USO 2025 announces Mixed Doubles pairings featuring most of top 10 men/women

ND-13 said:
The attraction for the qualies used to be the free entrance. I am sure USTA is going to ticket the event. It is reasonable given the star power.
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Qualies are free (after transportation, parking if you drive, food and souvenirs). This mixed event is a ticketed event in Ashe.
ND-13 said:
But this is not to revive doubles, a good shrewd move by USTA to make more money.

The cost of tickets keep skyrocketing and unaffordable making it an elite sport. USTA makes good money from the corporate suites and the boxes but they don't want to leave any stone unturned even with the bleachers.
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RSJfan said:
Qualies are free (after transportation, parking if you drive, food and souvenirs). This mixed event is a ticketed event in Ashe.


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The costs this year were absolutely outrageous. I luckily got in on the presale and got the originally priced tickets, but even those have doubled in price from just 2022. It’s insane price gouging, no excuse for this. It’s not inflation, it’s industrial strength greed.
 
Yall acting like anyone gave a **** about mixed doubles. NO ONE WATCHED IT. If people cared they wouldn't do this.

This is 100% more interesting. I'm excited to watch some of this. If I weren't already on vacation during that time I would be interested in grabbing a cheap courtside seat.

Yall also acting like this still isn't merit based. They are objectively the best tennis players in the world. If Casper Ruud and iga swiatek tried to play doubles for a year. They would be world #1. Same for a lot of the others. They just have better things to do. Like playing tennis matches people actually watch.
 
Moose Malloy said:
so do you think a 2 day event warrants crowning a Grand Slam champion? They did a dry run for this last year, it got great crowds etc, but it was just called an exo. I'm not sure this adds any more excitement vs last year, someone like Carlos will just be giggling throughout it like an exo(and they are allowing a retired player like Kyrgios play - why stop there? let Agassi or Mac play). I guess this will be Zverev/Fritz/Tiafoe's best chance to have a grand slam title to their name.

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No, it doesn't feel like a a "real" Grand Slam, especially with the abbreviated scoring. Is it going down in the record books as an actual Slam? I guess it will since there's no regular mixed tourney now that this is in its place. Some dubs fans and players will debate the merits of the title endlessly, but most people probably won't pay it much mind since mixed is such a niche thing.
 
Grizzy said:
Yall acting like anyone gave a **** about mixed doubles. NO ONE WATCHED IT. If people cared they wouldn't do this.

This is 100% more interesting. I'm excited to watch some of this. If I weren't already on vacation during that time I would be interested in grabbing a cheap courtside seat.

Yall also acting like this still isn't merit based. They are objectively the best tennis players in the world. If Casper Ruud and iga swiatek tried to play doubles for a year. They would be world #1. Same for a lot of the others. They just have better things to do. Like playing tennis matches people actually watch.
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I think posters understand mixed isn’t very popular.

It’s currently $262 + TM fees (standard ticket not resale) to sit courtside for semis and finals, which is for courtside general admission. Should be fun paying that and having to deal with general admission. Is this something you would be interested in for a mixed doubles Exo taking place during a major?
 
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I hate the abbreviated scoring system being used where sets go only to four games. Is this a first to have that in a Slam for matches that count? I feel we are down the slippery road where someday this will become normal tennis scoring at all tournaments trying to appeal to fans with shorter and shorter attention spans.
 
socallefty said:
I hate the abbreviated scoring system being used where sets go only to four games. Is this a first to have that in a Slam for matches that count? I feel we are down the slippery road where someday this will become normal tennis scoring at all tournaments trying to appeal to fans with shorter and shorter attention spans.
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Fonseca will dominate.
 
Grizzy said:
Yall acting like anyone gave a **** about mixed doubles. NO ONE WATCHED IT. If people cared they wouldn't do this.

This is 100% more interesting. I'm excited to watch some of this. If I weren't already on vacation during that time I would be interested in grabbing a cheap courtside seat.

Yall also acting like this still isn't merit based. They are objectively the best tennis players in the world. If Casper Ruud and iga swiatek tried to play doubles for a year. They would be world #1. Same for a lot of the others. They just have better things to do. Like playing tennis matches people actually watch.
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+1!
 
big ted said:
What are the mixed doubles specialists gonna do when they can’t make a living anymore?
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There is no such thing like a "mixed doubles" specialist. Players who play mixed doubles cannot make it on the tour but somehow think they should be able to make a living out of tennis and therefore play mixed doubles or doubles.
 
