US Open draw is out!

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Zverev will lose before semis. BerreMug couldn't do much against Novak even on grass. So I see this as cake walk till final where he will face real challenge (Med/Sisipas).
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Most exciting US Open draw in years
So many unknowns
So many possibilities
And it looks if Novak is to complete historic CYGS, he will have to beat 2 of the best hardcourters in the world, Medvedev and Zverev, both riding high off their masters wins

Has anyone ever won USO without playing any prior north american swing tournaments?
 

Pandaman

Rookie
I still don't agree that Zverev is the man in form and Novak's greatest threat. He just doesn't have the consistency. This is a strong recency bias. People forgot about how Zverev did at AO, F.O and Wimbledon and how he does in slams every year.
Instead everything is based on his Olympics and Cincy performance - where he was shaky as well especially in the latter. vs Titspas in Cincy - Zed could hardly hold a lead and choked repeatedly.

Again, Novak's biggest challenge among the current ATP will always be Medvedev. True Novak is favored against Med heavily, because the Russian lacks weapons. But the world #2 is by far the most consistent and deserving player in the draw right now to face Novak for the championship.

Overall, there is no one at Novak's level in the draw, assuming Novak is NOT injured. If Thiem were playing, I would have NOT said that. Since peak Thiem can give Novak some headache, as can peak Nadal. But both those guys are not playing.
What do you think about Med getting the cakewalk draw (that Djoker should've gotten as #1 imo)? Same thing happened at AO and Novak, with an injury and 3.5 hours more on court time, destroyed him. Can't see that happening again if both get there, though.
 

Pandaman

Rookie
On a fast court, Sam Querrey could be really dangerous. Zverev had better be careful.
Ugh I hope he is NOT careful :) I watched Querrey play in Atlanta and Washington and have no faith in him unless he goes back in a time machine. He can hardly keep a ball in the court after the second shot.
 

socallefty

Legend
There’s a pretty good chance that Djokovic’s QF opponent will be Hubie Hurkacz and that might not be an easy match.
 

Kralingen

Legend
Hurkacz brings his Canada game and he could really cause Djokovic some bother. The “taller Murray” moniker is actually not bad. Prepare for some extended rallies. he’s not going to miss often and is comfortable in a longer rally the way many tall guys aren’t. And if his first serve is firing Djokovic will have trouble with it. Plus - Djokovic has had issues in the past with a big serve and net rush and Hurkacz is actually quite the competent volleyer at net (for today’s game, leave me alone 90s fans). He does it often, enough to get under returners’ skin.

If nothing else he took a set in ‘19 Wimby and that was a far inferior version of Hurkacz today.

However we could also see Hubie who lost to Liam Broady at the Olympics, lol. I also slightly doubt his 5 set match fitness at the moment. Either way - Berrettini is not 100% and Hurkacz has a golden opportunity as a result.
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
What do you think about Med getting the cakewalk draw (that Djoker should've gotten as #1 imo)? Same thing happened at AO and Novak, with an injury and 3.5 hours more on court time, destroyed him. Can't see that happening again if both get there, though.
Cakewalk draw should help Med. But the Russian could get challenged by Titspas. I think Titspas is MORE likely to reach the SF than Zverev. Still, Med should make the final.

I feel that Novak will always be favored vs Medvedev since the #2 does not have the weapons to threaten Novak. The rope a dope game doesn't work over 5 sets. The scoreline might be similar to AO final. I think Novak is now playing better than he was then.
IMO unless Novak is injured - the title is there for the taking along with CYGS.
There is not a single player in the draw, who I feel might be able to beat a non-injured Novak.
As I said before, Nadal or Thiem might have been threats to Novak if they were at their A games, but they are not playing.
 

NADALalot

Hall of Fame
I don't think Djokovic is anywhere near good enough to win this US Open.
In addition to meeting Zverev and Medvedev back-to-back, he's assured of a tough match before that, because unlikely Berrettini and Hurk will both lose early.
This is Zverev's Open anyway in my opinion, and so is the AO most likely.
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
Really? You won't be bothered by Murray losing to Cheatsipas?
Not at all. I like Murray and enjoyed watching his career but he's playing for pride now and isn't a contender at slams or even small events anymore. I don't like seeing him lose to nobodies that in his prime he would destroy so playing and most likely losing to someone like Tsitsipas is the better outcome. I know not everyone agrees with this view but for me, i think he needs to accept its over and go enjoy retirement with his family.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
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Cakewalk draw should help Med. But the Russian could get challenged by Titspas. I think Titspas is MORE likely to reach the SF than Zverev. Still, Med should make the final.

