of Carlitos‘s winners, you could see the annoyed look on Djovak’s face

Well that says more about the crowd, a bunch of covidian authoritarians who hate him because he didn't take the experimental ****.

Carlos is a good little boy that took it when he was 18 - and didn't even remotely need it ... but he complies .... complies .... complies.

 

[DIMI_D]

Do you see him winning slams post French Open 2023 ?

I don't ...

From now till US 24 he is top contender I don’t see Alcaraz blocking every single change he has. He will need someone else to also step up. Alcaraz will have his upset as well in the next 5-6 slams for sure. It’s a game of probabilities and Djokers level is so much above the rest of the field ex Carlitos

 

[Razer]

So do u think it’s basically USO 24 his last chance?

AO25, he would be 37.7 or so by then, it could be his last slam when he can roll back the years, like Federer at Wimbledon in 2019, Novak could decline quickly after that....

 

[ghostofMecir]

Well that says more about the crowd, a bunch of covidian authoritarians who hate him because he didn't take the experimental ****.

Carlos is a good little boy that took it when he was 18 - and didn't even remotely need it ... but he complies .... complies .... complies.

The crowd was not cheering for Carlos because of Novak’s Covid stance or whatever — the cheering was an organic, authentic cheer for someone who was displaying some incredible shot making. Somebody posted extended highlights — literally the 25 loudest chairs are for points that Carlitos one with some amazing winner or another.

 

[Hitman]

Djokovic has max 2 slams left in him imo. Think his absolute ceiling is 25. He is certainly not done being a contender, he has still had the best slam season of everyone else on tour this year.

 

[Razer]

The crowd was not cheering for Carlos because of Novak’s Covid stance or whatever — the cheering was an organic, authentic cheer for someone who was displaying some incredible shot making. Somebody posted extended highlights — literally the 25 loudest chairs are for points that Carlitos one with some amazing winner or another.

Crowd always likes players who hit winners, you are right. It is hard to cheer for defence no matter who it is. This is human mentality.

Alcaraz in the 5th set was on fire and thats why he deserved to win.

 

[Razer]

Djokovic has max 2 slams left in him imo. Think his absolute ceiling is 25. He is certainly not done being a contender, he has still had the best slam season of everyone else on tour this year.

True, If Novak reaches 25 then we can be very happy with 25, if someone in next gen reaches 26 then they would have earned the record. We need not be upset at all.

 

[thrust]

Do u see Novak winning slams post AO25

NO!

 

[DIMI_D]

AO25, he would be 37.7 or so by then, it could be his last slam when he can roll back the years, like Federer at Wimbledon in 2019, Novak could decline quickly after that....

Depends on fitness Fed was interrupted by injuries even AO 20 he reached the semis but was hindered by the knee..

 

[DIMI_D]

Djokovic has max 2 slams left in him imo. Think his absolute ceiling is 25. He is certainly not done being a contender, he has still had the best slam season of everyone else on tour this year.

You cannot say that with certainty with the big 3 u can never write them off until they retire. They don’t have a set ceiling..

 

[NoleFam]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has complicated the situation

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan @Kralingen

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

All of these are possible if he stays in the physical shape he's in now and keeps playing at a high level. I think #1 is the most important and try to win 2 more Slams to put his record out of reach for a very very long time.

 

[thrust]

1. 50/50 for now but if he loses at the next Australian Open his chances are definitely over.
2. No
3. He is the great favorite there but it will be his last Major at 70% of his chances.
4. No.
5. No
6. No.
7. Sinner will destroy him in Turin indoors.
8. Djokovic will at most reach the semifinals at the US Open but if he gets out of hand, there's a good chance he'll get disqualified again.

The day that Sinner destroys Novak, anywhere, is the day Novak should retire.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

25-27 slams is doable still, OG, 1 more Wimbledon, 1 more us open

 

[Quaichang]

The day that Sinner destroys Novak, anywhere, is the day Novak should retire.

