Upcoming Goals for Djokovic ....

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
PATHETIC, BUT FUNNY!
Djokovic is part of the establishment and tennis, like any industry, is a business.
The draws of the Majors tournaments are an important part of the fact that very old players like your idol continue to increase their number in this kind of events.
All this generates a huge revenue for all parties involved.
:cool:
 

thrust

Legend
Djokovic is part of the establishment and tennis, like any industry, is a business.
The draws of the Majors tournaments are an important part of the fact that very old players like your idol continue to increase their number in this kind of events.
All this generates a huge revenue for all parties involved.
:cool:
Wrong! In that case the same is true for Rafa and Roger.
 

nolefam_2024

Bionic Poster
RG23 was not a freebie, Nadal was broken physically and unable to compete here, but AO22 Novak was ready to beat everyone to the pulp but some politicians intervened. AO23 Novak beat everyone with such ineveitability making AO22 look like a footnote and a joke.
True. What freebie. BROKEN body Nadal has no claim on a slam title. If he can't even play r1 he should not be considered. Nole was ready to put a hammer down on Nadal in AO 22.
 

SonnyT

Legend
Win USO. It'd be a fourth 3 slam win of his career. Federer has 3, all in the easiest span; Nadal, his contemporary, has one. Nobody can say this is easy, not with Carlos in the field. A 4th win will tie him with Nadal. A 4-6 final record doesn't sound too bad.
 

GoatNo1

Hall of Fame
Win USO. It'd be a fourth 3 slam win of his career. Federer has 3, all in the easiest span; Nadal, his contemporary, has one. Nobody can say this is easy, not with Carlos in the field. A 4th win will tie him with Nadal. A 4-6 final record doesn't sound too bad.
With win he will be greater than rafa in USO. more finals and better w%.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Despite the absence of Roger and Rafael these goals can/should keep Novak motivated if he is to ascend to the next level .....

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total
02. 400+ weeks at 1 WILL BE DONE
03. 8th year end 1 WILL BE DONE

04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years.
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) DONE
07
. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) DONE
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67)
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months)
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal)
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ?
16. CYGS

Some of these goals have been achieved today with this win, big day today @nachiket nolefam @Hitman @Djokovic_is_the_best#1 @NoleFam
 
Congrats! Your boy won today.

He played well but was hoping for a more competitive final. He had a relatively easy draw but you can only play the players on the other side of the court and he deserved his title.

We have a 3-4 month wait for Australia.
Thanks. The GOAT will chill for a bit now. He can do as he pleases at this point.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Congrats! Your boy won today.

He played well but was hoping for a more competitive final. He had a relatively easy draw but you can only play the players on the other side of the court and he deserved his title.

We have a 3-4 month wait for Australia.

I would say we got our dose of entertainment today, look at the 2 hour second set, it was a war.

Djokovic outlasting someone a decade younger in that is a testimony of he deserving number 24. Med played supreme defence in that set and was still beaten, that set is the highlight of the final being competitive. 2020 onwards it has been all about Djokovic vs people 10-15 years younger, the old vs young, I like this narrative and the age gaps are too big too, always a drama like this 2nd set today.

Eventually the 2000s Borns Alcaraz/Rune/Sinner will retire Novak some point in the future, so the lets enjoy the journey and see how that happens.
 

James5000

New User
I would say we got our dose of entertainment today, look at the 2 hour second set, it was a war.

Djokovic outlasting someone a decade younger in that is a testimony of he deserving number 24. Med played supreme defence in that set and was still beaten, that set is the highlight of the final being competitive. 2020 onwards it has been all about Djokovic vs people 10-15 years younger, the old vs young, I like this narrative and the age gaps are too big too, always a drama like this 2nd set today.

Eventually the 2000s Borns Alcaraz/Rune/Sinner will retire Novak some point in the future, so the lets enjoy the journey and see how that happens.
Will they retire him or will he retire on top lol?
 

Torben

Semi-Pro
I would say we got our dose of entertainment today, look at the 2 hour second set, it was a war.

