Upcoming Goals for Djokovic ....

[nolefam_2024]

OG is something which has been pumped by the establishment & Nole who behaves cringe with his obsession, but in reality nothing can be pumped by just marketing it, you need to provide quality to the tournament, that is lacking. When we have slams then who will care for a worthless exhibition ? Tennis infact is an exhibition at the olympics, unlike the swimmers/sprinters/gymnasts etc etc who are there for the real deal after preparing 4 years for it. However Tennis doesnt have anybody preparing 4 years for the olympics, the tennis tourney is more of an exhibition of tennis skills by the top players there.

At the GOAT level only Slams, H2H & Rank 1 Stats matter, everything else is just not relevant and surprisingly the Olympics has 0 points in the calendar years and is BO3..... that explains it.....

Correction. Next new athletes are coming up and he has 1 year now not couple of years.

Alcaraz was 2 years behind full time number 1 at the start of this year. In 2025 Jan, he will be 21 and 3 quarters. Same with rune. And sinner is already 22. Nole can win a couple of slams next year and 1 more in 2025 according to me. Let's see.

 

[pirhaksar]

OG is something which has been pumped by the establishment & Nole who behaves cringe with his obsession, but in reality nothing can be pumped by just marketing it, you need to provide quality to the tournament, that is lacking. When we have slams then who will care for a worthless exhibition ? Tennis infact is an exhibition at the olympics, unlike the swimmers/sprinters/gymnasts etc etc who are there for the real deal after preparing 4 years for it. However Tennis doesnt have anybody preparing 4 years for the olympics, the tennis tourney is more of an exhibition of tennis skills by the top players there.

At the GOAT level only Slams, H2H & Rank 1 Stats matter, everything else is just not relevant and surprisingly the Olympics has 0 points in the calendar years and is BO3..... that explains it.....

I agree with you. For sports like tennis Olympics is about the spirit of participation and representing your country and flag with pride. You are the ambassador for your country on a global stage shared with elite athletes from every sport. Djokovic is just too nationalistic and wants to endear himself up Serbians worldwide. It is almost unhealthy. But he is stubborn which is also why he has accomplished what he has, so I guess never say never. I reckon he will run for public office at some point also.

 

[Razer]

I reckon he will run for public office at some point also.

Yeah, he could be the president of Serbia in the distant future in his 50s, entirely possible.

Correction. Next new athletes are coming up and he has 1 year now not couple of years.

Alcaraz was 2 years behind full time number 1 at the start of this year. In 2025 Jan, he will be 21 and 3 quarters. Same with rune. And sinner is already 22. Nole can win a couple of slams next year and 1 more in 2025 according to me. Let's see.

2025 will definitely be a hard year, Alcaraz will be 22, Rune will be 22, Ben Shelton will be 22, Sinner will be 23.5-24ish.... Or it could still be same as 2023 if the field does not improve their skills a lot in 2 years time. Unlikely, but who knows.

12 months from now we will get a clearer picture of what is in store for in 2025.

 

[Matrix968]

Watch them closely in next 12 months, year from now and Novak will be on the top. These numbers will be changing weekly, and I'll be here to bump this thread up when it's done, it's inevitable...

Just after two months...
Roger 318 (-6)
Novak 221 (+21)
Tried to insert new table but couldn't...

 

[nolefam_2024]

Yeah, he could be the president of Serbia in the distant future in his 50s, entirely possible.



2025 will definitely be a hard year, Alcaraz will be 22, Rune will be 22, Ben Shelton will be 22, Sinner will be 23.5-24ish.... Or it could still be same as 2023 if the field does not improve their skills a lot in 2 years time. Unlikely, but who knows.

12 months from now we will get a clearer picture of what is in store for in 2025.

The field especially sinner has leaped past their performance last year. We will see for the rest.

 

[Djokodalerer31]

OG is something which has been pumped by the establishment & Nole who behaves cringe with his obsession, but in reality nothing can be pumped by just marketing it, you need to provide quality to the tournament, that is lacking. When we have slams then who will care for a worthless exhibition ? Tennis infact is an exhibition at the olympics, unlike the swimmers/sprinters/gymnasts etc etc who are there for the real deal after preparing 4 years for it. However Tennis doesnt have anybody preparing 4 years for the olympics, the tennis tourney is more of an exhibition of tennis skills by the top players there.

At the GOAT level only Slams, H2H & Rank 1 Stats matter, everything else is just not relevant and surprisingly the Olympics has 0 points in the calendar years and is BO3..... that explains it.....

