USTA/ITA Intercollegiate Indoors thread

ClarkC said:
Still, UVA is not anxious to use him in doubles until he is 100% healthy. Men's teams look for free points on serve in doubles, not merely for a serve that is not easily attacked.

It will be interesting to see what happen when Montes is 100%. Will the coach want to disrupt doubles pairings late in the season?
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Would they do it though? I guess it depends on how the existing pairings go. Today they dropped the dubs to the Vols but that's a good team so no shame in doing so.
 
Honestly it’s not impossible to survive without a serve in college tennis. When players get tired in 3rd sets they often are just used as rally starters anyway. And with how players squeeze the lines on serves so much, aces are harder to come by.
 
ClarkC said:
Still, UVA is not anxious to use him in doubles until he is 100% healthy. Men's teams look for free points on serve in doubles, not merely for a serve that is not easily attacked.

It will be interesting to see what happen when Montes is 100%. Will the coach want to disrupt doubles pairings late in the season?
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yes, his hands are amazing, has to be in the dubs lineup when he's healthy

have always been surprised how well he picks off volleys at the net, esp when his partner serving, given his singles style of play
 
Didn't realize Columbia has this awesome facility now. That should keep it a solid program, given it offers Ivy League education and NYC. That's not for everyone, obviously, but it's a real draw for some players.
 
bluetrain4 said:
Does the conference switch help or hurt UCLA and USC? Or not necessarily either, or it's impossible to know. I guess it will take a few years to REALLY know.
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The Pac-12 other than AZ is pretty weak. None of the others is a top 8 or even a top 16 team. ASU has a strong top 3 and could slide into the top 16 but they are subpar in the 4-6 spots. UCLA and USC need to step up their recruiting next year as Dostanic (USC) and Nanda (UCLA) will be done. Makk has shown he's not a #1 for the Trojans. And although the Bruins have a couple of strong freshmen in Quan and Bigun coming in, their top of the lineup cred is also questionable. Drop them into the Big Ten and they'll struggle against Ohio St, MSU and Illinois.
 
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bluetrain4 said:
Does the conference switch help or hurt UCLA and USC? Or not necessarily either, or it's impossible to know. I guess it will take a few years to REALLY know.
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I think it’ll be awkward for them. They will have to play indoors more than they like to. But most years they should be good enough to beat Purdue/Indiana/Nebraska/Wisconsin/Penn State regardless of indoors or outdoors.
But on the flip side, it’ll be uncomfortable for Illinois/Ohio State etc to out to LA.

I would imagine that USC/UCLA will still schedule Stanford and Cal in non conference matches.

I actually think it will help Washington and Oregon more. For whatever reason, they can never truly get it going in tennis and it has always been tough for them to have to play the Cali schools each year. But against Big Ten teams who share their indoors prevalence i could see them getting more wins against the aforementioned lower Big Ten programs.
 
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Sureshot said:
The Pac-12 other than AZ is pretty weak. None of the others is a top 8 or even a top 16 team. ASU has a strong top 3 and could slide into the top 16 but they are subpar in the 3-6 spots. UCLA and USC need to step up their recruiting next year as Dostanic (USC) and Nanda (UCLA) will be done. Makk has shown he's not a #1 for the Trojans. And although the Bruins have a couple of strong freshmen in Quan and Bigun coming in, their top of the lineup cred is also questionable. Drop them into the Big Ten and they'll struggle against Ohio St, MSU and Illinois.
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right,, man,,, Arizona and Az state made it into the tournament and Card didn't ????? LOL.,... this is perfect example that entire seeding system of NCAA is totally bogus and faluty. Come NCAA tournament time in may,,, NCAA MUST make Card #1 seed to make up for all their mistakes in the past
 
Nostradamus said:
right,, man,,, Arizona and Az state made it into the tournament and Card didn't ????? LOL.,... this is perfect example that entire seeding system of NCAA is totally bogus and faluty. Come NCAA tournament time in may,,, NCAA MUST make Card #1 seed to make up for all their mistakes in the past
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The Card didn’t make it because they lost to a mediocre Michigan team which has gotten trounced in the two matches they’ve played so far at Indoors and also received a drubbing at the hands of Harvard. Let’s face it, Stanford only has Basavareddy. The much touted freshman class is a dud and your future atp top 50 Kang was about to lose to Silva of Sacramento last week prior to going DNF.

It would have been embarrassing had they made it to Indoors as they would have gotten destroyed which would have been terrible for their psyche.
 