Djokovic outlasting someone a decade younger in that is a testimony of he deserving number 24. Med played supreme defence in that set and was still beaten, that set is the highlight of the final being competitive. 2020 onwards it has been all about Djokovic vs people 10-15 years younger, the old vs young, I like this narrative and the age gaps are too big too, always a drama like this 2nd set today.

Eventually the 2000s Borns Alcaraz/Rune/Sinner will retire Novak some point in the future, so the lets enjoy the journey and see how that happens.
Definitely, the 2nd set was the match.

I don't neccesarily put too much thought in the age gap to be honest. If a guy like Djokovic can play and beat guys much younger, then all the more to him. You need to look no further than Nadal beating Medvedev at the 2022 Australian Open. Medvedev is up 2 set to love to the older Nadal and looks what happens.

It's a few months to Australia and we'll see what happens.
 

James5000

New User
Yea #3 hasn't been settled yet but winning this has given him a great chance and gave him an 800 point lead over Alcaraz. Astonishing he achieved #6 and #7 in the same year at 36. Crazy.
There is a lot of work to be done yet to get that, 800 points isn't that much.
 

GabeT

G.O.A.T.
Yea #3 hasn't been settled yet but winning this has given him a great chance and gave him an 800 point lead over Alcaraz. Astonishing he achieved #6 and #7 in the same year at 36. Crazy.
Strange that Novak won 3 slams and reached finals of the other one but it’s still not clear if he will be YE1
 

NoleFam

Bionic Poster
Strange that Novak won 3 slams and reached finals of the other one but it’s still not clear if he will be YE1
I know right. I guess that's because of missing IW and Miami, and then having a rather poor clay season until RG.
 

Crocodile

G.O.A.T.
If you looking at records Novak’s next milestone would be Ken Rosewall’s oldest GS win which I think is 37 years and 2 months.
I think he has already done enough now and at 36 he still looks healthy and he has won the US title so moving into goals post tennis would be what I would go for . I think it’s always better to finish as a winner than get chronically injured or hammered by someone 20 years younger than you in the first round. Not many finish on top with the exception of Ash Barty but maybe she went too early whereas Roger had knee issues, Rafa got chronically injured. The other ones are the failed come backs like Serena and Bjorn Borg.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
If you looking at records Novak’s next milestone would be Ken Rosewall’s oldest GS win which I think is 37 years and 2 months.
I think he has already done enough now and at 36 he still looks healthy and he has won the US title so moving into goals post tennis would be what I would go for . I think it’s always better to finish as a winner than get chronically injured or hammered by someone 20 years younger than you in the first round. Not many finish on top with the exception of Ash Barty but maybe she went too early whereas Roger had knee issues, Rafa got chronically injured. The other ones are the failed come backs like Serena and Bjorn Borg.

People who chase milestones never retire when they are on top, that is a very wrong way of retiring. You should only retire when you feel it is time to move on as youngsters cannot be beaten anymore, otherwise later on you will have regrets.

A man who reached all 4 slam finals and won 3 in an year has no reason to retire for some more years.
 

Matrix968

Semi-Pro
Believe it or not but FED still has the most records

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Rafael Nadal
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Watch them closely in next 12 months, year from now and Novak will be on the top. These numbers will be changing weekly, and I'll be here to bump this thread up when it's done, it's inevitable...
 
02. 400+ weeks at 1
03. 8th year end 1
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal)
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67)

I think he'll get all of these. If he wins Wimbledon this year, he'll very likely jump to number one again and will be in pole position to hold it through the end of the year. The hard court titles record feels like a formality – he's always going to play on hard way more than anything else and it would require a massive fall for him not to win 4 more titles, even if they're all rinky-dink ones like Astana.

06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) DONE !
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) DONE!
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying

I think each of these, on its own, is quite doable. I wouldn't bet on Novak winning all of these titles again, but he certainly has it in him to peak at any given event.

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years.
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority)
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal)

These are a little tougher and further out. To beat Rosewall's record he'd have to win, at the earliest, US Open 2024, right? (I think Wimbledon be a hair too early.) I imagine Djokovic will still be contending by then, and probably beyond, but I also wouldn't be terribly surprised if his last major ends up being something sooner. And as far as beating the Little 3, a lot of that depends on everyone making the date. Not sure he'll meet all three enough to have any sizable slam rivalry with them, but we'll see.
2 out of 3 this year.Hope Novak makes them 3 out of 3 at ATP Finals
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
I think the CYGS is definitely within reach. He might even do it next year or within the next three years. Barring injury, 30-35 grand slams easily. Nadal also may not even come back next year and if he does, he'll be a shadow of his peak form.