Could happen sooner than you think.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has complicated the situation

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan @Kralingen

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

I would say even Wimbledon 2023 was a very close match. If we think Raz's game, he is already playing great. And Nole is near his retirement so he is going to push every time he meets Alcaraz. So I am not reducing any goals for Nole.
27 slams for Nole
4th US Open first
7th ATP finals
8th Wimbledon
Oldest winner at AO
Oldest winner at Wimbledon
8 the year end number 1 is still possible but probably this is best chance.
Longevity records - most slam match wins, most slam semis (sole), QF, appearances.
110 title looks a bit difficult but still on his list.

Nole already has the domination. Even this Wimby loss is not bad because he is going for longevity records as well.

 

[Kralingen]

Looks like the emergence of Alcaraz has complicated the situation

What are the present targets for Novak ? @nachiket nolefam @NoleFam @TheNachoMan @Kralingen

I would say

01. 25 Slams
02. 8th Wimbledon
03. 11th AO
04. 400 Weeks at 1
05. 8th year end 1 if he can get the USO
06. Rosewall's record to be the oldest Grand Slam winner past 37 years and 2 months. This means he will have to win Wimbledon 2024 or something beyond.
07. 7th WTF
08. 4th USO

Beyond these 8 targets the other targets seem harder

I struggle to see him win more than 1 more Slam against Carlos. Even that feels like a longshot now. The Spaniard is currently the better player after that win, I think it’s undeniable now.

If Alcaraz is injured or something happens to him, Djokovic is primed to add more Slams. But if Alcaraz stays healthy, 25 is the absolute maximum, and it very well may be 23.

 

[Airspun]

I struggle to see him win more than 1 more Slam against Carlos. Even that feels like a longshot now. The Spaniard is currently the better player after that win, I think it’s undeniable now.

If Alcaraz is injured or something happens to him, Djokovic is primed to add more Slams. But if Alcaraz stays healthy, 25 is the absolute maximum, and it very well may be 23.

Rafa however is now guaranteed at least 25 next year!

 

[Kralingen]

Rafa however is now guaranteed at least 25 next year!

Lol

 

[Razer]

I struggle to see him win more than 1 more Slam against Carlos. Even that feels like a longshot now. The Spaniard is currently the better player after that win, I think it’s undeniable now.

If Alcaraz is injured or something happens to him, Djokovic is primed to add more Slams. But if Alcaraz stays healthy, 25 is the absolute maximum, and it very well may be 23.

He might beat Carlos only once but this doesn't mean Rune/Sinner cannot beat Carlos, those guys are young and they can go toe to toe with him on a good day, so I am giving novak 2 slams, beyond 25 even I don't see possible unless DJokovic starts to direct beat Alcaraz back to back in slams next time they meet, like for example USO 23 and AO 24 he beats Alcaraz back to back, something like that. It seems unlikely but we need to see what happens.

 

[Razer]

Alcaraz is not peak Federer to reach the finals of every slam he plays for next 3-4 years, so there shall be chances....

 

[RF-18]

Alcaraz is not peak Federer to reach the finals of every slam he plays for next 3-4 years, so there shall be chances....

Why would Djokovic need him gone though? Cause of sundays result wich got decided on a thinnest of margins? Come on. The recency bias here is strong. It's one loss. If Djokovic keeps his current level and especially physical I'm convinced Djokovic will take care of Carlos as well couple of times till the day his body starts losing those percentages in movement and mobility. I trust Djokovic 100% to keep winning slams Alcaraz or not. His game is just that good still across the board.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Alcaraz is not peak Federer to reach the finals of every slam he plays for next 3-4 years, so there shall be chances....

Also Alcaraz is not going to beat Djokovic in every slam final.

 

[Razer]

Why would Djokovic need him gone though? Cause of sundays result? Come on. The recency bias here is strong. It's one loss. If Djokovic keeps his current level and especially physical I'm convinced Djokovic will take care of Carlos as well couple of times till the day his body starts losing those percentages in movement and mobility. I trust Djokovic 100% to keep winning slams Alcaraz or not.

