Völkl C10 Pro Club!

Shangri La

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I've bought and sold the C10 Pro from TW twice of 2 different versions. Thinking about getting it again... All versions play the same right
 

EKTiger

Rookie
greetings for all, I'm kinda late to the party but I'm thinking of either trying one of the 2 latest paint jobs of the c10 pro or finding earlier releases on SF. What do you think? Is there a performance and quality gap between the later and earlier releases?
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Was watching an interview with Roddick and Federer from a few years ago and they flashed this photo of Fed. I assume when he was a junior. Did he every play with a C10 Pro? Sure looks like a fish scale version to me.

I know this is a question from a while ago, and I can't see the picture, but I have seen a photo or a story on Federer when he was younger (around the time he was with his Australian coach Peter Carter) and it looks like he was holding a PB10 Mid (had that unique head shape). Could possibly have been a C10 Pro Tour maybe (did they also have the unique head shape?).

EDIT: Ahh, few posts later I saw someone answered this... All the best ;)
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

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Interestingly, I've been looking at things on the TW Racquet Power Potential Tool, and I've noticed several things when comparing the different C10 Pros. They are all close but have various things changed and tweaked over the years. The 2012 version has the highest RA (so far), has less power towards the tip, but better values in the middle (by just a bit), however, it has the lowest Vibration and the highest Twistweight (which I find good). The one they have labeled as Classic C10 Pro has the lowest SW and TW, Vibration frequency similar to the 2012 version, better tip power than the 2012 version (but not as good as the one labeled C10 Pro), and an RA of 64. The one labeled C10 Pro has the best Tip power potential, TW in the middle of them all (lower than 2012 but higher than Classic C10 Pro), the highest SW, the highest Vibration Frequency value, and the lowest RA (although they are all close).

Based on these figures... which would be the "Goldielocks" choice...?
 
Hi guys. I just got a demo of this stick from TW. It came with Wilson Sensation string at 55lb. The strings looked fairly new, if not brand new. I took the stick out to play
singles match and I though it felt great ! My serves were huge, albeit my kick serves were not as good, but overall great serving stick. My backhand slices and
top spin were very good as well. The forehand baseline shots were a bit more difficult but it still felt decent just seemed less confident, I guess I have loopy forehands
and this stick with this string at least seemed more flat suited than normal for me. The guy I played against in the past twice,
we split the match each before. This time I won 6:4,6:4 and was really happy with the match and thus the stick :).
Now, I just played second match last night, it was doubles and we played 4 sets (still just 2 hours), my partner and I won all 4 but I had quite different experience this time.
My serves just could not go in, forehand degraded further ! I also felt my elbow get a bit tender ! Is it possible the strings went dead so quick ?!?!
I was about to buy the pair of these over cyber monday as the prices were great but last minute
changed my mind wanting to test further, and I think I made a good call as now I'm frustrated :-(
My current racquet is Wilson PS97, which I do like, I just wanted to give C10 Pro a shot as it's one of those great sticks people seem to go back to.
I was also intrigued by it's heavier weight, having tested the RF97 and liking that one very much just not liking the stifness, I thought the C10 Pro
would be the softer equivalent. It doesn't really play much like the RF97, but it did feel easier to get oomph on my shots, at least in the first outing.
Now I'm not sure anymore, probably stringing this with my normal hybrid setup would be best next step, but I'd need to probably buy it used
for extended demo.
So, could it be the strings went dead so quick or is the racquet more likely not for me ?
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
Hi guys. I just got a demo of this stick from TW. It came with Wilson Sensation string at 55lb. The strings looked fairly new, if not brand new. I took the stick out to play
singles match and I though it felt great ! My serves were huge, albeit my kick serves were not as good, but overall great serving stick. My backhand slices and
top spin were very good as well. The forehand baseline shots were a bit more difficult but it still felt decent just seemed less confident, I guess I have loopy forehands
and this stick with this string at least seemed more flat suited than normal for me. The guy I played against in the past twice,
we split the match each before. This time I won 6:4,6:4 and was really happy with the match and thus the stick :).
Now, I just played second match last night, it was doubles and we played 4 sets (still just 2 hours), my partner and I won all 4 but I had quite different experience this time.
My serves just could not go in, forehand degraded further ! I also felt my elbow get a bit tender ! Is it possible the strings went dead so quick ?!?!
I was about to buy the pair of these over cyber monday as the prices were great but last minute
changed my mind wanting to test further, and I think I made a good call as now I'm frustrated :-(
My current racquet is Wilson PS97, which I do like, I just wanted to give C10 Pro a shot as it's one of those great sticks people seem to go back to.
I was also intrigued by it's heavier weight, having tested the RF97 and liking that one very much just not liking the stifness, I thought the C10 Pro
would be the softer equivalent. It doesn't really play much like the RF97, but it did feel easier to get oomph on my shots, at least in the first outing.
Now I'm not sure anymore, probably stringing this with my normal hybrid setup would be best next step, but I'd need to probably buy it used
for extended demo.
So, could it be the strings went dead so quick or is the racquet more likely not for me ?
Wilson Sensation is a multifilament. And at 55lbs I doubt the string was a factor. I think you're just too new with the racquet and have unconsciously been making adjustments on your strokes during play. My experience with trying out new racquets is on first session they're fantastic. On the next session reality sets in and the body starts to "rebel".
 