He came VERY close to doing it this year. He dominated the French Open, Australian Open, and US Open finals in straight sets. It took a miraculous performance by Alcaraz to stop him at Wimbledon.

Other than Alcaraz, the nextgen just aren't able to challenge him enough yet in Grand Slams.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
Despite the absence of Roger and Rafael these goals can/should keep Novak motivated if he is to ascend to the next level .....

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total
02. 400+ weeks at 1 DONE
03
. 8th year end 1 DONE
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years.
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) DONE
07
. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) DONE
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67)
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months)
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) DONE
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ?
16. CYGS


02, 03, 06, 07, 14 done
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
02, 03, 06, 07, 14 done

You can pretty much write 1st and 11th ones in as well...they seem inevitable to me at this point! 12th also seems pretty do-able! The rest is a gamble (especially 4th one and 13th one! And the last two are borderline impossible imho...) We will also find out in a week whether he gets 7th YEC or not...if he doesn't this year, then i'm skeptical he'll get another chance for the reminder of his career (he may still be qualifying, but the competition will be getting more and more brutal with each new edition to the point, where it will start feeling like Novak is the weakest link in the group each time...)
 
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Razer

G.O.A.T.
You can pretty much wright 1st and 11th ones in as well...they seem inevitable to me at this point! 12th also seems pretty do-able! The rest is a gamble (especially 4th one and 13th one! And the last two are borderline impossible imho...)

Yes 11 is almost certain

1 I donno for sure, but yes 1 more slam should not be an issue if he is fit.

10th one too could happen, 7th WTF if he wins this year, I think this year is the best chance to do it, next year who knows.....
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Yes 11 is almost certain

1 I donno for sure, but yes 1 more slam should not be an issue if he is fit.

10th one too could happen, 7th WTF if he wins this year, I think this year is the best chance to do it, next year who knows.....

But the way you said it is 25+, which suggests 25 or more, right? Are you telling me you doubt Novak wins just one more grand slam tournament?! Come on now don't be ridiculous! LOL He has it on the plate! if not at AO, then at the Wimbledon...if not there then at the USO, in fact at any of the 4 slams!...He is the fauvorite to win whichever slam he plays honestly! (Even RG, because let's face it Rafa's form will be very questionable next year...and he will have to deal with nightmar-ish draws all the time! Imagine having to play like 3 or 4 top-10 fully motivated players back-to-back-to-back-to-back consecutively, who are at least decade younger than you! Nadal will be the toast in 2024 in majors! Whenever he is not the favourite to win any of the 4 slams - Novak is! And that is no different at RG, except maybe when Thiem or Wawrinka were peaking, but these days they aren't problem so...) You doubt he'll get just one more?! pftt...it's not the question of "IF" it's "WHEN"...
 
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Razer

G.O.A.T.
But the way you said it is 25+, which suggests 25 or more, right? Are you telling me you doubt Novak wins just one more grand slam tournament?! Come on now don't be ridiculous! LOL He has it on the plate! if not at AO, then at the Wimbledon...if not there then at the USO, in fact at any of the 4 slams!...He is the fauvorite to win whichever slam he plays honestly! (Even RG, because let's face it Rafa's form will be very questionable next year...and he will have to deal with nightmar-ish draws all the time! Imagine having to play like 3 or 4 top-10 fully motivated players back-to-back-to-back-to-back consecutively, who are at least decade younger than you! Nadal will be the toast in 2024 in majors! Whenever he is not the favourite to win any of the 4 slams - Novak is! And that is no different at RG, except maybe when Thiem or Wawrinka were peaking, but these days they aren't problem so...) You doubt he'll get just one more?! pftt...it's not the question of "IF" it's "WHEN"...

