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What % games will travlerajm win in his UTR league debut season?

  • 0-10 — he will get walloped.

  • 10-20 — routed but pride intact.

  • 20-30 — almost respectable.

  • 30-40 — respectable loser.

  • 40-50 — mediocre performance.

  • 50-60 — average.

  • 60-70 — passing grade.

  • 70-80 — dominance!

  • 80-90 — he’s over-level shouldn’t be playing flex league.

  • 90-100 — he should ask UTR for his money back.


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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I just signed up to play in a UTR singles flex league for the first time.

As of today, I’m a UTR 5 in singles and a UTR 4 in doubles. Will I be able to make progress?

I will be reporting my opponent ratings and scores here.
 

TennisOTM

Professional
Following. I've done them in my area and have found the league coordinators to be pretty responsive - if you message them to tell them you'd like to be in a higher-level group (pointing to your 4.5 USTA rating) they may oblige. Is there normally a singles group of UTR 7+ guys in prior versions of your league?

Or maybe you just want to stay quiet and see where they put you naturally, for blog entertainment purposes.
 

drivophd

Rookie
I just signed up to play in a UTR singles flex league for the first time.

As of today, I’m a UTR 5 in singles and a UTR 4 in doubles. Will I be able to make progress?

I will be reporting my opponent ratings and scores here.
That’s a lot of deterioration in your UTR from the 8-9 range it was at a few months back.
 

TennisOTM

Professional
What level did you sign up for (if they had those choices?)
You don't sign up for a level in UTR flex leagues - they form groups according to the UTR of everyone who signed up, trying to make everyone in the same group pretty close. But if you don't have a UTR or it's unreliable, you might have some say in where you're placed.
 

5sets

Hall of Fame
Don’t give any charity games. You literally will have to blow everyone off the court to rise up to your correct number. Don’t say anything to them for the purpose of the thread please. I have ranged from UTR 4-7 myself as a 4.5 ntrp lol.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Don’t give any charity games. You literally will have to blow everyone off the court to rise up to your correct number. Don’t say anything to them for the purpose of the thread please. I have ranged from UTR 4-7 myself as a 4.5 ntrp lol.
Win or lose, I promise to entertain.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
What level did you sign up for (if they had those choices?)
When I signed up, I wrote in the “info about your level” field that I was a 4.5c, because the UTR ratings seem pretty useless for rec players who don’t play rated matches frequently.

When I signed up a few a weeks ago, my singles UTR was a 5. Today it has rebounded to 7.4.
 

mpnv1990

Semi-Pro
When I signed up, I wrote in the “info about your level” field that I was a 4.5c, because the UTR ratings seem pretty useless for rec players who don’t play rated matches frequently.

When I signed up a few a weeks ago, my singles UTR was a 5. Today it has rebounded to 7.4.
Their rating system can be a little wonky.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Update:
It looks like there are 53 players registered in my flex league event. The field does not look very strong.

The league is for players with singles UTR 1.0-16.0, but the UTR ratings for the players signed up are skewed toward the bottom of the range.

I have doubts that I will get a competitive match out of this.

Can you guys help me pre-write my complaint letter to UTR so that I have it ready to go? I mean who knows, maybe these guys are sandbagging their UTR ratings, but I kind of doubt it.
 
Update:
It looks like there are 53 players registered in my flex league event. The field does not look very strong.

The league is for players with singles UTR 1.0-16.0, but the UTR ratings for the players signed up are skewed toward the bottom of the range.

I have doubts that I will get a competitive match out of this.

Can you guys help me pre-write my complaint letter to UTR so that I have it ready to go? I mean who knows, maybe these guys are sandbagging their UTR ratings, but I kind of doubt it.
You'll be ok if they match you with the UTR 6 (multiple) and 7 that are 100%, the UTR 7 will probably beat you badly, and the UTR 4s with 100% will be a good test to see if you can beat them 6-0 6-0, but with a 4% reliability on your rating who knows what they will match you up with, hopefully those guys. Usually they do brackets. You can't sandbag a UTR though, not unless you see one of these players with a solid record of tanking 0-6 0-6 over and over again. Good luck!