louis netman

Hall of Fame
Hi guys. I just got a demo of this stick from TW. It came with Wilson Sensation string at 55lb. The strings looked fairly new, if not brand new. I took the stick out to play
singles match and I though it felt great ! My serves were huge, albeit my kick serves were not as good, but overall great serving stick. My backhand slices and
top spin were very good as well. The forehand baseline shots were a bit more difficult but it still felt decent just seemed less confident, I guess I have loopy forehands
and this stick with this string at least seemed more flat suited than normal for me. The guy I played against in the past twice,
we split the match each before. This time I won 6:4,6:4 and was really happy with the match and thus the stick :).
Now, I just played second match last night, it was doubles and we played 4 sets (still just 2 hours), my partner and I won all 4 but I had quite different experience this time.
My serves just could not go in, forehand degraded further ! I also felt my elbow get a bit tender ! Is it possible the strings went dead so quick ?!?!
I was about to buy the pair of these over cyber monday as the prices were great but last minute
changed my mind wanting to test further, and I think I made a good call as now I'm frustrated :-(
My current racquet is Wilson PS97, which I do like, I just wanted to give C10 Pro a shot as it's one of those great sticks people seem to go back to.
I was also intrigued by it's heavier weight, having tested the RF97 and liking that one very much just not liking the stifness, I thought the C10 Pro
would be the softer equivalent. It doesn't really play much like the RF97, but it did feel easier to get oomph on my shots, at least in the first outing.
Now I'm not sure anymore, probably stringing this with my normal hybrid setup would be best next step, but I'd need to probably buy it used
for extended demo.
So, could it be the strings went dead so quick or is the racquet more likely not for me ?
Remember, in tennis there are good days and not-so-good days. Also, arm over-use will cause issues. Further, Wilson Sensation loses tension rather quickly. Take your time and give the C10 a fighting chance! It's still my all-time my favorite stick (and I've demo'd just about every player frame from 1999-2012). Since 2012, only price/profit has increased (not quality) in this "racket"/industry. I have come to the conclusion that the 1st generation pair hanging on my rack will continue to hang there, outside of a miracle. I still own a half dozen modded C9Pros, but they just don't have the feel of the C10 due to the C10s use of Kevlar in the layup---that flexy, yet crisp feel at contact. Good luck!
 

