Hi! I have been playing in USTA leagues and tournaments since 2015 and recently joined a league that uses UTR. So my UTR shows I have never played a match, ever. It seems (if I'm reading the UTR info correctly?) that USTA league matches do not count, but USTA tournaments do. I played a match today and it was literally 35 minutes, 6-0, 6-0, and the whole reason I joined this league was to get more competitive matches (it's a coed singles league.) So do I just stick with it and hope I rise up through the levels pretty quickly, or is there some way to at least add tournament results?
UTR shows NO matches
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The1AndOnly
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Unfortunately if the tournament/league you are playing in does not submit matches to UTR there seems to be no real way to have those matches count towards your UTR...
If you really want to obtain a UTR I'd recommend playing a couple of USTA tournaments (ones with players that are close to your skill level) in order to have some matches on your record
If you really want to obtain a UTR I'd recommend playing a couple of USTA tournaments (ones with players that are close to your skill level) in order to have some matches on your record
Thanks, you guys. I just discovered that I have two profiles so I did "request merge." The weird thing is, one of my profiles (the one I just found now) seems to have all (or a lot) of my matches and tournaments, but still says "this player doesn't have enough matches to accurately rate" - and it says you need 6-10 and I have (showing up on UTR) at least twice that amount. Weird.
This league I'm in is self scheduling with a leaderboard and when I signed up the guy told me that the ranking are often way off so once new players play several matches, they get an idea if someone is really in the wrong category, so hopefully that'll happen soon. I'm playing singles at playoffs at the end of the month and I wanted to have a bunch of opportunities for some competitive singles matches to stay ready.
BallBag
Professional
Usually takes them a day or two to approve a merge.
UTR puts more weight on close matches with established opponents. It also only counts matches in the last year and there's separate ratings for singles and doubles. So your doubles results don't count for your singles rating and your 2015 matches don't count for anything. If most of your matches were against other opponents with a provisional rating you'll need closer to 10 valid results to get the "Established Rating".
Just out of curiosity, what's NTRP guesstimate and UTR?
UTR puts more weight on close matches with established opponents. It also only counts matches in the last year and there's separate ratings for singles and doubles. So your doubles results don't count for your singles rating and your 2015 matches don't count for anything. If most of your matches were against other opponents with a provisional rating you'll need closer to 10 valid results to get the "Established Rating".
Just out of curiosity, what's NTRP guesstimate and UTR?
USTA has me a computer rated 3.0. TR has me 3.1566. UTR has me 3.0 with a notation that there’s not enough matches to rank. Matches I’ve played in USTA league in 2018 are:
3.0 winter 40+: 3 doubles
3.0 spring: 4 doubles & 3 singles
3.5 spring: 8 singles
I also played singles in 4 USTA tournaments in 2018 - one at 3.0 and 3 at 3.5.
Seems like more than enough to rank.....weird!!
3.0 winter 40+: 3 doubles
3.0 spring: 4 doubles & 3 singles
3.5 spring: 8 singles
I also played singles in 4 USTA tournaments in 2018 - one at 3.0 and 3 at 3.5.
Seems like more than enough to rank.....weird!!
AtomicForehand
Hall of Fame
Don't they count only matches you have played in the last 6 months? Maybe that's why it says you don't have enough to be rated.
OnTheLine
Hall of Fame
As I think someone else also mentioned ... you need to have matches against others who are actually rated. So if you are playing others who do not have a rated UTR level, that will take even longer to get out of the projected category.
Play your best, have fun and seriously STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE DAMN RATING
Play your best, have fun and seriously STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE DAMN RATING
OTL, my issue is trying to find singles matches that will actually prepare me to play well! I am just having such trouble getting this. I joined this league (a self-scheduling co-ed singles league) and it seemed great. BUT the matches that I'm allowed to play because of my UTR rating are 6-0, 6-0 blowout over in 35 minutes. I'm playing singles at playoffs in 2 weeks and thought wow, this will be great, I can play challenging co-ed 3.5 singles a couple times each week during the month of July to stay ready. Nope. Instead I'm driving an hour to beat someone handily. Woo hoo.
This is my recurring theme in tennis! I want to be at a higher ranking so I can play more challenging matches. 3.0 is not challenging for me now. It's just not. If I can win 7 out of my 8 singles matches that I played at line 1 singles on my 3.5 team, it's hard for me to believe I don't belong there.
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Deleted member 23235
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the great part of playing "down" is that you can work on your game,... ie. add the tools, you'll evenutally need to beat 3.5 and 4.0's consistently... just make sure you're beating 3.0's with tools you'll evenually need at 4.0 (otherwise you'll always be stuck at 3.0, or 3.5)
what does tennisrecord or tls say?
OnTheLine
Hall of Fame
What NYTA said.
I get wanting competitive matches, But, I have found that if I want tune up matches, I have a pretty good contact list in my phone of people who I have played a strongly contested match ... it is easier for me to make a phone call and set up a match than it is to go luck of the draw in a tournament or ladder.
No one is saying you don't belong at a higher level than your current C rating ... but none of us can make the ratings do what we wish them to be, the algorithm will find you and make the adjustment.
Especially UTR for adult women. It is a disaster. You have at levels 2 & 3 people as low as 2.5 and all the way to 4.0. Total joke and nothing you can do to fix it.
I’m in a coed league and the majority of these UTR members are men not women. I figured 3.5 men would be competitive.
If I wanted to stay ready for doubles I’d be golden. But nobody likes singles, seriously! It’s summer, people are gone/traveling, it’s a billion degrees, and folks who are playing now are getting ready for fall doubles.
TR says 3.144 so I am anticipating a bump for next year.
If I wanted to stay ready for doubles I’d be golden. But nobody likes singles, seriously! It’s summer, people are gone/traveling, it’s a billion degrees, and folks who are playing now are getting ready for fall doubles.
TR says 3.144 so I am anticipating a bump for next year.
related but different: I also had two profiles which UTR merged several weeks go. what's odd is, the dubs tab shows the colored rating, meaning it has enough data samples to drop the 'p' and is a 'real' rating. however, the singles tab still shows the gray/p rating, in spite of having 16 recorded matches dating back to october...
"This player hasn’t played enough matches in the last 12 months for their rating to be reliable. It usually takes 6-10 matches to get a reliable rating, depending on the reliability of your opponent and how close the score was."
"This player hasn’t played enough matches in the last 12 months for their rating to be reliable. It usually takes 6-10 matches to get a reliable rating, depending on the reliability of your opponent and how close the score was."
Update -- the organizers of this league (a co-ed singles ladder-style non-USTA league that uses UTR for ranking) contacted me today and said they want to move me up even though UTR doesn't show it. So someone IS looking at the wins after all. The higher level they're moving me to has almost 3x as many players and they are at a higher level so I'll get some good games I think. So yay!
TimeToPlaySets
Legend
UTR now updates within a day of USTA matches being posted.