Ooh guys, i understand the sentiment, trust me! But Olympic Gold is something, that is missing from Novak's resume, for the sake of completion it's the only thing left to be collected for otherwise perfect Nole's trophy cabinet! Nobody says importance of olympic tournament is great, but in the context of Novak's achievements specifically it is as important as everything else worth of note! No matter how you try to downplay the importance of olympic tournament in tennis, at least you have to admit it is more important than your regular ATp250/500 event, even though those are ranked and have prize money!...Winning olympic gold will make Novak the only person to achieve the ultra rare Career Super Slam, which is something only Agassi has at the moment! And when you put in the context of other 14 elite tournaments, all of which Novak also has won it will make Novak the sole owner of all 15 coveted and highly regarded events in tennis!...For someone else Olympic Tournament is just an average event, that doesn't really matter all that much, but in the context of Novak's achievements the importance skyrockets, because it's the only thing he is missing!

 

[Razer]

Ooh guys, i understand the sentiment, trust me! But Olympic Gold is something, that is missing from Novak's resume, for the sake of completion it's the only thing left to be collected for otherwise perfect Nole's trophy cabinet! Nobody says importance of olympic tournament is great, but in the context of Novak's achievements specifically it is as important as everything else worth of note! No matter how you try to downplay the importance of olympic tournament in tennis, at least you have to admit it is more important than your regular ATp250/500 event, even though those are ranked and have prize money!...Winning olympic gold will make Novak the only person to achieve the ultra rare Career Super Slam, which is something only Agassi has at the moment! And when you put in the context of other 14 elite tournaments, all of which Novak also has won it will make Novak the sole owner of all 15 coveted and highly regarded events in tennis!...For someone else Olympic Tournament is just an average event, that doesn't really matter all that much, but in the context of Novak's achievements the importance skyrockets, because it's the only thing he is missing!

Super Slam is a fan created term.
In reality Sampras even without French open was considered greater than Agassi ...... in this era CGS/DCGS/TCGS are paid more attention to, so we can say winning all slams is important but Olympics ? It it not that vital, sure it is missing from his cabinet and if he wins then good, but if he doesnt then it should not matter. The problem is if Novak makes the OIympics a big deal and talks about it then he will be trolled when he fails to win it.

 

[pirhaksar]

Ooh guys, i understand the sentiment, trust me! But Olympic Gold is something, that is missing from Novak's resume, for the sake of completion it's the only thing left to be collected for otherwise perfect Nole's trophy cabinet! Nobody says importance of olympic tournament is great, but in the context of Novak's achievements specifically it is as important as everything else worth of note! No matter how you try to downplay the importance of olympic tournament in tennis, at least you have to admit it is more important than your regular ATp250/500 event, even though those are ranked and have prize money!...Winning olympic gold will make Novak the only person to achieve the ultra rare Career Super Slam, which is something only Agassi has at the moment! And when you put in the context of other 14 elite tournaments, all of which Novak also has won it will make Novak the sole owner of all 15 coveted and highly regarded events in tennis!...For someone else Olympic Tournament is just an average event, that doesn't really matter all that much, but in the context of Novak's achievements the importance skyrockets, because it's the only thing he is missing!

He has a medal -…good enough. Yellow metal is not mandatory!

 

[jm1980]

RF has more majors than ND at 2 of the 4.
RN has more majors than ND at 2 of the 4.
RF has more majors than RN at 3 of the 4.

Ultimately majors are what is important. What does this tell us ?

Even at the time this was written, the converse was also true, i.e.:

ND has more majors than RF at 2 of the 4.
ND has more majors than RN at 2 of the 4.

 

[jm1980]

1. No
2. Maybe
3. No
4. 25/75
5. 50/50
6. No
7. No
8. No
9. No
10. No
11. Yes
12. No
13. No
14. No
15. No way in hell!

LOL, look at what blind hatred does to someone

 

[Razer]

Despite the absence of Roger and Rafael these goals can/should keep Novak motivated if he is to ascend to the next level .....

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total
02. 400+ weeks at 1 DONE
03. 8th year end 1 DONE
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years.
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) DONE
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) DONE
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying DONE
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67)
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months)
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) DONE
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ?
16. CYGS

Number 10 done as well.....

 

[Cortana]

Is it really that unlikely that he will do most of the list?

 

[Jonesy]

All seem reasonable, i think he will achieve all of them.

 

[ImmorTAL Big 3]

Despite the absence of Roger and Rafael these goals can/should keep Novak motivated if he is to ascend to the next level .....