jxs653

Semi-Pro
Hi guys. I just got a demo of this stick from TW. It came with Wilson Sensation string at 55lb. The strings looked fairly new, if not brand new. I took the stick out to play
singles match and I though it felt great ! My serves were huge, albeit my kick serves were not as good, but overall great serving stick. My backhand slices and
top spin were very good as well. The forehand baseline shots were a bit more difficult but it still felt decent just seemed less confident, I guess I have loopy forehands
and this stick with this string at least seemed more flat suited than normal for me. The guy I played against in the past twice,
we split the match each before. This time I won 6:4,6:4 and was really happy with the match and thus the stick :).
Now, I just played second match last night, it was doubles and we played 4 sets (still just 2 hours), my partner and I won all 4 but I had quite different experience this time.
My serves just could not go in, forehand degraded further ! I also felt my elbow get a bit tender ! Is it possible the strings went dead so quick ?!?!
I was about to buy the pair of these over cyber monday as the prices were great but last minute
changed my mind wanting to test further, and I think I made a good call as now I'm frustrated :-(
My current racquet is Wilson PS97, which I do like, I just wanted to give C10 Pro a shot as it's one of those great sticks people seem to go back to.
I was also intrigued by it's heavier weight, having tested the RF97 and liking that one very much just not liking the stifness, I thought the C10 Pro
would be the softer equivalent. It doesn't really play much like the RF97, but it did feel easier to get oomph on my shots, at least in the first outing.
Now I'm not sure anymore, probably stringing this with my normal hybrid setup would be best next step, but I'd need to probably buy it used
for extended demo.
So, could it be the strings went dead so quick or is the racquet more likely not for me ?
It's novelty I think. Usually people play great with new racquets and then back to normal with the novelty fading, although it seems it came a little too fast in your case.
 

louis netman

Hall of Fame
For all you C10 lovers, has the swingweight and / or layup composition changed any over the years? I ask because I have 2 leftover from waaay back (1996-98) and although they have the snappy graphite/kevlar feel, they are quite heavy...
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
For all you C10 lovers, has the swingweight and / or layup composition changed any over the years? I ask because I have 2 leftover from waaay back (1996-98) and although they have the snappy graphite/kevlar feel, they are quite heavy...
They have tweaked little bits and pieces through the years. Look up TW University and it will show you subtle differences. Some do claim that the earlier ones were heavier. The latest colour scheme (yellow with black on the inside of the head) is slightly stiffer and has a higher SW, according to TW.
 

louis netman

Hall of Fame
They have tweaked little bits and pieces through the years. Look up TW University and it will show you subtle differences. Some do claim that the earlier ones were heavier. The latest colour scheme (yellow with black on the inside of the head) is slightly stiffer and has a higher SW, according to TW.
Thx. Do you know which particular incarnation/paint scheme has the lowest SW?
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Thx. Do you know which particular incarnation/paint scheme has the lowest SW?
TW has 3 versions listed in their TW University Racquet Power Potential Tool. The "Volkl C10 Pro", the "Volkl C10 Pro 2012", and finally the "Volkl Classic C10 Pro". They don't seem to indicate what years each model pertains to, other than the 2012 - but even this one is 2012-onwards or the latest iteration and not just the 2012 version.

Out of these three listed in the above-mentioned Tool, the "Volkl Classic C10 Pro" has the lowest SW. This may be any C10 Pro that had "Classic 10 Pro written on the side of the racquet. But there still are variances within each paint-job, so the best thing to do is try to take it somewhere where you could get precise readings for the racquets you own.

Hope that helps.
 
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ron schaap

Professional
Wilson Sensation is a multifilament. And at 55lbs I doubt the string was a factor. I think you're just too new with the racquet and have unconsciously been making adjustments on your strokes during play. My experience with trying out new racquets is on first session they're fantastic. On the next session reality sets in and the body starts to "rebel".
Wel everybody knows Sensation is not a durable string with not much spinpotential. So on second outings the string would possess even less spin. To make a fair comparison you should string it with the same string as your Wilson and same tension or maybe little less tension because c10 has little less power, at least my c10 xtended has.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

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Wel everybody knows Sensation is not a durable string with not much spinpotential. So on second outings the string would possess even less spin. To make a fair comparison you should string it with the same string as your Wilson and same tension or maybe little less tension because c10 has little less power, at least my c10 xtended has.
The regular C10 Pro has a higher static weight and SW than an Xtended C10 Pro, even though it's a regular length (or at least it should according to TW). For that reason, it would have more power than an Xtended version (at least in theory).

My Xtended C10 Pro certainly is, and as a result, I've been able to add weight in the head and the handle. I also added two overgrips (as it was a grip size 4 3/8), and a rubber band dampener. The static weight with all the mods is 346g, which is the same as a regular C10 Pro with no mods, overgrips or dampeners. My racquet came to me strung with some sort of multi or syn gut, which needs replacing, but it still had excellent control and produced plenty of spin. Once I restring it with my regular string it should be a real gem.