I feel that Novak will always be favored vs Medvedev since the #2 does not have the weapons to threaten Novak. The rope a dope game doesn't work over 5 sets. The scoreline might be similar to AO final. I think Novak is now playing better than he was then.
IMO unless Novak is injured - the title is there for the taking along with CYGS.
There is not a single player in the draw, who I feel might be able to beat a non-injured Novak.
As I said before, Nadal or Thiem might have been threats to Novak if they were at their A games, but they are not playing.
Would Djoker prefer a SF/F against Zverev/Medvedev or Zverev/Tsitsipas? Or he may not really care either way.
:unsure:
 

Rozroz

G.O.A.T.
Not at all. I like Murray and enjoyed watching his career but he's playing for pride now and isn't a contender at slams or even small events anymore. I don't like seeing him lose to nobodies that in his prime he would destroy so playing and most likely losing to someone like Tsitsipas is the better outcome. I know not everyone agrees with this view but for me, i think he needs to accept its over and go enjoy retirement with his family.
if he manages to really change his game to a shorter and aggressive, he might have some chances at smaller events. sticking with his usual game is no good.
 

Cortana

Hall of Fame
USO 2019 will maybe be the last time the Big3 won at the USO. It was the slam of upsets in the past anyway, so it's fitting if USO will be the beginning of the end.
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
imo Djokovic has the hardest draw, with Tsitsipas the second hardest draw, then Zverev, and Medvedev has the easiest draw.

Most years there is usually one player who has a deep run into the quarters or even the semis - we will see who that is this year, if anyone, and which part of the draw this player shakes up!

I am boldly predicting that Medvedev wins the tournament and that Djokovic will not make it to the final. My case against Djokovic: unlike many analysts online I believe that his lack of match play since the Olympics will be a problem for him, also his losses at the Olympics, along with his four other losses this year, will embolden the other players who can defeat him to have less fear playing him, more belief that they can win, and several players are clearly hungry for it - the fact that the 3 other top players have all made it to Grand Slam finals will leave them wanting more and to win. When Djokovic wants to win too much the pressure can cause him to lose - the Olympics is a prime example of it. He also has a 3-5 finals win/loss ratio, and I believe (correct this if I am incorrect about it) he hasn't made it to the final 8 times - this is not one of his two best slams, the Australian and Wimbledon have been better tournaments for him. His arrogance and over-confidence has from time to time done him in. Several players who he has lost to this year are in his half of the draw (Evans is in the other half). He could also lose him temper again. Now of course he could win and I know his fans would be ecstatic about it, but I am making the case for how he could lose. I can acknowledge that he could win, but I think his fans have to be honest and acknowledge he could lose.

I am predicting a Medvedev vs. Zverev final with Medvedev winning the match.
 

Ogi44

Rookie
Djokovic protected from PCB, surprise surprise :rolleyes:
Earliest possible round before draw is made for No.1 seed to meet No.9 seed is QF. Chances are obviously 1 to 7 that that will happen. The PCB being in Djokovic half was 50/50, and you write clueless comment like this after he lands in his half? It only shows your understanding of the sport and nothing else.
 
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weakera

G.O.A.T.
Earliest possible round for No.1 seed to meet No.9 seed is QF. Chances are 1 to 8 obviously. The PCB is in his half which was 50/50 and you write clueless comment like this? It only shows your understanding of the sport and nothing else.
We all know he was *NEVER* going to be in Djokovic's quarter.
 

Ogi44

Rookie
We all know he was *NEVER* going to be in Djokovic's quarter.
If they wanted to protect him from PCB who played TWO semi finals at US Open already, they will put him in Danils half.
So your logic is they rigged the round where the chance anyway was 12,5% they can meet, but didnt bother about the next one, and this is how they "protected" him?That sound very inteligent indeed.
 
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weakera

G.O.A.T.
If they wanted to protect him from PCB who played TWO semi finals at US Open already, they will put him in Danils half.
So your logic is they rigged the round where the chance anyway was 12,5% they can meet, but didnt bother about the next one, and this is how they "protected" him?That sound very inteligent indeed.

Either way, both Zverev and PCB destroyed him back to back. They ensured he'd get one at most as I predicted exactly.
 