Djokovic can go through Alcaraz once again but again and again ? I don't like Novak's chance if Carlos meets him in the next 4 slam finals back to back.

Remember this is not Tsitsipas/Ruud, this guy is a bit different and he is 16 years younger, this is a big big big number, so on his good day he will go the distance and in a 5 setter again anything can happen as we saw at Wimbledon. Sure Novak's over confidence might have also played a role along with the wind and bad serving, but I would say Novak needs some luck as well at this stage of his career.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I just want him to stay healthy and keep being a contender. If he keeps fit and stays consistent then he will have his chances.

It’s going to be tough with ascent of alcaraz who will likely get stronger but he might not always be there to stop djoko. Djoko isn’t the no1 heavy favourite anymore but he can still go deep into slams and see what happens.

I think max he can get is 2 more slams but 1 more is more likely. For me just getting to see him play and still competing at highest level is enough. The main thing is he got 23 which is the most important thing.

 

[nolefam_2024]

Djokovic can go through Alcaraz once again but again and again ? I don't like Novak's chance if Carlos meets him in the next 4 slam finals back to back.

Remember this is not Tsitsipas/Ruud, this guy is a bit different and he is 16 years younger, this is a big big big number, so on his good day he will go the distance and in a 5 setter again anything can happen as we saw at Wimbledon. Sure Novak's over confidence might have also played a role along with the wind and bad serving, but I would say Novak needs some luck as well at this stage of his career.

Its a given that Nole will need SOME luck but he will get it. His game is complete. His body is healthy. He will get into these situations so many times and will get his chances. Its not like he is 25 right now. He has around 12 more slams to get the most out of right now. And if he can win 4 then he will be at 27.
Also in 2020s, Nole has already won 7 slams. If he can win 4 more, he will have won 11 this decade. That's pretty great.

 

[thrust]

Could happen sooner than you think.

TRUE!

 

[GoatNo1]

1. No
2. Maybe
3. No
4. 25/75
5. 50/50
6. No
7. No
8. No
9. No
10. No
11. Yes
12. No
13. No
14. No
15. No way in hell!

 

[GoatNo1]

Believe it or not but FED still has the most records

Rank	Country	Name	Records
1	SUI	Roger Federer	324
2	ESP	Rafael Nadal	210
3	SRB	Novak Djokovic	200
4	USA	Jimmy Connors	153
5	USA	Ivan Lendl	83

Those records are of no use, even connors holds many records while Pete doesn't have many, it means nothing.

Only the main records matter and most of them are with Djokovic.

Ultimate Tennis Statistics - Most Records With GOAT Points

Most Records With GOAT Points at Ultimate Tennis Statistics

www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com

 

[DSH]

You must thank the mafia of the Majors tournaments that are doing everything possible for your idol to increase his numbers to colossal levels, including the return to number 1 in the world at that very old age.

 

[Mivic]

Needs to beat Sascha at Wimbledon to complete the Zverev slam at some point.

 

[Razer]

You must thank the mafia of the Majors tournaments that are doing everything possible for your idol to increase his numbers to colossal levels, including the return to number 1 in the world at that very old age.

I doubt that.
Sure they might be making a bit favourable draw to help the top names to reach the final but this doesn't mean they are rigging for Novak to win.
In the 2000s Nadal despite being very young enjoyed favourable draws when he was rank 2 with Fed as rank 1, at that time Novak and Andy got bad draws.

 

[Julius Caesar]

Since wimby22 is asterisked slam and doesn't really count I think he might want to break the tie in slams.

 

[Razer]

Since wimby22 is asterisked slam and doesn't really count I think he might want to break the tie in slams.

Your hero is below Novak even with a freebie AO22, how does that feel ?

 

[Julius Caesar]

Your hero is below Novak even with a freebie AO22, how does that feel ?

You tell me with a freebie RG23 without Nadal contending