US Open ignores Olympic mixed doubles champions

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Why aren't Tomáš Machac and Kateřina Siniakova, who won the mixed doubles at the Paris Olympics last year, on the list of couples who should participate in the new format of the US Open? Is this because the organizers are afraid that Siniakova is so good in doubles that she could beat top singles pairs with any partner? Discuss or be disgusted.

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A shame to see they are coupling the pairs based on race (sans Venus who already had her WC). But that's NY for ya!
 
Shock horror, the United States are trying to change and ruin something.
Do you not think that this is going to be an improvement monetarily, engagement, and ratings wise over last year?

Seems to me they’ve only brought attention and excitement to something only a very minute percentage of the tennis fandom care about.
 
A shame to see they are coupling the pairs based on race (sans Venus who already had her WC). But that's NY for ya!
not sure about ben and taylor townsend, but Keys and Tiafoe are very close friends. Probably had something to with it if I was to take a guess.
 
I got the impression the teams entered together into a pool and then the combined top singles ratings got in first. I assume some of that was engineered but it is not like they all just volunteered to play and the US Open paired them together.
 
A) They are clearly doing the matchups based on race (outside of Venus who already had a wildcard with bff Opelka)
2) The US Open didn't ignore the Olypimcs, they just forgot that the Olympics exist because no one cares about it.
D) First Bud Light then Jaguar and now US Open - go woke, you go broke.
 
A) They are clearly doing the matchups based on race (outside of Venus who already had a wildcard with bff Opelka)
don’t really think they are. they had qinwen with draper (originally), they have alcaraz with raducanu, pegula with tommy paul, venus with opelka. you can’t help it that tennis is a predominantly white sport at the top.
 
Do you not think that this is going to be an improvement monetarily, engagement, and ratings wise over last year?

Seems to me they’ve only brought attention and excitement to something only a very minute percentage of the tennis fandom care about.
This clearly is a money grabber rather than an attempt for the best possible tennis. The local powers and their sponsors aren't supposed to make decisions about who competes; the professional tennis org is responsible for all its registered tennis players. Me think the WTA, ATP and their ITF HQ have either been taken advantage of or ganged up with the American organizers. Seems to me the USO has confused professional tennis for Hollywood cinematography.
 
This clearly is a money grabber rather than an attempt for the best possible tennis. The local powers and their sponsors aren't supposed to make decisions about who competes; the professional tennis org is responsible for all its registered tennis players. Me think the WTA, ATP and their ITF HQ have either been taken advantage of or ganged up with the American organizers. Seems to me the USO has confused professional tennis for Hollywood cinematography.
not what i asked
 
The mixed doubles event is not a mixed doubles event. It's based on the stars of the singles competition. This means no mixed doubles champions.

It's a reworking of the Hopman Cup.
mixed doubles isn’t ranked any. quite simply this is the only time i’ve heard about people caring about mixed doubles in my entire time as a tennis fanatic.
 
mixed doubles isn’t ranked any. quite simply this is the only time i’ve heard about people caring about mixed doubles in my entire time as a tennis fanatic.
You may be right but you may also be ignoring the accomplishments of mixed-doublers. Perhaps your fascination over tennis isn't so deep as to how well some players play but who plays.
 
You may be right but you may also be ignoring the accomplishments of mixed-doublers. Perhaps your fascination over tennis isn't so deep as to how well some players play but who plays.
You’re 100% right. I literally give zero sh*ts about mixed doubles. Likewise, almost every other person doesn’t either.
 
You’re 100% right. I literally give zero sh*ts about mixed doubles. Likewise, almost every other person doesn’t either.
I thank you for the respect you have given me here but I can't accept your view that "every other person" may be just like you. The marketing of doubles and mixed doubles may be flawed. All the attention to the singles players, in my humble opinion, may draw away the interest in doubles/mixed doubles. Then, there are the ticket prices. Can you imagine how many more people would have come to see the mixed doubles in previous tournaments, had the entry to those courts eased up? Can you imagine how many more people would have known about some great mixed doublers, had the news not overly focused on Roger/Rafa/Novak or now Jannik/Carlos? Me think we would have a more complete professional tennis today than we do. In the Hollywood Open coming to our theaters in Flushing Meadows soon, we are to have a partial professional competition with great exhibition.
 