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total
02. 400+ weeks at 1
03. 8th year end 1
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years.
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance)
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance)
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67)
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months)
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal)
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ?
16. CYGS

Only in 2023 he have achieved almost half of these records which is insane-records 2,3,6,7,10,11 and 14 have already been achieved.
I say apart from record 15 and 16 all others are pretty achievable.

 

[urban]

One Grand Slam.

 

[jm1980]

Despite the absence of Roger and Rafael these goals can/should keep Novak motivated if he is to ascend to the next level .....

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total
02. 400+ weeks at 1
03. 8th year end 1
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years.
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance)
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance)
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67)
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months)
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal)
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ?
16. CYGS

7 out of 16 completed in 2023, and made excellent progress towards some of the others

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total - In progress (1 to go)
02. 400+ weeks at 1 - DONE ✓
03. 8th year end 1 - DONE ✓
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years. - In progress
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) - DONE ✓
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) - DONE ✓
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months - Needs to win a Slam at 2024 USO (or later)
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority) - In progress (11 needed to tie)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying - DONE ✓
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67) - DONE (tie) ✓
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months) - Needs to hold #1 on or after April 7th, 2024
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal) - Needs to win a Slam at 2025 AO (or later, 2025 AO would be a tie)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) - DONE ✓
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ? - Needs to win a Slam at 2027 RG (or later)
16. CYGS

 

[Djokodalerer31]

7 out of 16 completed in 2023, and made excellent progress towards some of the others

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total - In progress (1 to go)
02. 400+ weeks at 1 - DONE ✓
03. 8th year end 1 - DONE ✓
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years. - In progress
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities)
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) - DONE ✓
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) - DONE ✓
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months - Needs to win a Slam at 2024 USO (or later)
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority) - In progress (11 needed to tie)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying - DONE ✓
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67) - DONE (tie) ✓
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months) - Needs to hold #1 on or after April 7th, 2024
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal) - Needs to win a Slam at 2025 AO (or later, 2025 AO would be a tie)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) - DONE (tie) ✓
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ? - Needs to win a Slam at 2027 RG (or later)
16. CYGS

It's not a tie for Novak on 14th! He now has longer span with 13 years separating his 1st YE#1 and his most recent! Nadal has only 12!...13 years span includes the year, which started it, same for Nadal's 12...2008 is the year, that started Nadal's span and 2019 is the year, that ended it, for Novak 2011 is the year, that started his span and 2023 is the current and most recent year! So year longer than Nadal!...

 

[Razer]

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total - In progress (1 to go)
02. 400+ weeks at 1 - DONE ✓
03. 8th year end 1 - DONE ✓
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years. - In progress
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities) In progress but seems unlikely now.
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) - DONE ✓
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) - DONE ✓
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months - Needs to win a Slam at 2024 USO (or later)
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority) - In progress (10 needed to tie)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying - DONE ✓
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67) - DONE (tie) ✓
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months) - DONE ✓
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal) - Needs to win a Slam at 2025 AO (or later, 2025 AO would be a tie)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) - DONE ✓
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ? - Needs to win a Slam at 2027 RG (or later)
16. CYGS - Impossible, that ship has sailed past him for the last time but that's OK
17. Olympics Gold Medal - DONE ✓

 

[Djokodalerer31]

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total - In progress (1 to go)
02. 400+ weeks at 1 - DONE ✓
03. 8th year end 1 - DONE ✓
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years. - In progress
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities) In progress but seems unlikely now.
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) - DONE ✓
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) - DONE ✓
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months - Needs to win a Slam at 2024 USO (or later)
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority) - In progress (10 needed to tie)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying - DONE ✓
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67) - DONE (tie) ✓
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months) - DONE ✓
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal) - Needs to win a Slam at 2025 AO (or later, 2025 AO would be a tie)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) - DONE ✓
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ? - Needs to win a Slam at 2027 RG (or later)
16. CYGS - Impossible, that ship has sailed past him for the last time but that's OK
17. Olympics Gold Medal - DONE ✓

I think of the ones, that still remain he will do 1st and 8th simultaneously and probably 13th too (yes i still think grand slam title is still on the cards for Novak even in 2025 as crazy as it may sound for some TTW members here...), the rest ranges from unobtainable to tricky to pull off! Like you said CYGS is out of questions now and i don't really think he will be winning slams in 2027 in singles LOL, cuz that's just nuts! Connors' record of 109 open era titles is something like 40/60, less likely than more likely let's call it that, i also agree on 8th Wimbledon, probably not gonna happen at this point, as for beating Alcaraz, Sinner or Rune (i don't understand why you insist on including him in this group, considering his most recent questionable results, but whatever...), i think he'll be beating Rune in slams, but he still has to crack the formula beating Sinner and Alcaraz in BO5, last time it didn't go well, lot's of adjustments need to be made, maybe this recent olympic victory will help or maybe no...time will tell, i personally wouldn't completely rule out victory against either one of the or both, but it's a coin toss really...

