Völkl C10 Pro Club!

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I have 3 2008's and 5 Bumblebees, one of which is a fish scale. I played today and the love affair keeps getting stoked. I have once again discovered some string which makes me feel really connected to the ball, Prince Warrior Hybrid Touch. All three of the glossy black beauties are strung up thusly at 55 pounds, weight and balance of those 3 to follow, specs are strung with pallet and one tournagrip (no grip at present) and a dampener:

1. 327g - 32.4cm
2. 326g - 32.3cm
3. 326g - 32.5cm

Pretty dadgum good QC if you ask me! (The one at 327g was the one I played with and the Touragrip absorbed some sweat...that may account for the 1g difference.)
 

rolli013

Rookie
What is the balance of this stock frame?
I've bought the current c10 pro to replace my wilson 6.1 thinking it was headlight but the volkl website lists it as 1.3 in HL. On the contrary, TW lists it as 8 points HL. Is it a headlight or more even balance?
 

gonzalocatalino

Hall of Fame
What is the balance of this stock frame?
I've bought the current c10 pro to replace my wilson 6.1 thinking it was headlight but the volkl website lists it as 1.3 in HL. On the contrary, TW lists it as 8 points HL. Is it a headlight or more even balance?
Is a HL racquet. Volkl specs are unstrung and TW listings are always strung.
 

rolli013

Rookie
Is a HL racquet. Volkl specs are unstrung and TW listings are always strung.
Thanks for the reply. but wouldn't an unstrung racquet have an even more headlight balance? I think strings would add more weight to the head, thus making it more head heavy. So your reasoning does not explain volkl's website listing as 1.3 HL.
 

gonzalocatalino

Hall of Fame
Thanks for the reply. but wouldn't an unstrung racquet have an even more headlight balance? I think strings would add more weight to the head, thus making it more head heavy. So your reasoning does not explain volkl's website listing as 1.3 HL.
The volkl specs are in inches, it is 1.3"inches hl. Tw list the specs in points (1p=1/8" if i remember right)
 

veecee

Rookie
C10 Pro users, I'm considering a C10 Pro and would like some thoughts on a poly setup to start with. I'm currently using a 6.1 95S with Tourna Black Zone 17 at 55lb. Thanks in advance.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
C10 Pro users, I'm considering a C10 Pro and would like some thoughts on a poly setup to start with. I'm currently using a 6.1 95S with Tourna Black Zone 17 at 55lb. Thanks in advance.
I am using my C10s with MSV Focus Hex 19 @ 23/22 kg.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
C10 Pro users, I'm considering a C10 Pro and would like some thoughts on a poly setup to start with. I'm currently using a 6.1 95S with Tourna Black Zone 17 at 55lb. Thanks in advance.
I have tried Prince XT 18 with Prince Premier 17 at 48 and like it very much. I'm currently using Gosen Sidewinder 17 and Babolat Synthetic Gut 17 at 52 and really like it. I have several more softer polys I'm going to try in the near future hybrided with synthetic gut.
 
Has anyone put a leather grip on their C10 Pro and how did the extra weight on the handle effect the performance? I was thinking of doing this, but my C10's weigh about 12.6 oz stock with an overgrip. A leather grip may push it to 13oz, which may be a bit much. Of course, since the extra weight would all be at the handle I assume it wouldn't effect the swing weight much other than making the racquet more head light. I like the idea of a leather grip since it defines the bevels better. With an overgrip on top of the stock synthetic it tends to round off the grip and make it a little mushy.
So i have Gamma leather grips on my 2008s. With a 17g poly/16g syn gut hybrid set up, some lead at 3 and 9, and dampner, my two weigh 368-369g (close to 13 oz). Yes heavy, but being so headlight, even with lead no the hoop they swing nice and easy. i estimate swingweight to be around 330. I am an average 4.0 and the feel, power, comfort are all very good to me. Keep looking at new sticks that come out, and after demoing, still keep coming back to these babies. Have to admit the new Prince Textreme 95 and Babolat Pure Control Tour are tempting, at least on paper.
 