Clay lover said:
People have always complained about the visibility of doubles and a lot have reservations about the skill level and claim that "singles players would've dominated but they just don't have time"
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Well tbf. Stich and Becker who hated each other to the guts got together and without much practice won OG in doubles 92. Fed and Stan did the same and even beat the Bryan brothers. Heck even Kyrgios and Kokk could win a doubles slam. As soon as even decent tennis players focus on it they can very well dominate doubles.
 
Rattie said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1934946463953342779

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The entry list for the 2025 US Open Mixed Doubles Championship includes the following teams (listed by combined singles ranking):

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The participation is surely going to be the draw for audiences leading to increased profits but is it going to help the tennis players who usually play the mixed doubles? Me think, this'll create a larger gap in between the top players and the rest of the professional tennis players in ATP and WTA. The hungry will be hungrier while the "fat cats" will get fatter.
 
AM75 said:
This is the worst thing that could happen to pro double players. If WTA and ATP really represent interests of players they need to protest that. But of course neither of them would do it.
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AM75 said:
USTA basically tells doubles players they are sh*t, takes their prize money away and redistributes it amongst top 10 players.
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big ted said:
What are the mixed doubles specialists gonna do when they can’t make a living anymore?
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Moose Malloy said:
Its only a 16 team field(being played over 2 nights). All 16 teams are listed in the OP. Only 3 dubs players listed - Townsend, Errani, Vavassori. And they are paying more(1 million as in contrast to the 200k that the normal mixed event plays, so yeah the dubs players are getting screwed. No Siniakova, Hsieh, Ram etc.

But it is rather early, who knows who will drop out cause they have a niggling injury etc.
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PTPA will be on the case, I expect. :cool:
 
Just a question for discussion - have you guys ever watched mix doubles in the past? Was it something that you were really excited about? Not creating any drama, just honestly asking...because I haven´t. And now I will because it sounds interesting with the top names participating. I think it´s a great move.
 
Grizzy said:
Yall acting like anyone gave a **** about mixed doubles. NO ONE WATCHED IT. If people cared they wouldn't do this.

This is 100% more interesting. I'm excited to watch some of this. If I weren't already on vacation during that time I would be interested in grabbing a cheap courtside seat.

Yall also acting like this still isn't merit based. They are objectively the best tennis players in the world. If Casper Ruud and iga swiatek tried to play doubles for a year. They would be world #1. Same for a lot of the others. They just have better things to do. Like playing tennis matches people actually watch.
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Swiatek can’t volley, so she will never be a good doubles player.
 
Rovesciarete said:

The 2025 Australian Open Seeds, spot the difference....​

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  1. Italy Sara Errani / Italy Andrea Vavassori (second round)
  2. New Zealand Erin Routliffe / New Zealand Michael Venus (semifinals)
  3. Australia Ellen Perez / Germany Kevin Krawietz (quarterfinals)
  4. United States Taylor Townsend / Monaco Hugo Nys (second round, withdrew)
  5. United States Desirae Krawczyk / United Kingdom Neal Skupski (first round)
  6. Chinese Taipei Hsieh Su-wei / Poland Jan Zieliński (second round)
  7. Netherlands Demi Schuurs / Germany Tim Pütz (second round)
  8. United States Asia Muhammad / Argentina Andrés Molteni (quarterfinals)

Taking away opportunities and money from the poor to give it to the rich. Sign of the times.
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So instead of calling it Robin Hood we call it Hood Robin?
 
FlyingSaucer said:
PTPA will be on the case, I expect. :cool:
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What we know from PTPA so far fits this US bill perfectly. The best single players can use a sort of exhibition to get used to court and conditions, and are compensated handsomely for their privilege.

Lower ranked players and double specialists get screwed twice. Obviously in our free market they are free to play exhibitions of their own during that time....
 
No love for the players that focus on doubles, that typically rely on the mixed doubles as well for additional income.
 
Berrettini_Fan said:
What has been reimagined for this mixed doubles championship?
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It has been moved to Fan's week, before the main draw starts.

