USO Final, I realized Medvedev is a very boring player

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one dimensional Baseline player

Doesn't come to net
Does not dropshot much
Rarely adds slice to vary pace like Big3
No variety. Opposite of Alcaraz

Just a huge boring YAWN on the court
But, a great personality off the court

Man you better shut your f*** up okay?"
The more you boo, the more I will win !
 
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He played well in the semis but yea he was a deer in headlights when he had to play someone with a serve like Djoker. He didn't have a clue what the hell he was doing. He was blitzed from the start
 
But his personality makes up for it.
Man you better shut your **** up okay? Hey Stefanos you wanna look at me and talk? You have some problems and you go emergency toilet for 5 minutes, and then you hit let and you don't say sorry, and you think you are a good kid? Look at me. Hey look at me. Look at me! He started it. Yeah he started it, he said Bullsheet Russian you think this is normal? I answered him because he doesn't know how to fight. He's a small kid who doesn't know how to fight.
 
I find him very interesting to watch. His game lacks variety in the conventional sense, but there's plenty variety if you're willing to draw the lines a little differently. Maybe his game is "monotonous", but it's an avant-garde monotony.

Although his net game is p*ss poor, I don't think coming to net is inherently interesting. Medvedev's one of the few players who routinely takes a midcourt ball and immediately retreats to the baseline instead of coming to net. To me that's novel and interesting. Maybe it's not optimal, but it's interesting. I also don't agree that he doesn't vary pace. IMO one of the things that makes him so effective is his knack for suddenly injecting pace and changing direction when his opponent doesn't expect him to. He generates his offense from neutral positions via his opponents' expectation of continued neutrality. To me that's every bit as compelling as a player who generates offense with raw pace or early directional changes.

I also just think his play style is really interesting given his height. He's a player who lacks the requisite technical ability to excel by playing in a manner typical of a 6'6" player, but he's compensated for his technical deficiencies by constructing a play style that only works because he's unusually fast and agile for his height. He became a top-3 return game player on tour by hitting flat from a deep return position. He doesn't play like a 6'6" player but he serves like one. He has perhaps the most unpredictable second serve in the sport outside of Kyrgios and Bublik. He can't volley and looks awkward coming to net, but he's somehow excellent at retrieving drop shots. His backhand has a unique side spin that keeps opponents pinned to their backhand corner in CC exchanges. He rarely errs from neutral positions, so most points he plays are highly competitive.

There's much more I can say, but one more thing that fascinates me about Medvedev's game is the tension that exists between his preference for grueling, extended rallies, and the fact that he doesn't possess superhuman stamina. Medvedev has little reason to be confident that he can play his style of tennis indefinitely without hitting a wall. He simply goes into every match betting his opponent will hit the wall first. He's usually right.
 
I find him very interesting to watch. His game lacks variety in the conventional sense, but there's plenty variety if you're willing to draw the lines a little differently. Maybe his game is "monotonous", but it's an avant-garde monotony.

Although his net game is p*ss poor, I don't think coming to net is inherently interesting. Medvedev's one of the few players who routinely takes a midcourt ball and immediately retreats to the baseline instead of coming to net. To me that's novel and interesting. Maybe it's not optimal, but it's interesting. I also don't agree that he doesn't vary pace. IMO one of the things that makes him so effective is his knack for suddenly injecting pace and changing direction when his opponent doesn't expect him to. He generates his offense from neutral positions via his opponents' expectation of continued neutrality. To me that's every bit as compelling as a player who generates offense with raw pace or early directional changes.

I also just think his play style is really interesting given his height. He's a player who lacks the requisite technical ability to excel by playing in a manner typical of a 6'6" player, but he's compensated for his technical deficiencies by constructing a play style that only works because he's unusually fast and agile for his height. He became a top-3 return game player on tour by hitting flat from a deep return position. He doesn't play like a 6'6" player but he serves like one. He has perhaps the most unpredictable second serve in the sport outside of Kyrgios and Bublik. He can't volley and looks awkward coming to net, but he's somehow excellent at retrieving drop shots. His backhand has a unique side spin that keeps opponents pinned to their backhand corner in CC exchanges. He rarely errs from neutral positions, so most points he plays are highly competitive.

There's much more I can say, but one more thing that fascinates me about Medvedev's game is the tension that exists between his preference for grueling, extended rallies, and the fact that he doesn't possess superhuman stamina. Medvedev has little reason to be confident that he can play his style of tennis indefinitely without hitting a wall. He simply goes into every match betting his opponent will hit the wall first. He's usually right.
Top 3 return player? He’s actually the #1 rated hardcourt return player on the planet by a large margin.

 
Top 3 return player? He’s actually the #1 rated hardcourt return player on the planet by a large margin.


And tennis is played on other surfaces, too.

But it doesn't matter where, exactly, he ranks. My point is that he became an elite return game player with a style that's really unique and probably shouldn't work as well as it does, and I find that style interesting.
 
I’m not big fan of Medvedev game,but as I said once, one have to respect uniqueness of his technique that brings him results.Guy is in top 3 HC players since his ascent to top of the game ,started late 2018 .
 
I'm not a big fan of his gamestyle and it was painful to see how tactically inept he was when returning Djoker's wide 1st serve on the deuce court time and time again in the recent USO final.

However I do find his personality to be quite unique and I like that he doesn't hesitate to call someone out on their BS (Tsitsipas incident rings a bell, him telling the irritating NY crowd that they can boo him all they want, he's still going to want to win for them)
 
There were so many times when he worked himself into a favorable position in the point only to send back another mid pace low spin rally ball and give up the initiative. Very limited player. Alcaraz will learn how to deal with him
 
one dimensional Baseline player

Doesn't come to net
Does not dropshot much
Rarely adds slice to vary pace like Big3
No variety. Opposite of Alcaraz

Just a huge boring YAWN on the court
But, a great personality off the court

Man you better shut your f*** up okay?"
The more you boo, the more I will win !

I don’t watch him enough.

He is boringerer than Federererer. I know that for sure.

But I feel like having to play a grueling semi - not to mention qtr - made him a lot more boringererererer than he usually would be.

Also - he’s my favorite personality on the tour right now - hands down.

So I’ll take his one dimensional game if he’ll keep doing pressers. He’s a breath of fresh air.
 
one dimensional Baseline player

Doesn't come to net
Does not dropshot much
Rarely adds slice to vary pace like Big3
No variety. Opposite of Alcaraz

Just a huge boring YAWN on the court
But, a great personality off the court

Man you better shut your f*** up okay?"
The more you boo, the more I will win !
No wonder you're a rookie.
 
He's boring like the rest (except Carlos) because he has no belief he can beat Djokovic. Just go through the motions and lose. And his game is boring and ugly. Best personality in tennis though, but doesn't back up the talk.

That's why it sucked Carlos lost, because then the final was a formality.

USO and Wimb finals had similar first 2 sets, the difference was Djok's opponent.
 
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