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I thank you for the respect you have given me here but I can't accept your view that "every other person" may be just like you. The marketing of doubles and mixed doubles may be flawed. All the attention to the singles players, in my humble opinion, may draw away the interest in doubles/mixed doubles. Then, there are the ticket prices. Can you imagine how many more people would have come to see the mixed doubles in previous tournaments, had the entry to those courts eased up? Can you imagine how many more people would have known about some great mixed doublers, had the news not overly focused on Roger/Rafa/Novak or now Jannik/Carlos? Me think we would have a more complete professional tennis today than we do.
You’re right, i’m using hyperbole. Why don’t we do something like compare mixed doubles viewing numbers to men’s and women’s singles.
 
You’re right, i’m using hyperbole. Why don’t we do something like compare mixed doubles viewing numbers to men’s and women’s singles.
Yeah, that's my point too. We may never get such high numbers of viewers in mixed doubles as in men's singles but we may improve the people's attention more professionally than what USO has just done arrogantly. This format is an insult to professional tennis and viewership. I'd go as far as to suggest that this is a racketeering scheme
 
Do you not think that this is going to be an improvement monetarily, engagement, and ratings wise over last year?

Seems to me they’ve only brought attention and excitement to something only a very minute percentage of the tennis fandom care about.

No. It's terrible and a disgrace. Few of these pairings are real doubles teams and fans will not be seeing the best mixed doubles that could be played. The U.S. Open Mixed Doubles has been reduced to a pre-tournament promotional event. Boycott this event.
 
I thank you for the respect you have given me here but I can't accept your view that "every other person" may be just like you. The marketing of doubles and mixed doubles may be flawed. All the attention to the singles players, in my humble opinion, may draw away the interest in doubles/mixed doubles.
Mixed doubles must have been the victim of "flawed marketing" throughout the entire Open Era (57 years now), since the event has never, ever, drawn a significant fraction of the attention from the public or the media paid to either men's singles or women's singles. Even during the fabled Tennis Boom of the 1970s, no one cared about mixed doubles (except as a social event for club amateurs!). The intersections of the men's and women's games were more focused on, "Can Billie Jean beat Bobby?" and "Will Chrissie marry Jimmy?" At least men's and women's doubles have had recognizably great permanent teams that people still remember.

Here's a trivial though perhaps revealing tidbit: John McEnroe won the 1977 French Open mixed doubles title (with Mary Carillo!). As we all know, that was his only title at Roland Garros. Anyone familiar with Mac's long career as a tennis commentator will be aware that he frequently brings up his come-from-ahead loss to Lendl at the 1984 FO, and is quite frank about how it still pains him. I've heard these sorrowful reminiscences many times. But does he ever say, "Hey, at least I won the mixed there, so that's something!" No, at least not in what I have heard. Never.
 
Nothing against Siniakova, they probably just didn’t want to watch Machac constantly f-ing with his shorts. Worst habit! I’m glad Rune has stopped.
 
Why aren't Tomáš Machac and Kateřina Siniakova, who won the mixed doubles at the Paris Olympics last year, on the list of couples who should participate in the new format of the US Open? Is this because the organizers are afraid that Siniakova is so good in doubles that she could beat top singles pairs with any partner? Discuss or be disgusted.

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Wow Madison and tiafoe didn't make the direct entry. Surprising.
How the ranking score was for these candidates
 
Tennis is heading to oblivion and this is the first tangible sign. Doubles has always been a separate and a very different sport to singles, now US Open is turning doubles into an exhibition to show off singles players, what the hell is going on?

