US Open 2018 - Men’s singles discussion thread

[Deleted member 77403]

Federer defended Hamburg, Djokovic defended Rome.

Djokovic also defended on grass at Wimbledon 2014 to 2015.

Federer and Djokovic have defended on all three surfaces.

 

[moonballs]

Are we gonna keep making up nonsensical criteria?

Are we going to keep giving the same guy cake draws?

 

[Red Rick]

Are we going to keep giving the same guy cake draws?

Are we gonna keep pretending Fed never got cake draws?

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Hahahaha
Yeah
All this "defending" a title. Means nothing.

Can't be bothered.

I think it shows consistency and how dominant a player is.

Can’t deny that.

 

[Sartorius]

Fed:
R1 someone irrelevant.
R2 Benoit Paire
R3 Krygios
R4 Chung/Fabio
QFs Novak
SFs Cilic/Zverev
Final Nad/Delpo

 

[moonballs]

Has Nadal EVER got Djoker in his half at USO? I don't remember.

Btw Fed got him in 08, 09, 10, 11 and again in 18. Five times.

These years you pointed out are pretty much most of fhe meaningful years in the sense all three are true contenders of the slams. 07 and earlier Nadal was not good enough on hard and Djoker not good enough on grass. 2015-16 Nadal was in a slump. Most of the years Nadal didn’t mind playing the other two on clay since he is so good there, but that one year where it was questionable we got Fed Djoker SF on clay as well (2011RG).

In hindsight, definitely something not random is happening with the draws.

If Our President was Fed’s manager, he would have tweeted 12 times already to ask Russian to hack into USTA for draw fixing evidence.

 

[Red Rick]

I think it shows consistency and how dominant a player is.

Can’t deny that.

I think general title counts show that enough on their own.

Stratisfying stats and then using bullcrap arguments to imply Rafa's a one surface pony is one of the most bs things on this forum.

I'll give you another stat

Rafa is the only player in the OE who has won multiple Slams on every surface

 

[moonballs]

Are we gonna keep pretending Fed never got cake draws?

Always != not never, are we going to continue not knowing the difference?

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

I think general title counts show that enough on their own.

Stratisfying stats and then using bullcrap arguments to imply Rafa's a one surface pony is one of the most bs things on this forum.

I'll give you another stat

Rafa is the only player in the OE who has won multiple Slams on every surface

Rafa had won every slam at the age of 23.

 

[Red Rick]

Rafa had won every slam at the age of 23.

That makes me feel old.

I should stop comparing myself to Rafael Nadal

Although I am taller and have more hair

 

[tennis_crazy]

Stratifying by surface and then counting surfaces equally is in the top 5 dumbest things tennis fans do. And there's legions of dumb tennis fans

Defending a title outside of one's comfort zone where about 70% of the tour is played is one of the very least thing one can expect of a GOAT contender.....not simply bloating your resume with titles from your preferred surface

 

[Tiki-Taka]

Nadal is the only guy who has won three US Open titles in this decade but I am sure he is losing sleep because he didn't win them in succession.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

That makes me feel old.

I should stop comparing myself to Rafael Nadal

Although I am taller and have more hair

I bet Rafa would love being taller (all men do) and have more hair.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Rafa had won every slam at the age of 23.

I’m 23 and my biggest achievement in life is beating a bunch of Japanese dudes at Mario Kart.

Wait, that’s way harder than winning grand slam titles..

Me>>>>>>Nadal

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

I’m 23 and my biggest achievement in life is beating a bunch of Japanese dudes at Mario Kart.

Wait, that’s way harder than winning grand slam titles..

Me>>>>>>Nadal

Ive done nothing to brag about in my life. So I am easily impressed.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Ive done nothing to brag about in my life. So I am easily impressed.

You’ve been all around the globe and done some interesting things by the sound of it.

I’d like to travel the world but two things:
1. It’s dangerous
2. It takes effort

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Rafa had won every slam at the age of 23.

He was 24.

 

[clayqueen]

Nadal is the only guy who has won three US Open titles in this decade but I am sure he is losing sleep because he didn't win them in succession.

Rafa has only played the USO 8 times in the last 10 years and won it 3 times and this was supposed to be his worst surface.

 

[clayqueen]

Yes

Djoko defended Rome in 2015 - Taking the chance in Rafa's worst year ever.

Fed defended Hamburg in 2005. - Weak era. Yet Fed didn't manage to bag a RG title before the King of Clay was old enough to play there.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Rafa has only played the USO 8 times in the last 10 years and won it 3 times and this was supposed to be his worst surface.

Grass is his “worst” surface.

The high bouncing courts do help.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Nadal is the only guy who has won three US Open titles in this decade but I am sure he is losing sleep because he didn't win them in succession.

According to this gem that made my IQ go lower, he probably is losing sleep.

If you don't defend it means you probably got lucky that year with an easy draw.

 

[clayqueen]

Grass is his “worst” surface.

The high bouncing courts do help.

You guys have to make your minds up. The USO was the tournament Rafa was never supposed to win, wasn't it?

 

[stringertom]

I think it shows consistency and how dominant a player is.

Can’t deny that.

What does it mean when you defend slams 4x on two different surfaces pretty much concurrently???

Has anybody done that? I'm not sure about that because it really doesn't matter. I can't be bothered with meaningless accomplishments from an extremely weak era, like winning 11 slams in four years.

This place is a total zoo. I'll let you take over as ringmaster. Your paranoia will come in handy, along with a fair dose of schizophrenia.

 

[Red Rick]

What does it mean when you defend slams 4x on two different surfaces pretty much concurrently???