It was a move designed to attract top players who don't like to play mixed doubles during the main draw.

This is one more nail in the coffin of doubles specialists.
 
sureshs said:
Yes, but it never carried points.
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But a mixed slam title means something. It counts.

This year, the USTA is trying to tell us that the winner of the invitational exho (not an “open” tourney, with most top doubles players excluded) deserves a slam title.

I am thinking of starting a petition to ensure that this year’s US Open mixed title doesn’t count in the official historical records. The record should say that the open mixed tourney was not held. An exho was held instead.
 
travlerajm said:
But a mixed slam title means something. It counts.

This year, the USTA is trying to tell us that the winner of the invitational exho (not an “open” tourney, with most top doubles players excluded) deserves a slam title.

I am thinking of starting a petition to ensure that this year’s US Open mixed title doesn’t count in the official historical records. The record should say that the open mixed tourney was not held. An exho was held instead.
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With all respect....nobody really cares for a mixed double slam title...
 
As some administrator said recently after Rohan Bopanna spoke up about doubles: Bopanna was a fantastic doubles player, but I want him to be the last.

Basically, they are trying to discourage players from becoming doubles specialists.
 
travlerajm said:
But a mixed slam title means something. It counts.

This year, the USTA is trying to tell us that the winner of the invitational exho (not an “open” tourney, with most top doubles players excluded) deserves a slam title.

I am thinking of starting a petition to ensure that this year’s US Open mixed title doesn’t count in the official historical records. The record should say that the open mixed tourney was not held. An exho was held instead.
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Start a thread here with a poll and then forward the results to the USTA and the ITF.
 
sureshs said:
As some administrator said recently after Rohan Bopanna spoke up about doubles: Bopanna was a fantastic doubles player, but I want him to be the last.

Basically, they are trying to discourage players from becoming doubles specialists.
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This is, in my opinion, very sad.

Today’s pro doubles game at the highest level is quite different strategically than it was even 15 years ago. The default serve configuration is I-formation, which often makes the points more interesting and more “3D” than doubles of the past.

The USTA should redirect these misplaced efforts to promote the game of doubles rather than trying to replace it by marketing singles players as doubles players.
 
travlerajm said:
This is, in my opinion, very sad.

Today’s pro doubles game at the highest level is quite different strategically than it was even 15 years ago. The default serve configuration is I-formation, which often makes the points more interesting and more “3D” than doubles of the past.

The USTA should redirect these misplaced efforts to promote the game of doubles rather than trying to replace it by marketing singles players as doubles players.
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Former doubles world number one Paul McNamee said the changes would devalue the US Open mixed doubles title to the status of an exhibition event, and this year's tournament "will not produce a bona fide mixed doubles winner".
 
Konik_1982 said:
Just a question for discussion - have you guys ever watched mix doubles in the past? Was it something that you were really excited about? Not creating any drama, just honestly asking...because I haven´t. And now I will because it sounds interesting with the top names participating. I think it´s a great move.
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I always watch it when I have a chance. This year's mixed doubles French open final was very good.
 
roysid said:
Their leader and his followers are also in this list played mixed
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Rovesciarete said:
What we know from PTPA so far fits this US bill perfectly. The best single players can use a sort of exhibition to get used to court and conditions, and are compensated handsomely for their privilege.

Lower ranked players and double specialists get screwed twice. Obviously in our free market they are free to play exhibitions of their own during that time....
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Maybe the regular mixed dubs will get some free suitcases or summink as consolation?
 
Any match with sets that end at 4 games is an exhibition for me and I won’t watch it just like with the NextGen finals. I’ve tried watching it to see the young stars, but the scoring system always makes me feel like I’m not watching real tennis. Then again I don’t watch mixed doubles (or qualifying week) and so the USTA is likely not going to care about my opinion.

I wonder if in the near future, we will have short-format tournaments in between regular-scoring tournaments with less of the latter for tennis singles also. Just like one-day cricket and then 20/20 formats have made Test Cricket less important on the cricket calendar. More than the regular doubles specialists not being invited, I’m surprised there is not more controversy about a Slam using this abbreviated scoring system for a regular Slam title. I guess the tennis traditionalists are less and less in numbers even in the media.
 
