USO’22 QF: #3 C Alcaraz (ESP) vs #11 J Sinner (ITA)
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PSNELKE
Legend
Sinner won't make it to the finals often enough
Lleytonstation
Bionic Poster
Tiafoe will crush him.
I think it is now.Could this become an iconic image one day?
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Don't know man but today's match was of very high quality with terrific hitting by both players. Big Foe will have chances though.
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Slicehand
Guest
It was one of the most epic matches i can remember, alcaraz energy at the end of the 5th was just unreal, too much for sinner, the chance he got to close the match, was just surreal level after 5 hours, big 3 level of clutchness to close the match
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Slicehand
Guest
Now we can learn to have a little belief in talent
zvelf
Hall of Fame
What is with all the hate? You put a huge bet on Sinner? Sinner didn't win this match, but he gave everything he had, and as a result, he mostly played even with and weathered an onslaught against a level of talent and athleticism currently unmatched on the tour.
duaneeo
G.O.A.T.
I thought he should've won in straight sets. I still had some belief that he could win, but not much.
PSNELKE
Legend
What up with all the betting references? No I don't bet, it's just strange to see people act like this match was on Alcaraz racquet when it was clearly not. Alcaraz played his absolute best while Sinner was a chicken whenever it mattered and his serve disappeared every time during crunch time
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Slicehand
Guest
Really?, tell me why should he have won in strights? Its always the same, alcaraz plays an epic match and people are like, he should have won easier, man first full season on tour, doesnt get free points on serve, to say he should be winning easily against everybody really shows hoch much you know
I too thought Alcaraz should have won in 3, without TBs. Was tired and decided to go to bed with Alcaraz down 0-2 in 4th.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
If sinner just had a damn great first and second serve he would hardly lose matches. He can win points much easier than Carlos. But you do yourself a disservice with garbage serving. You’re just letting your opponent off the hook. I would have already placed a call to Pete if I was him. There’s no excuse for a guy 6’3 of 4 to be serving such rubbishly
sinner should be the dominant guy. He doesn’t
have to run a Tour de France to win matches
sinner should be the dominant guy. He doesn’t
have to run a Tour de France to win matches
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Many congratulations to you man! It's fans like you, who keep the faith, and got young Carlos over the finish line.
Such an intense match. I was so stressed out in the 4th before I had to sleep. Can't imagine what you went through.
But he pulled it off - so it's all worth it. Hopefully he can recover now.
As he matures, if Alcaraz can serve better and play percentages a little bit more, he will be unbeatable.
Alcaraz had an easy shot to win set #2 and screwed that one up before the TB. He also could have won set #3 prior to TB. Sinner played well. Now I know why Cahill ditched Anisomov, Sinner was down the pike To coach. I presume Cahill and Sinner partnership will come to fruition down the road like Cahill and Halep.
duaneeo
G.O.A.T.
I see someone is looking for an argument. It won't happen here.
MiamiWeekendWarrior
Hall of Fame
The question now is whether Alcaraz will be able to recover by Friday.
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Slicehand
Guest
Anyone could have won, but it was always apparent that sinner had it easier, getting a lot of points on serve, returning very good all the time, but carlos brought up that magic in the most important moments to stay in there, if i had to chose one magic trick from him, was how he closed the match, didnt hesitate a bit, unreal from a boy his age after 5 hours, sinner is very talented and i hope this lose doesnt take a lot of confidence from him, because i felt that was the best level i saw sinner play for a sustained period of time, and still he fell short, but playing like this, he would have beaten practically anyone, the tennis level for the whole 5 hours was amazing, the consistent pace of ball the highest ive seen this season, and for me, the best match of the season without a doubt
Silentchimera
Semi-Pro
How do you think these guys would have faired against Djokovic had he played?
BenC
Hall of Fame
kid is 19 and built like a brick sh*thouse ... I'll be surprised if he isn't 120% vs Foe
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Slicehand
Guest
Both had set points and both had natch points, that miss at set point in the second was very important, but still, thats tennis, you cant do always perfect everytime, the level was very high and errors can come, dont forget this is his first season on tour, just not realistic to win every match on straights
Silentchimera
Semi-Pro
Sinner was playing crazy good. No shame in going to 5 sets with him at all. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
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Slicehand
Guest
That sir is a truthful statement, magic match, high level for the whole match, a gift to tennis fans
I think Djokovic’s serve/return and calm clutchness would allow him to win sets even when being outplayed from the baseline. Hard to call as they played with higher intensity and speed than he is capable of sustaining these days, but he would eat their serves for lunch and you can never count a guy like Novak out on a HC.
i do think both will beat Djokovic at Slams very soon though. His time is nearly up.