 

[Razer]

I think of the ones, that still remain he will do 1st and 8th simultaneously and probably 13th too (yes i still think grand slam title is still on the cards for Novak even in 2025 as crazy as it may sound for some TTW members here...), the rest ranges from unobtainable to tricky to pull off! Like you said CYGS is out of questions now and i don't really think he will be winning slams in 2027 in singles LOL, cuz that's just nuts! Connors' record of 109 open era titles is something like 40/60, less likely than more likely let's call it that, i also agree on 8th Wimbledon, probably not gonna happen at this point, as for beating Alcaraz, Sinner or Rune (i don't understand why you insist on including him in this group, considering his most recent questionable results, but whatever...), i think he'll be beating Rune in slams, but he still has to crack the formula beating Sinner and Alcaraz in BO5, last time it didn't go well, lot's of adjustments need to be made, maybe this recent olympic victory will help or maybe no...time will tell, i personally wouldn't completely rule out victory against either one of the or both, but it's a coin toss really...

When I made this list then I had some hopes on Rune, that view has changed, today he looks like a complete mug with no future.

Connors record is possible IMO because Novak now will have to play some 250s too as it is not possible for him to target all the big tournaments all year, so he will need little points too and he can obviously win 250s till he is 40, so he can go past connors I think. It is not impossible if he puts his mind to it, he said he isn't retiring anytime soon.

 

[itrium84]

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total - In progress (1 to go)
02. 400+ weeks at 1 - DONE ✓
03. 8th year end 1 - DONE ✓
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years. - In progress
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities) In progress but seems unlikely now.
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) - DONE ✓
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) - DONE ✓
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months - Needs to win a Slam at 2024 USO (or later)
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority) - In progress (10 needed to tie)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying - DONE ✓
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67) - DONE (tie) ✓
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months) - DONE ✓
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal) - Needs to win a Slam at 2025 AO (or later, 2025 AO would be a tie)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) - DONE ✓
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ? - Needs to win a Slam at 2027 RG (or later)
16. CYGS - Impossible, that ship has sailed past him for the last time but that's OK
17. Olympics Gold Medal - DONE ✓

So much of green color here, he's amazing. GOAT stuff.

 

[pirhaksar]

01. 25+ Grand Slams in total - In progress (1 to go)
02. 400+ weeks at 1 - DONE ✓
03. 8th year end 1 - DONE ✓
04. Need to beat Alcaraz, Rune & Sinner in Grand Slams a few times over the next 2-3 years. - In progress
05. 8th Wimbledon to be won (has this year / next year, he has 2 opportunities) In progress but seems unlikely now.
06. Aim for a 4th US Open (this year is his best chance) - DONE ✓
07. Aim for a 3rd French Open Title (this year is his only chance) - DONE ✓
08. Break Ken Rosewall's record of oldest GS winner @ 37yrs 2 months - Needs to win a Slam at 2024 USO (or later)
09. Attempt at Connors's 109 titles record (low priority) - In progress (10 needed to tie)
10. Try for 7th WTF Title, very hard but no harm in trying - DONE ✓
11. Most HC Titles (record held by Federer [71 titles] ... Novak is on 67) - DONE (tie) ✓
12. Oldest ATP Rank 1 (record held by Federer at 36yrs 10days 10 months) - DONE ✓
13. Longest gap between 1st slam and last slam (17 yrs ... held by nadal) - Needs to win a Slam at 2025 AO (or later, 2025 AO would be a tie)
14. Longest gap between 1st year end 1 and last year end 1 (12 yrs ..nadal) - DONE ✓
15. Distant goal ... possibly unachievable ..... Attempt to become the first man to win a slam in 40s ? - Needs to win a Slam at 2027 RG (or later)
16. CYGS - Impossible, that ship has sailed past him for the last time but that's OK
17. Olympics Gold Medal - DONE ✓

This needs to go on Twitter and catch his attention, then its probably on.. the list is crazy but not impossible