Konik_1982 said:
Just a question for discussion - have you guys ever watched mix doubles in the past? Was it something that you were really excited about? Not creating any drama, just honestly asking...because I haven´t. And now I will because it sounds interesting with the top names participating. I think it´s a great move.
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Same question can be asked about Junior Slams and wheelchair Slams.
 
I like watching mixed doubles. I play mixed doubles. But this is not the way to promote it. This format would be great for Master 1000 events, but not at slams.
 
Konik_1982 said:
Just a question for discussion - have you guys ever watched mix doubles in the past? Was it something that you were really excited about? Not creating any drama, just honestly asking...because I haven´t. And now I will because it sounds interesting with the top names participating. I think it´s a great move.
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Speaking as an avid tennis fan for over 40 years - doubles, let alone mixed doubles, was rarely shown on TV in the pre streaming world, except for Davis Cup and maybe the occasional GS final(esp if Mac or the Williams sisters were involved). But since streaming now shows all matches, yeah I kinda do have a mild interest in mixed. Especially at the Olympics, it definitely felt legit watching players compete for a gold in mixed.

Grizzy said:
Yall acting like anyone gave a **** about mixed doubles. NO ONE WATCHED IT. If people cared they wouldn't do this.

This is 100% more interesting. I'm excited to watch some of this. If I weren't already on vacation during that time I would be interested in grabbing a cheap courtside seat.

Yall also acting like this still isn't merit based. They are objectively the best tennis players in the world. If Casper Ruud and iga swiatek tried to play doubles for a year. They would be world #1. Same for a lot of the others. They just have better things to do. Like playing tennis matches people actually watch.
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I actually don't mind all that much, except for the abbreviated scoring and 2 day format. Feels weird to crown a GS champ for so little effort. Also - let's be real - no one watches regular doubles either(look at the men's doubles seeds at RG - many guys not even top 1000 in singles - Opelka is not the only singles guy who laughs at dubs). We could be down the route of this exo style format for that as well years from now. The ATP tried to phase out dubs in 2005(and the dubs guys had to agree to the abbreviated scoring in tour events), it's not like it's gotten any more popular since then.
Konik_1982 said:
With all respect....nobody really cares for a mixed double slam title...
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this is morbid, but whenever Richard Gasquet passes away, the first line of his obit will include that he won mixed GS title at RG. I've read a ton of NY Times obits and winning a Grand Slam, even in mixed, will always be the headline, even if that guy was top 10 in singles etc.
 
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socallefty said:
I hate the abbreviated scoring system being used where sets go only to four games. Is this a first to have that in a Slam for matches that count? I feel we are down the slippery road where someday this will become normal tennis scoring at all tournaments trying to appeal to fans with shorter and shorter attention spans.
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The mixed went to no ad score and a super TB in lieu of a final set in 2003, the other majors soon followed.

In 2005, a lawsuit by the Bryan Bros prevented the ATP from making all doubles matches 4 game sets. But they did agree to the super TB in lieu of playing a 3rd set. Many posters here at the time seemed upset(saying that you can't compare dubs accomplishments pre 2006 to post 2006 now because of new scoring etc), but I guess they ultimately didn't care.

UTR seems very popular(many play it instead of tour events), would't be surprised if the ATP tries out that scoring at a 250 someday.
 
socallefty said:
Any match with sets that end at 4 games is an exhibition for me and I won’t watch it just like with the NextGen finals. I’ve tried watching it to see the young stars, but the scoring system always makes me feel like I’m not watching real tennis. Then again I don’t watch mixed doubles (or qualifying week) and so the USTA is likely not going to care about my opinion.

I wonder if in the near future, we will have short-format tournaments in between regular-scoring tournaments with less of the latter for tennis singles also. Just like one-day cricket and then 20/20 formats have made Test Cricket less important on the cricket calendar. More than the regular doubles specialists not being invited, I’m surprised there is not more controversy about a Slam using this abbreviated scoring system for a regular Slam title. I guess the tennis traditionalists are less and less in numbers even in the media.
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The creme of Test cricket like the Ashes, WTC final or when big teams play generate a lot of interest. Just like big matches in grand slams.

However similar to doubles and mixed, test cricket no longer generates in smaller teams like Afg, Ban and one time powerhouse of West Indies
 
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