Talk about a prophecy going right!!!
MiamiWeekendWarrior
Hall of Fame
Muscularity isn't always a benefit in a sport like tennis. It takes a lot of fuel to maintain. Compare sprinters to long distance runners as an example. There's a reason sprinters don't make good long distance runners. Not saying he won't be back to 100% but the length and time of this match could have an effect.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
During the AO final this year, I went to bed with Nadal down 2 sets. It was so late already and I figured "no way." Then I woke up to the headlines.
sportsfan1
Legend
Sinner looked the better player in the 2nd and 3rd sets (didn't watch afterwards thinking it's done, maybe sinner even served for the match in the 4th). He had better 1st serves getting him easy points, his ground strokes were very fast at times, and he was making Carlos run around a lot. He was looking the likely winner by far.
Not sure what happened in the 4th & 5th -how sinner lost or how Carlos won. Maybe it came down to stamina and sinners level dipped.
We already saw what'd have happened if sinner played Djokovic - at Wimbledon. Somewhat similar with nadal-med who's great at covering the court. It's difficult to beat the big 2 without sustaining a very high level for the duration of the match. While the younger players may have better athleticism, the big 2 are able to surpass that with their consistency, skills and experience. Djokovic in addition serves really well. The sinner second serve and periodic dips in form within a match would be too big of a liability.
Seemingly the result of this match should have been the opposite of the actual one. If sinner and Carlos were to sustain their best levels through the match, it'd appear sinner would win, it's on his racquet.
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Wow...I went to bed last night with Sinner up 2-0 in the fourth and was 99% sure he'd win. Now I see the result and am stunned.
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Slicehand
Guest
Not really, carlos found solutions and played better shots, basically, sinner moving alcaraz was basically because he had the advantage of the first shot, either at serve or at return
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Slicehand
Guest
In the second carlos had 5 set points also, in the 3rd he was playing sinner too much from the baseline, and sinner was serving and returning better, thats why he had the upper hand in the rallies, when the ball was neutral, it was totally even
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Just like with Rafa it's best to never ever count Carlos out!!!! Carlos has only lost one match all year where he lost the first set. He is now at 49-9! I really hope he wins this tournament, he deserves it!
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Looking at that, it's clear Alcaraz was the better player. He made things harder for himself but I guess that made for a dramatic ending.
This match has produced more quality Tennis than anything Djokodal have produced this year. Quality of Tennis went up thanks to youngsters. We have not seen this since more than a decade.
58/38 W/E ratio. Very efficient for offensive game. Sinner made more errors than winners OTOH..
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Man - don't you live on PST time? I'm on EST and I still stayed up almost till 1:45 AM.
Had to sleep only because I had a early AM work meeting.
Such kind of matches are NOT to be missed. I too slept with Sinner leading 5-3 in the 4th and assuming the match was over.
Checked the score in the morning and was SHOCKED. Happily surprised.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Please watch the entire match. It's really good.
Also where will you download this - if you don't mind me asking? I would like to do the same because of the quality of tennis and keep it for future viewings.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Yea I will. If not this week, I'll watch the last 2 sets this weekend. Just pm me. They're torrent sites.
Mark-Touch
G.O.A.T.
What time was the match over Eastern time?
Really good match overall with regards to point play. Felt bad for Sinner after he had the match point and lost that game and then the match. Some of the shots they were hitting would have been winners in 90% of the matches this year but they just kept slugging back and forth. Certainly highest quality of the tournament.
Serving is a liability for both. If Sinner has a higher 1st serve percentage and less doubles he wouldn't have had to dig out of so many holes. Alcaraz doesn't have a great serve and Sinner was able to hit a lot of deep returns but mostly hit them right in the middle. Someone like Djokovic (maybe not current 35yo Djokovic) would have done more with those and put him in a worse position. Alcaraz' athleticism and shotmaking bails him out of a lot of situations though.
Serving is a liability for both. If Sinner has a higher 1st serve percentage and less doubles he wouldn't have had to dig out of so many holes. Alcaraz doesn't have a great serve and Sinner was able to hit a lot of deep returns but mostly hit them right in the middle. Someone like Djokovic (maybe not current 35yo Djokovic) would have done more with those and put him in a worse position. Alcaraz' athleticism and shotmaking bails him out of a lot of situations though.
It's hard to say with photos like that, they have to be at the same distance to the lens and stay straight. Not sure about 183, but 180-181 is not impossible.
Sinner also served for the 2nd set though. If they both didn’r serve wta esque alcaraz would have won sets 1, 3 and sinner 2 , 4.
dking68
G.O.A.T.
He should’ve won this.
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