C10 Pro users, I'm considering a C10 Pro and would like some thoughts on a poly setup to start with. I'm currently using a 6.1 95S with Tourna Black Zone 17 at 55lb. Thanks in advance.
like Technifibre Pro Red Code and Weisscanon Silverstring 17g in the mains, paired with any cheap 16g syn gut in the crosses. I string at 52lb in the mains, and 56lb in the crosses. Like the power and feel. Comofort is good for me. going to try Cyclone 17g in the mains next.
 
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mrmike

Semi-Pro
So i have Gamma leather grips on my 2008s. With a 17g poly/16g syn gut hybrid set up, some lead at 3 and 9, and dampner, my two weigh 368-369g (close to 13 oz). Yes heavy, but being so headlight, even with lead no the hoop they swing nice and easy. i estimate swingweight to be around 330. I am an average 4.0 and the feel, power, comfort are all very good to me. Keep looking at new sticks that come out, and after demoing, still keep coming back to these babies. Have to admit the new Prince Textreme 95 and Babolat Pure Control Tour are tempting, at least on paper.
Your story is familiar to me. Demo'd several racquets recently but keep going back to the C10 Pro. I am going to try the BB Melbourne since its been reintroduced. That could be the closest thing out there to a C10 with an 18x20 string pattern. The last 18x20 I used was the PT 280 and I do miss the accuracy you get with the tighter string bed.
 

veecee

Rookie
Thanks for everybody's replies on poly choices. Just going through the thread and seeing a few mentions of the grip shape being quite rectangular. Is it similar to the past Head grip shape? I have a Liquidmetal Radical and IG Extreme Pro 2 and both grips are fairly rectangular.
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Thanks for everybody's replies on poly choices. Just going through the thread and seeing a few mentions of the grip shape being quite rectangular. Is it similar to the past Head grip shape? I have a Liquidmetal Radical and IG Extreme Pro 2 and both grips are fairly rectangular.
Not similar to the Head grip shape in my experience. While the Head profile has an oblong shape with wider bevels parallel to the string bed (perhaps bevels #3 and #7), the Volkl grip profile is much more square to me. I hit a one-handed backhand and I have a much easier time setting my hand in the right spot for this stroke with my Volkls than with the Heads I've played.

I can't say that either is better or worse, but I've used a couple of Volkl models for a few years now, including the C10. Feel is a very subjective animal, but the Volkl shape has become home-sweet-home for me. When I was using a pair of LM Prestige mids though, that oblong shape made it especially easy for me to set my forehand grip in an extreme eastern position. If I hit a two-handed backhand, I'd probably love the Head grip shape for that, too.
 
Not similar to the Head grip shape in my experience. While the Head profile has an oblong shape with wider bevels parallel to the string bed (perhaps bevels #3 and #7), the Volkl grip profile is much more square to me. I hit a one-handed backhand and I have a much easier time setting my hand in the right spot for this stroke with my Volkls than with the Heads I've played.

I can't say that either is better or worse, but I've used a couple of Volkl models for a few years now, including the C10. Feel is a very subjective animal, but the Volkl shape has become home-sweet-home for me. When I was using a pair of LM Prestige mids though, that oblong shape made it especially easy for me to set my forehand grip in an extreme eastern position. If I hit a two-handed backhand, I'd probably love the Head grip shape for that, too.
I agree that the Volkl grip shape is more square than Head's, even though both are more rectangular than say Wilson's or Yonex's. I used both the MG Radical Pro and G Rad Pro (which killed my elbow), but never really liked the grip shapes that much. I am pretty happy with the C10's grip shape, esp with Leather grips.
 

veecee

Rookie
Ok great. Sounds like it's somewhere between a Head and a Wilson in terms of grip shape. Thanks everyone.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I just strung up my Fish Scale C10 with Solinco Tour Bite 19 at 52/49. I'm hitting tonight, will report tommorow.
Good choice, Rabbit! I tried Solinco Tour Bite 19 a few months and I liked it. Nice bite and a great feel for a poly string. Very comparable with MSV Focus Hex 19. Good luck!
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Good choice, Rabbit! I tried Solinco Tour Bite 19 a few months and I liked it. Nice bite and a great feel for a poly string. Very comparable with MSV Focus Hex 19. Good luck!
Thanks! I hit with it tonight and it was more than I was expecting. I felt very connected to the ball and spin and control were off the charts. The other thing I loved was how un-polyish this string feels. It is something special. Looks like I'll be ordering a reel. Except that you've muddied the water with the Focus Hex 19.....tell me more!
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
Both strings play very similar to me. The MSV Focus Hex 19 is just more durable than the Solinco string.