Edit: actually it looks like the UTR 7 only plays over 40 USTA and flex league, so there could be some inflation in his UTR 7 giving you a good chance to bump your rating if you can beat him or make it close.
 

TennisOTM

Professional
Update:
It looks like there are 53 players registered in my flex league event. The field does not look very strong.

The league is for players with singles UTR 1.0-16.0, but the UTR ratings for the players signed up are skewed toward the bottom of the range.

I have doubts that I will get a competitive match out of this.

Can you guys help me pre-write my complaint letter to UTR so that I have it ready to go? I mean who knows, maybe these guys are sandbagging their UTR ratings, but I kind of doubt it.
In my experience they get a lot of sign-ups close to the deadline. If I found the right one, it looks like the current, ongoing iteration of your league has 116 players including about a dozen players with UTR 7-8. So there's reason for optimism, maybe?
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
My flex league is supposed to start in 2 days, but no schedule or opponents have been sent yet. Is this normal?

Or does UTR just expect us to look up players in the list of registered players with similar UTR and contact them?
 

TennisOTM

Professional
My flex league is supposed to start in 2 days, but no schedule or opponents have been sent yet. Is this normal?

Or does UTR just expect us to look up players in the list of registered players with similar UTR and contact them?
It's normal - they take new registrations up to last minute. Then they will form the groups and your list of opponents, maybe tomorrow. Is the list of players in your league looking any better?
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
It's normal - they take new registrations up to last minute. Then they will form the groups and your list of opponents, maybe tomorrow. Is the list of players in your league looking any better?
Says event in progress but no matchups yet.

126 names on the list. 3 of them UTR 7.x including me. The rest lower.

My UTR fluctuates daily. Today it’s 7.52. Tomorrow I could be a UTR 5.x. Will this impact my matchups?
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
My division has been set. The first thing I notice that my division is 100% male players even though my league is Co-Ed. This is disappointing.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
In all, there are 172 participants registered.

I have been placed into “Group 1” comprising supposedly the 10 highest rated adult registered players.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I created a poll for motivational purposes only.

I have not had a chance to play singles in a while unfortunately. I’m planning to play a practice match today to figure out what my singles game looks like heading into the event.
 

TennisOTM

Professional
Looks like a couple of 3.5 guys made it into the top group, though their UTR's suggest they should be 4.0s. At least there is one legit 4.5 singles player.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I played a practice singles match today against a 22-year-old fresh off the boat from Ukraine who used google translate to discuss the match afterward.

It was my first singles match in ages, and I felt my legs starting to break down as we hit the 90 minute mark after a lot of intense long rally points.

I retired to avoid injury when my hammy starting tightening up and giving me the ‘no mas’ signal even tho I was leading 6-3, 3-2. As the match wore on, I was playing more conservatively and having to run a lot.

My opponent texted me afterward (thru his Google translate) to apologize for behaving ‘psychotic’ on the court ( he smashed a few balls into the back fence ). I’ve seen much worse.

I’m def not in singles shape going into this.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Is it expected that you play each Round in order? Or does the schedule totally not matter. I just reached out to my “Round 1” opponent.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
He appears to be a 27yo software engineer with East Coast and California tennis background. He has read my texts but did not reply. I will give him benefit of the doubt and assume he’s in a mtg.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Update: I reached by text to to 3 of the 4 opponents in my division to ask to play this week. Zero replies.
 

chuckersthenut

Hall of Fame
I played a practice singles match today against a 22-year-old fresh off the boat from Ukraine who used google translate to discuss the match afterward.

It was my first singles match in ages, and I felt my legs starting to break down as we hit the 90 minute mark after a lot of intense long rally points.