he could suffer a career ending knee injury and never win a slam again

Life in uncertain, no slam is won until it is won.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Legend
1 will definitely happen imho, 11 and 12 as well. 4 I do not know what exactly is meant with few times. He can easily beat those three.
5 is also doable. With 5 he would do 1 and (almost) 8 at the same time as well (would miss Rosewall’s record by few weeks).
The only one I can’t see him doing anymore at that point is the CYGS.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
1 will definitely happen imho, 11 and 12 as well. 4 I do not know what exactly is meant with few times. He can easily beat those three.
5 is also doable. With 5 he would do 1 and (almost) 8 at the same time as well (would miss Rosewall’s record by few weeks).
The only one I can’t see him doing anymore at that point is the CYGS.

Winning grand slam in 40's also sounds too crazy to me personally! It's just so unlikely, that i'd rather believe he wins 2nd olympic gold in Los Angeles after winning next year in Paris, then in him winning even one grand slam tournament in 2nd half of 2027 and beyond...i can't even see 2026 happening from where we stand now, 2027? definitely a huuuge stretch!...
 

BorgTheGOAT

Legend
Winning grand slam in 40's also sounds too crazy to me personally! It's just so unlikely, that i'd rather believe he wins 2nd olympic gold in Los Angeles after winning next year in Paris, then in him winning even one grand slam tournament in 2nd half of 2027 and beyond...i can't even see 2026 happening from where we stand now, 2027? definitely a huuuge stretch!...
Yea missed that one. Also not happening.
 

esben80

New User
Yes 11 is almost certain

1 I donno for sure, but yes 1 more slam should not be an issue if he is fit.

10th one too could happen, 7th WTF if he wins this year, I think this year is the best chance to do it, next year who knows.....
Is it really a debate that he will win at least one more slam, after a season in which he was one point away from completing the CYGS? We can talk about a decline when it actually happens, not simply because he is older. Physically and mentally, he looks stronger than ever. Alcaraz may win a slam here and there but I fully expect Novak to rack up 8-10 more slams in the next 3 years.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
Is it really a debate that he will win at least one more slam, after a season in which he was one point away from completing the CYGS? We can talk about a decline when it actually happens, not simply because he is older. Physically and mentally, he looks stronger than ever. Alcaraz may win a slam here and there but I fully expect Novak to rack up 8-10 more slams in the next 3 years.

Agree on the first part, it's crazy not to expect him to at absolutely least add another grand slam title to his name, but expecting him to win 8-10 more is also just as crazy! You may wanna temper down those expectations a notch, cuz that ain't happening...
 

pirhaksar

Professional
I think he will take 2 more slams over everything else at this point - one more USO to balance the rather unseemly finals losses would be ideal. 8th Wimby doesn’t put him ahead of Fed there. Another FO gets him 4 times CYGS but I think we can agree Rafa will have something to say about that next year LOL. I know he covets the OG but that unhealthy obsession is counterproductive and I just don’t see it happening, might as well focus only on slams.
 

pirhaksar

Professional
Agree on the first part, it's crazy not to expect him to at absolutely least add another grand slam title to his name, but expecting him to win 8-10 more is also just as crazy! You may wanna temper down those expectations a notch, cuz that ain't happening...
There’s some signs that are concerning. His entire game never seems to be on at all times. He is getting by with his superior game management and tactical weaponry. If FH and BH are on song then serve deserts him at key moments. Sometimes it’s the BH. There is unevenness relative to his prior years. He has one too many mental lapses. Never seen him give up a TB like yday and not being able to consolidate breaks. He is still fast and nimble around the court. But I do see some signs.
 

Djokodalerer31

Hall of Fame
I think he will take 2 more slams over everything else at this point - one more USO to balance the rather unseemly finals losses would be ideal. 8th Wimby doesn’t put him ahead of Fed there. Another FO gets him 4 times CYGS but I think we can agree Rafa will have something to say about that next year LOL. I know he covets the OG but that unhealthy obsession is counterproductive and I just don’t see it happening, might as well focus only on slams.