Has anybody done that? I'm not sure about that because it really doesn't matter. I can't be bothered with meaningless accomplishments from an extremely weak era, like winning 11 slams in four years.

This place is a total zoo. I'll let you take over as ringmaster. Your paranoia will come in handy, along with a fair dose of schizophrenia.

Nobody says winning 11 Slams in 4 year means nothing.

But I'm not entirely sure winning 11 Slams in 4 years means more than winning 11 Slams in 5 or 6 years, except for not winning more Slams in the longer period.

Slam counts are important enough on their own. Distribution across Slams and time makes no difference to me.

 

[octobrina10]

 

[eldanger25]

I think general title counts show that enough on their own.

Stratisfying stats and then using bullcrap arguments to imply Rafa's a one surface pony is one of the most bs things on this forum.

I'll give you another stat

Rafa is the only player in the OE who has won multiple Slams on every surface

Mats Wilander.

 

[Red Rick]

Mats Wilander.

Good catch

I missed that.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

I think it shows consistency and how dominant a player is.

Can’t deny that.

Being the youngest in history to have all slams and having defended on clay already is a pretty cool thing.

He has enough trophies outside Clay to prove what a great player he is.

It's incredible what he has done.

 

[tennis_pro]

I hope Ferrer is training hard.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Being the youngest in history to have all slams

No, that is not true.

Don Budge won The Grand Slam, all four in a row while he was 23 years old.

Laver won The Grand Slam, all four slams in a row just days after his 24th birthday.

Nadal is the youngest in the open era, and also the youngest golden career slam winner in history.

 

[octobrina10]

A new job:

US Open Tennis‏Verified account @usopen 39m39 minutes ago
Yesterday, 2017 #USOpen finalist @KAndersonATP and Grand Slam winner @CaroWozniacki rang the closing bell at the New York Stock Exchange!

 

[Mainad]

I hope Ferrer is training hard.

You bet. Here's a pic to prove it!

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

A new job:

US Open Tennis‏Verified account @usopen 39m39 minutes ago
Yesterday, 2017 #USOpen finalist @KAndersonATP and Grand Slam winner @CaroWozniacki rang the closing bell at the New York Stock Exchange!

Caroline looking fantastic

 

[SeeingDusk]

2007 is correct. He also did the Cincy-USO double in 2005.

did fed do the cinci double in 2004 and 2006 too? what about 2007? 2008?

 

[Red Rick]

You bet. Here's a pic to prove it!

Chances of Ferrer getting smoked?

 

[Big_Dangerous]

Ferrer's last slam against Nadal, Benneteau's last tournament before retirement, Gilles Muller's last tournament, Florian Mayer's last tournament, Ivo Karlovic's last slam and he got knocked out in the qualies, Youzhny's 2nd to last tournament.

They're all retiring at the end of the year? Wow, that's sad.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

you think that is normal ?

Possible 2nd round rematch of Bullsheet Russian and The Good Kid!

 

[buscemi]

did fed do the cinci double in 2004 and 2006 too? what about 2007? 2008?

Years Federer Won the U.S. Open

2004: Lost to Hrbaty in the first round of Cincinnati (Hrbaty was actually 2-1 against Federer in his career)
2005: Won Cincinnati, beating Roddick in the final
2006: The break-fast 2nd round loss to Murray at Cincinnati
2007: Smoked Blake in the final to win Cincinnati
2008: Lost a 3 setter to Karlovic in the third round at Cincinnati, losing both tiebreak sets.

 

[Big_Dangerous]

I hope Ferrer is training hard.

He's probably smokin' hard!

 

[Big_Dangerous]

You guys have to make your minds up. The USO was the tournament Rafa was never supposed to win, wasn't it?

Nah, it's Miami, Paris Indoors, Shanghai, and the World Tour Finals.

 

[Mainad]

did fed do the cinci double in 2004 and 2006 too? what about 2007? 2008?

2004 Agassi won Cincy, 2006 Roddick (lost to Fed in the USO final), Fed did the double in 2007 (as already mentioned), Murray won Cincy in 2008 (lost to Fed in the USO final).

 

[I Am Finnish]

Possible 2nd round rematch of Bullsheet Russian and The Good Kid!

Tsitsipas wants revenge but Medvedev is still pissed because the greek-russian called him bs russian

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Ridiculous draw for Federer but he didn’t do himself any favors. Not surprised that Djokovic is on his side. I wonder if he will lose before facing him in a potential QFs rmatchup.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Nadal’s draw is a joke as well.

 

[marc45]

Roger & Stan practicing live

https://twitter.com/usopen/status/1033046774645018624

 

[marc45]

1. Kevin Anderson‏Verified account @KAndersonATP 27s27 seconds ago
2. Practice on Arthur Ashe with @RafaelNadal
   
   #usopen
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Will it be better than G1? Of course not, it's not happening in Tokyo. hahaha Everybody is saying Djokovic, everybody is saying Nadal, some are saying Federer and a couple are mentioning a Muzziah guy I've never heard, you know, but I don't know, you know. Plans could change. hahaha I do hope that somebody here can go on an Ibushi style run and shock the world.

 

[junior74]

Casper Ruud is through to the main draw in 6 straight sets

 

[abmk]

Rafa had won every slam at the age of 23.

24.

Nadal was born in June 1986 and won USO in Sept 2010.

 

[Steve0904]

You’ve been all around the globe and done some interesting things by the sound of it.

I’d like to travel the world but two things:
1. It’s dangerous
2. It takes effort

That 2nd reason kills me every time.