I retired to avoid injury when my hammy starting tightening up and giving me the ‘no mas’ signal even tho I was leading 6-3, 3-2. As the match wore on, I was playing more conservatively and having to run a lot.

My opponent texted me afterward (thru his Google translate) to apologize for behaving ‘psychotic’ on the court ( he smashed a few balls into the back fence ). I’ve seen much worse.

I’m def not in singles shape going into this.
How is it a 22 year old able bodied male was able to leave Ukraine? Is he jewish?
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
I was able to get a reply from 2 folks. One of them seems preoccupied prepping for an international business trip, so not sure if a match will materialize.

But I was able to schedule a match for Saturday morning with the other. I let him pick the time and location. I may regret it, because I am a much better shade and evening player, and I suck in the sun.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
For the special occasion of my upcoming UTR flex league debut, I strung up a fresh never-used Dunlop Cx200 Tour 16x19 that came from the stash of platform racquets being used to build my atp client’s prototypes last season.

I put in my hybrid of choice, kevlar/zx, prestretched at 57 lbs.

It weighs 323g. But it will weigh “significantly” more than that after modifications.
 
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This is why I won’t do UTR flex leagues again. Why do people sign up if they have no intention of playing?
How much does it cost? I play in a local ladder, it cost $50 but that seems like the sweet spot to actually get people to respond. Have done free and other less expensive ladders “flex league” type things and it seems like there isn’t enough (literal) buy in to get people to play
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Last night I built up my modded Cx200 tour to my preferred spec range. But didn’t have the energy to make it the wall to test the prototype.

This morning I Igot up early enough to hit the wall first before my match. Needed to bump up swingweight to about 380sw.

I arrived at court on time at 10am. A beautiful sunny day in Seattle, low 60s F.

Courts at Juanita High school were full, but as I walked up, a couple of guys said they were finishing. My lucky day.

I texted my opponent to tell him I was on court 4. He was 2 minutes away.

The match was on.
 

travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
My opponent showed up carrying a matching pair of Blue Yonexes, so I knew he could play.

He was in his early 30s, just moved here from Boston. He was 6’3”, lean, and athletically built. I wasn’t expecting him to be such a physical beast.

In warmup, it was clear that he was comfortable and solid off both wings on the baseline, but less comfortable at net. One of those singles specialist guys.

We started the match, and I was playing solid enough to win the points, but my opponent was a grinding baseline wall. Every point was long, and only ended when I took the initiative by either coming to net or trying to draw my opponent to net. He was quite good at passing shots both wings, so I had to approach carefully and play patiently.

After a few games, I realized that the more conventional the rally ball I gave him, the better he played. He liked to unload on his fh on waist high mid court balls. The more I MEP’d it with junk, the more likely I was to win the point. So I played like a rec level Santoro.

I ended up closing it out without losing any games, but it took more than 90 minutes to win 6-0, 6-0. There were almost no unforced errors from either of us.

He said afterward that he can usually win against “baseliners” because he is faster covering the court and more consistent than them, but that he needs to play against more guys like me that give him more variety.

He said he wins in singles against 4.0 players 75% of the time, and against 4.5 players 25% of the time. Sounds about right.

Updated % of Games Won:
100%
 
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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
The 100% 7.xx guy in my group reached out today me today. I think we will try to play next weekend. My current singles UTR is 5.62.

I believe he is an MD/PhD orthopedic surgeon. My opponent from today just finished his PhD. What’s up with all the smart dudes playing flex league?
 
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travlerajm

Talk Tennis Guru
Certainly, don't injure yourself, I don't think many people play flex league matches close together .
I agreed to give the psychotic Ukrainian a shot at revenge tomorrow (yeah I know, technically I retired last time), but he is eager to prove that he can beat me.

The most likely outcome is that I will have to retire again tomorrow after 90 minutes while leading to preserve leg health.
 
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