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Will be streaming this today! OSU has looked abysmal in the doubles point (twilight zone moment). UVA could make a finals push. TCU looks pretty solid. jirousek at 6 has been great. Love watching him play tbh
 
Sureshot said:
The Card didn’t make it because they lost to a mediocre Michigan team which has gotten trounced in the two matches they’ve played so far at Indoors and also received a drubbing at the hands of Harvard. Let’s face it, Stanford only has Basavareddy. The much touted freshman class is a dud and your future atp top 50 Kang was about to lose to Silva of Sacramento last week prior to going DNF.

It would have been embarrassing had they made it to Indoors as they would have gotten destroyed which would have been terrible for their psyche.
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Silva was touted as top 10 atp player when he was 6 years old
 
Clemson_tennis said:
Shouldn’t they put the two semifinals at the same time today for recovery time for tomorrow? Instead they have OSU/UVA at 12 and TCU/Wake at 3:30
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yesterday, Virginia played their quarterfinal at 9 am.
Ohio State played their QF at 3:30 pm

yesterday, TCU played their quarterfinal at noon
Wake Forest played their QF at 6:30 pm

people....that schedule these matches.....never seem.....to have any common sense

Despite a huge rest disadvantage....credit to the Buckeyes for beating a well rested Virginia team.
 
Clemson_tennis said:
Is he the famous “tennis kid”? From those videos years ago on tennis channel.
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No, that was Connor Hance, who played at UCLA. Don't know what he's doing now. He was the little kid who came on court to hit with Taylor Dent in a commercial years ago. At the end of the commercial Andre Agassi drives up and calls him. Because of that many people thought he was Andre's and Steffi's son (he wasn't). Connor comes from a tennis family where both parents are teaching pros and his siblings played or play college tennis. His mother had a short-lived instructional show on TC that featured a young Connor as the 'Tennis Kid'.
 
ive always been a fan of having foreign players in us colleges but this is really getting sad. all these top teams in NCAA are winning because of foreign players not because of they just added one foreign player to help the team and so on. this is really sad
 
tennisfan17 said:
Will be streaming this today! OSU has looked abysmal in the doubles point (twilight zone moment). UVA could make a finals push. TCU looks pretty solid. jirousek at 6 has been great. Love watching him play tbh
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Buckeyes win 4-0. Interesting happenings in the deciding Dubs match, at beginning of tiebreak, UVA coach stepped in and overruled HIS OWN players who had called a ball out. Kudos to the sportsmanship of the UVA coach. Then on final point of Tracy clincher for the Buckeyes, the chair overruled a ball Monte’s called out, giving the sweep to OSU. Going to be an absolute barn burner vs. TCU tomorrow. Dubs point will be huge. TCU top of lineup better, but OSU bottom of lineup stronger. And for Nostradamus above - Buckeyes have NO foreign born players. Had one last year in Trotter (Japan) and 2 the year before, Trotter and Vocel(Czech)
 
scmyers said:
Buckeyes win 4-0. Interesting happenings in the deciding Dubs match, at beginning of tiebreak, UVA coach stepped in and overruled HIS OWN players who had called a ball out. Kudos to the sportsmanship of the UVA coach. Then on final point of Tracy clincher for the Buckeyes, the chair overruled a ball Monte’s called out, giving the sweep to OSU. Going to be an absolute barn burner vs. TCU tomorrow. Dubs point will be huge. TCU top of lineup better, but OSU bottom of lineup stronger. And for Nostradamus above - Buckeyes have NO foreign born players. Had one last year in Trotter (Japan) and 2 the year before, Trotter and Vocel(Czech)
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Dominant show by the Buckeyes. Btw, isn't Boulais Canadian? Or am I mistaken?
 
Nostradamus said:
ive always been a fan of having foreign players in us colleges but this is really getting sad. all these top teams in NCAA are winning because of foreign players not because of they just added one foreign player to help the team and so on. this is really sad
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Shouldn't Stanford then ban Fery, Basing, Geller, Kolasinski etc?
 
Terrible showing by two storied programs, Michigan and USC. Went 0 for 6 combined this weekend. I guess both were missing key players in Dostanic (USC) and Ehrenschneider (Michigan). But they shouldn't be reduced to this level of incompetence in their absence.
 