Olympic Gold is not unrealistic! If he can manage to win 3 out of 4 slams of the year and end up a runner-up of the remaining one, i see no reason why he cannot win a BO3 clay court tournament if he put his focus on that! Like i can't see a reason to believe he can't win more Cincinnati titles or Monte-Carlo titles or whatever! Whenever Novak plays on top of his game - he has a chance to win it! And that includes Olympic Tournament as well!...
 

esben80

New User
Agree on the first part, it's crazy not to expect him to at absolutely least add another grand slam title to his name, but expecting him to win 8-10 more is also just as crazy! You may wanna temper down those expectations a notch, cuz that ain't happening...
Novak has been winning 3 slams per year since 2019 (2020 he would have done so if WB was played and he didn’t get DQed at USO, same in 2022 when he wasn’t allowed to play AO and USO). So till the time he stops winning 3 slams per year, 8-10 more is a very realistic expectation. Could be even more but he will probably get bored after winning 35+ slams!
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
I think he will take 2 more slams over everything else at this point - one more USO to balance the rather unseemly finals losses would be ideal. 8th Wimby doesn’t put him ahead of Fed there. Another FO gets him 4 times CYGS but I think we can agree Rafa will have something to say about that next year LOL. I know he covets the OG but that unhealthy obsession is counterproductive and I just don’t see it happening, might as well focus only on slams.

A 5th USO is very important to go past Nadal and balance those final losses.
A 11th AO could happen, he is the fav
An 8th Wimbledon could happen
A 4th French Open seems very unlikely to me.

Is it really a debate that he will win at least one more slam, after a season in which he was one point away from completing the CYGS? We can talk about a decline when it actually happens, not simply because he is older. Physically and mentally, he looks stronger than ever. Alcaraz may win a slam here and there but I fully expect Novak to rack up 8-10 more slams in the next 3 years.

Like I said, a career ending injury could halt him, if fit he wins more slams, and despite all this he is not gonna win 8-10 more in 3 years or even 4 years, that is not possible. The field has people really young and they are all gonna peak in 2 years time both physically and gamewise,

Alcaraz as great as his wimbledon win was lacked shot tolerance on many occasions during that match, once all those shanks will stop happening he will be unbeatable there for Nole.
 

pirhaksar

Professional
Olympic Gold is not unrealistic! If he can manage to win 3 out of 4 slams of the year and end up a runner-up of the remaining one, i see no reason why he cannot win a BO3 clay court tournament if he put his focus on that! Like i can't see a reason to believe he can't win more Cincinnati titles or Monte-Carlo titles or whatever! Whenever Novak plays on top of his game - he has a chance to win it! And that includes Olympic Tournament as well!...
I am not saying it’s unrealistic. He takes that more seriously than he needs to. I won’t call it an exhibition but the importance of OG is more recent when people started comparing titles for the Big 3. Pete didn’t even bother. Point is, I still remember how he mentally folded against Zed, seemed like he was coasting a set and break up. For a supposedly mentally greatest that unraveling was shocking. That’s why I don’t think OG is happening. He needs to let it happen organically. 24 is also on clay and Rafa will be around as well.
 

Razer

G.O.A.T.
I am not saying it’s unrealistic. He takes that more seriously than he needs to. I won’t call it an exhibition but the importance of OG is more recent when people started comparing titles for the Big 3. Pete didn’t even bother. Point is, I still remember how he mentally folded against Zed, seemed like he was coasting a set and break up. For a supposedly mentally greatest that unraveling was shocking. That’s why I don’t think OG is happening. He needs to let it happen organically. 24 is also on clay and Rafa will be around as well.

OG is something which has been pumped by the establishment & Nole who behaves cringe with his obsession, but in reality nothing can be pumped by just marketing it, you need to provide quality to the tournament, that is lacking. When we have slams then who will care for a worthless exhibition ? Tennis infact is an exhibition at the olympics, unlike the swimmers/sprinters/gymnasts etc etc who are there for the real deal after preparing 4 years for it. However Tennis doesnt have anybody preparing 4 years for the olympics, the tennis tourney is more of an exhibition of tennis skills by the top players there.

At the GOAT level only Slams, H2H & Rank 1 Stats matter, everything else is just not relevant and surprisingly the Olympics has 0 points in the calendar years and is BO3..... that explains it.....
 

McGradey

Hall of Fame
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