During a period of about a half an year I broke the Solinco twice while I seldom use to break strings as I mostly play on artificial grass.

Besides the MSV is twice as cheap as the Solinco. At least here in Europe.
However TW USA doesn't seem to sell MSV Focus Hex 19 gauge version. Too bad for you.
Otherwise you could try MSV Focus Hex 19 into one of your other C10s and compare both strings with each other.
 
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Gee

Hall of Fame
Lately I read somewhere on this forum that a new paintjob of the C10 Pro 'll be released next September.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
After 5 months back on the C10, no more golfer's elbow. I think I've settled on a string/tension. Digging the bumblebees again.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
Well, I scored some brand new, unused, never strung, plastic still on the handle fish scales.....





I'll be stringing these up directly!
 

mctennis

Legend
After 5 months back on the C10, no more golfer's elbow. I think I've settled on a string/tension. Digging the bumblebees again.
I use the C10 Pro Tours and I have to say I never have had shoulder/arm/elbow issues using these. I hope your good experience continues. The C10 pros are very nice sticks. The ones you just recently bought are the nicer varieties. I always liked the fish scale ones. Nice snag.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
thanks, guys! One of them is an original and has Classic 10 on the other side. I have fallen in love all over again...
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
thanks, guys! One of them is an original and has Classic 10 on the other side. I have fallen in love all over again...
Congratulations on your orginal C10s, Rabbit! You must be a very lucky man!
How do they compare to the latest (2010 and 2012) versions of the C10?
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
They are all really close. The 2010 (black) models I have are all slightly lighter than the bumblebees.
 

tnnsg

New User
C10 Pro and Pro tours best played with Hybrid poly set up, I tried 16L mains(54lbs) 17L crosses(52lbs) and wallah. The stiffness of the polys just about complements the flex of the frame.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I'm using Tourna BHB7 17 and Gosen OG 18. I've inched the tension up to 56 from 48 now. The play great.
 
I will be leaving this club (and selling my almost new C10 pros if my son doesn't want them). I liked the weight, balance and plow through etc., but the grip shape just doesn't fit my one handed backhand grip. It doesn't line up well with the rectangular shape...causing me to shift back towards a continental grip.

I am going back to Prince (a much more comfortable grip shape I grew up with).
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I will be leaving this club (and selling my almost new C10 pros if my son doesn't want them). I liked the weight, balance and plow through etc., but the grip shape just doesn't fit my one handed backhand grip. It doesn't line up well with the rectangular shape...causing me to shift back towards a continental grip.

I am going back to Prince (a much more comfortable grip shape I grew up with).
Wait,... don't switch too soon because you always can change the grip pallets. Völkl has pallets into different grip shapes available. See this link: http://gssalliance.com/boards/topic/volkl-pallet-system/
They are available at Tennis Warehouse Europe as well.
 
The TW Europe site has sizes listed, but they all appear to be replacements of the standard Volkl shape. I didn't see anything listing one that would allow me to alter the shape to a more square/rounded shape.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
The TW Europe site has sizes listed, but they all appear to be replacements of the standard Volkl shape. I didn't see anything listing one that would allow me to alter the shape to a more square/rounded shape.
Google volkl replacement grip pallets and you'll get links to tennis shops from UK that sell different grip shapes.
You might ask TW if they can order the S-pallets from Völkl as well.
 

monomer

Rookie
Is there C10 pro mid?
I was looking for c10 pro racquet pics and stumbled on C10 pro mid. I wonder they are the same or different.
There is the C10 Pro Tour that hasn't been produced for quite some time. A 93 with a slightly thinner beam and lower flex than the C10 Pro. Very hard to find.
 
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