Clemson_tennis said:
Shouldn’t they put the two semifinals at the same time today for recovery time for tomorrow? Instead they have OSU/UVA at 12 and TCU/Wake at 3:30
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Typically the same at NCAAs (and pro tournaments) - and yes it’s unfair and done to sell tickets rather than create equal recovery in all cases
 
scmyers said:
Buckeyes win 4-0. Interesting happenings in the deciding Dubs match, at beginning of tiebreak, UVA coach stepped in and overruled HIS OWN players who had called a ball out. Kudos to the sportsmanship of the UVA coach.
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With doubles getting coded , on the 2nd overrule, coaches are now likely than ever before to overrule their own players on blatantly bad calls. I was watching from a side view and the ball was a couple inches inside the baseline. I also saw one of the Ohio State coaches overrule their own player as well so nice to see good sportsmanship
 
scmyers said:
And for Nostradamus above - Buckeyes have NO foreign born players. Had one last year in Trotter (Japan) and 2 the year before, Trotter and Vocel(Czech)
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Also kind reminder that the last time they won it (2019), their entire starting lineup were former USTA ******* kids (Wolf, McNally, Joyce, Cobalt, Tubert) one from neighboring state (Seelig from PA)
 
Sureshot said:
Terrible showing by two storied programs, Michigan and USC. Went 0 for 6 combined this weekend. I guess both were missing key players in Dostanic (USC) and Ehrenschneider (Michigan). But they shouldn't be reduced to this level of incompetence in their absence.
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Michigan was kind of expected as they lost so much playing and coaching talent from last year's team. Draw did them no favors as they ran into Wake then Texas. However, the loss to AZ State is crushing

USC is kind of a mess now. Obviously, losing Marek before the team season stings, but it is compounded when Dostanic is rumored to have left the team. When I saw them this week at team indoors, it looked as if they don't care at all. Not a lot of fight on
 
JW10S said:
No, that was Connor Hance, who played at UCLA. Don't know what he's doing now. He was the little kid who came on court to hit with Taylor Dent in a commercial years ago. At the end of the commercial Andre Agassi drives up and calls him. Because of that many people thought he was Andre's and Steffi's son (he wasn't). Connor comes from a tennis family where both parents are teaching pros and his siblings played or play college tennis. His mother had a short-lived instructional show on TC that featured a young Connor as the 'Tennis Kid'.
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Pickleball YouTuber
 
optimaltennis said:
Michigan was kind of expected as they lost so much playing and coaching talent from last year's team. Draw did them no favors as they ran into Wake then Texas. However, the loss to AZ State is crushing

USC is kind of a mess now. Obviously, losing Marek before the team season stings, but it is compounded when Dostanic is rumored to have left the team. When I saw them this week at team indoors, it looked as if they don't care at all. Not a lot of fight on
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Interesting if the rumor regarding Dostanic is true. In his interview with Gruskin, Coach Masi said he was injured and working his way back to be available for conference play. Agree Marek’s loss is big and too late for them to bring in an equivalent replacement.
 
Excited for the finals today!

Kinda an odd tournament. Lots of fun upsets and cool matches. Excited to see TCU and OSU play. No idea how it will turn out honestly.

Michigan and USC.... Kinda a let down this indoors honestly. I know there are a ton of extenuating circumstances but still. Sad to see them go 0-3.

Let's go TCU!
 
During the AO when Jagger Leach (Lindsay Davenport's son) got a little social media attention pointing to his mom's name on the champions placard, a few people posted that he was headed to TCU or had "made a commitment to TCU" or something.
 
Parsa shared that Cooper Wostendyck (sp?) a top US junior who won the AO doubles is headed to TCU. So they have the pipeline humming.
 
TCU wins No. 1 singles 0 and 1?! All the other matches much closer - TCU winning two first sets, and OSU winning three first sets in the remaining five singles matches. None of the sets were blowouts - all 6-4, 7-5, or 7-6.
 
Spicy - TCU up 3-2. Starting the third set at #6, and potential for OSU to get to a third set at #5 (though not there yet, but up 5-3).
 
scmyers said:
Without a doubt the two best teams in the nation. What a match by both teams. Like I said up thread TCU top lineup better but Buckeyes depth was stronger. Winning 3-6 singles. Fun
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Huge congrats. Still recall your post early in the season in which you were very high on this squad and it’s panned out at least with one of the national team championships. They should schedule lots of training & match play down south to acclimatize to
 
I decree that NCAA put in a new rule for NCAA D1 tennis. you can only put in 1 foreign player into top 6 lineup at any given dual match or tournament team play
 
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