Ogi44

Rookie
Either way, both Zverev and PCB destroyed him back to back. They ensured he'd get one at most as I predicted exactly.
Either way, both Zverev and PCB destroyed him back to back. They ensured he'd get one at most as I predicted exactly.
As you predicted? You understand that this is second worst scenario regarding Novak and this two players? He is meeting Zverev at earliest round possible and PCB at second earliest round possible. The worst scenario where he meets PCB in QF and Zverev in semis statistically had few percent probability to happen. You do understand that having both in his half, had much lower probability of happening than having only one? Yes they insured he will meet one of them almost certainly, so Novak was actually very unlucky. Maybe you also predicted that he will not meet Medvedev before the final? On the other hand thank god he dont hava Rafa 2017 draw, or he wil lose before QF.
 

weakera

G.O.A.T.
As you predicted? You understand that this is second worst scenario regarding Novak and this two players? He is meeting Zverev at earliest round possible and PCB at second earliest round possible. The worst scenario where he meets PCB in QF and Zverev in semis statistically had few percent probability to happen. You do understand that having both in his half, had much lower probability of happening than having only one? Yes they insured he will meet one of them almost certainly, so Novak was actually very unlucky. Maybe you also predicted that he will not meet Medvedev before the final? On the other hand thank god he dont hava Rafa 2017 draw, or he wil lose before QF.
Yes, thanks for talking yourself breathless repeating that my prediction came to pass exactly.

And it's ENSURED, not insured :laughing:
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
Would Djoker prefer a SF/F against Zverev/Medvedev or Zverev/Tsitsipas? Or he may not really care either way.
:unsure:
I would think Novak would prefer Zedzilla over Titspas.
Zed is one of the BIGGEST MENTAL MIDGETS on tour and he CANNOT EVER beat a healthy Novak in best of 5 sets. And Novak knows this, as Zed will start to DF and choke under pressure.

Titspas however has a OHBH which troubles Novak. He could also get hot and put Novak in trouble. I mean look at F.O when Titspas lead to by 2 sets to Zero.
Of course Titsp won't beat Novak. But he could present a BIGGER CHALLENGE than Zedzila ever will.

In short: Novak got exactly the draw he wanted. I'm willing to bet Zedzilla won't even make the SF. And Novak will sleepwalks to the final without losing more than 1 set (perhaps zero).
 

DjokoLand

Hall of Fame
I would think Novak would prefer Zedzilla over Titspas.
Zed is one of the BIGGEST MENTAL MIDGETS on tour and he CANNOT EVER beat a healthy Novak in best of 5 sets. And Novak knows this, as Zed will start to DF and choke under pressure.

Titspas however has a OHBH which troubles Novak. He could also get hot and put Novak in trouble. I mean look at F.O when Titspas lead to by 2 sets to Zero.
Of course Titsp won't beat Novak. But he could present a BIGGER CHALLENGE than Zedzila ever will.

In short: Novak got exactly the draw he wanted. I'm willing to bet Zedzilla won't even make the SF. And Novak will sleepwalks to the final without losing more than 1 set (perhaps zero).
While Zverev in slams can be so unpredictable early rounds with some 5 setters and his record against top 10 in slams is poor I still see him as a bigger treat than Tsitsipas. Actually I’m in the boat that only Med/Zed beat Djokovic here
 
Tsitsipas has a really hard draw - lots of upset potential in early rounds and Rublev is the hardest possible quarter right now. I think Rublev actually makes it to semis over Stefanos

Djokovic also has a tough draw with Z in his semis and some solid players before.

Medvedev should cruise to the finals. I mean Ruud is his quarter what a free ride lmao
 

Ogi44

Rookie
Yes, thanks for talking yourself breathless repeating that my prediction came to pass exactly.

And it's ENSURED, not insured :laughing:
I am not talking to myself. I am just trying to show how people like you deliberately try to create fake impression that something is true when it is not. Your agenda is clear. You are not a fan of the sport which is being excited that history can be made in New York, but you are the blind worshiper of Nadal which cant stand a fact that his idol will finish second best. I know exactly what you are trying to do, and I just want to point out your disingenuinity, as I am sick of it on this forum. And my advise is start to cope with the fact that Djokovic will end his career as greatest player of all time, and your insinuations will not change it one bit. But if this helps you sleep at night a little bit better I am happy for you.
 
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Ogi44

Rookie
While Zverev in slams can be so unpredictable early rounds with some 5 setters and his record against top 10 in slams is poor I still see him as a bigger treat than Tsitsipas. Actually I’m in the boat that only Med/Zed beat Djokovic here
Nobody will beat Djokovic this year. He is the man on the mission and he will lift the trophy on the end. Of course all the haters will come afterwards to explain you why it was nothing special and Rafa and Roger are still much greater than Novak. But the wolf never cares what the sheeps think of him.
 
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