As soon as it gets to switching slams to BO3 that'll be it. And it's coming sooner rather than later
 
I will reserve judgement until we see the ratings and excitement around it. More eyes on tennis during the fan week of a slam might bring more overall interest to mixed doubles. You definitely took the most popular players in the world of tennis and convinced them to play. As for the level of play, if that is truly an issue here then Errani and Vavassori will easily win proving it. The biggest detriment is that it takes away the opportunity from other players that might be getting their bank roll to continue on the tour for another year from the US Open and gives it to players who don't need the funding.
 
Taylor Townsend made the semi w Shelton in 23 and the final last year w Donald young. I watched Shelton spray returns 2 years ago, while she kept them in return games w her steady play.

She can carry him to a title this year. They're going to be the team to beat this year, as his game has improved, and she is now the #1 female dubs player for good reason.

Siniakova wants to play w Arevalo (men's #1), but I'd be surprised if they get in. She and Machac are done.

Hsieh/zielinski are another dangerous team, but they won't get in.
 
don’t really think they are. they had qinwen with draper (originally), they have alcaraz with raducanu, pegula with tommy paul, venus with opelka. you can’t help it that tennis is a predominantly white sport at the top.
All I have to do is look athe graphic to quickly see how they've segmented the teams.
 
All I have to do is look athe graphic to quickly see how they've segmented the teams.
There are only two teams of same race non white people in the entire graphic. And one of the team's likely submitted to play together of their own volition as they are close friends in real life. So I'm not really sure what your eyes are telling you.
 
There are only two teams of same race non white people in the entire graphic. And one of the team's likely submitted to play together of their own volition as they are close friends in real life. So I'm not really sure what your eyes are telling you.
My eyes are seeing blacks paired with blacks paying against whites paired with whites. Don't look at me, I didn't make the draw. I just can't ignore the bigotry of the US Open.
 
My eyes are seeing blacks paired with blacks paying against whites paired with whites. Don't look at me, I didn't make the draw. I just can't ignore the bigotry of the US Open.
I’m about as left leaning as they come, but man, you sure are reaching. We have maybe one black team who didn’t choose to be together, and we don’t even know that they didn’t. Also Badosa and Draper are another mixed race group as google would lead me to believe Badosa is hispanic. your case just doesn’t really hold up.
 
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Here's the order of prestige in tennis and you can see where Mixed doubles falls. Perhaps the new woke showrunner at the US Open should take note:

  1. Mens singles
  2. Womens singles
  3. Mens doubles
  4. Womens doubles
  5. Handicap
  6. Juniors
  7. That old guy that wears a mic and does trick shots
  8. Ex players that wear mics and hit lob after lob after lob doubles
  9. Replays of Mens singles
  10. Rain delays
  11. Palestinian flag protestor
  12. Mixed doubles
 
A) They are clearly doing the matchups based on race (outside of Venus who already had a wildcard with bff Opelka)
2) The US Open didn't ignore the Olypimcs, they just forgot that the Olympics exist because no one cares about it.
D) First Bud Light then Jaguar and now US Open - go woke, you go broke.
This is pretty much the dumbest post I've read lately. Do you think the players have any say in who they are paired with ? Pretty sure they do and they will choose someone who they like and who they want to play with, as you suggested with Venus and Opelka being friends. If you're Taylor Townsend and one of the best female doubles players in the world are you going to ask them to put you with someone like Jenson Brooksby as your partner ? No, you want a big serve and a great doubles player like Ben. Also, is no way is the US Open "going broke" they are making more money that ever.
 
This is pretty much the dumbest post I've read lately. Do you think the players have any say in who they are paired with ? Pretty sure they do and they will choose someone who they like and who they want to play with, as you suggested with Venus and Opelka being friends. If you're Taylor Townsend and one of the best female doubles players in the world are you going to ask them to put you with someone like Jenson Brooksby as your partner ? No, you want a big serve and a great doubles player like Ben. Also, is no way is the US Open "going broke" they are making more money that ever.
I'm not blaming the players I'm blaming the new old timers at the US Open.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, what have you got against Jenson Brooksby?
 
Yet Brooksby has beaten Opelka and unlike Shelton, has a title this year.
We're talking about who the better doubles partner would be right ? If you want to compare accomplishments though, feel free to include ranking and performances at slams, etc.
 
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