I played with it once so far just to see how I felt about the extended length, and so far, it has not been a problem. On the FH side, it's great, on the BH side, I need to make sure I'm in position and behind the ball in order to hit with topspin (due to the length). BH slice shots are awesome and the length of the racquet assists when needing to dig out low balls that would otherwise be out of reach with the standard length C10 Pro. The racquet is maneuverable despite being longer in length due to the lower static weight. I have not measured the SW, but I will once I have my regular strings in the racquet.
 
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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
You imagine if the C10 Pro were Wilson, Head or Babolat instead of a Völkl ? A number one sales position
I completely agree... plus it's the type of racquet that someone like Federer would use, which means the sales would have been through the roof. As a Junior Federer used to play with the PB10 Mid, at some point, which would have meant that he would have had no problem using the C10 Pro. What a shame... but then on the positive side, we can get these fabulous racquets for great prices, instead of paying overinflated prices because they are used by the Fed, or Rafa, or Djokovic.
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
I completely agree... plus it's the type of racquet that someone like Federer would use, which means the sales would have been through the roof. As a Junior Federer used to play with the PB10 Mid, at some point, which would have meant that he would have had no problem using the C10 Pro. What a shame... but then on the positive side, we can get these fabulous racquets for great prices, instead of paying overinflated prices because they are used by the Fed, or Rafa, or Djokovic.
I've been trying recently other racquets. I demoed the Clash 98, bought a Gravity Pro and a Prince Warrior 107. I have the POG 107 and the Prince Tour 100 18x20 and a pair of the 137sqin Big Bubba's. They were all fun racquets to hit with but all of them needed mods to get them to the weight and sw I'm used to with the C10. At the end of the day, in important matches I still bring out the C10. The C10 is not perfect but it has everything important that I needed for my game. Power, comfort, heft and control. Not as much spin as the others but enough that I needed in a match to make a difference.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

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I've been trying recently other racquets. I demoed the Clash 98, bought a Gravity Pro and a Prince Warrior 107. I have the POG 107 and the Prince Tour 100 18x20 and a pair of the 137sqin Big Bubba's. They were all fun racquets to hit with but all of them needed mods to get them to the weight and sw I'm used to with the C10. At the end of the day, in important matches I still bring out the C10. The C10 is not perfect but it has everything important that I needed for my game. Power, comfort, heft and control. Not as much spin as the others but enough that I needed in a match to make a difference.
I hear what you're saying. Personally, I don't have any problem creating all kinds of spin with the C10 Pro. I'm not sure it's fair to compare a 98 sq. in. racquet with ones with much bigger head sizes, but I understand.

I'm not saying it's a Pure Drive, but for a thin beam players racquet, it's got oodles of power and spin, at least for me.

Having said that, nothing in this world is perfect.
 
I hear what you're saying. Personally, I don't have any problem creating all kinds of spin with the C10 Pro. I'm not sure it's fair to compare a 98 sq. in. racquet with ones with much bigger head sizes, but I understand.

I'm not saying it's a Pure Drive, but for a thin beam players racquet, it's got oodles of power and spin, at least for me.

Having said that, nothing in this world is perfect.
I don't have either any problem creating spin.
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
I am now a member. I have three if the 2012 version that I bought from another source when TW ran out. I actually like the bright yellow. I had moved from prince tour 100 18/20 to Tt100p (weighted up to 12.4). That is a great stick and I still have three. One of my c10s was heavier than the other two so I have matched them at 12.8 and 12 pats headlight as I measure. According to sw test, they are all three in low 330s. I was afraid that they would be too heavy but they swing easy. I went back to the Tt100p the other day in a match and quickly went back. Almost like the weight and the way they swing....and power were a security blanket. I will have to see how it goes when it heats up but I think I am playing my best tennis with them. I play aggressive and move forward a lot. I absolutely love the plush feel. Before this one, the Becker 11 mid was my fav. I suppose I like volkl more than I thought I did.
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
Also, I am thinking that if I’m the end, they are too heavy in the summer heat, the pb mid might be worth a look. I like the grip shape because I modify it. Got the 1/2 and I shave a wee bit off of both sides on the top and bottom bevels and then add one stop of athletic tape on the wider bevels. Perfect.
 
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mctennis

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I am now a member. I have three if the 2012 version that I bought from another source when TW ran out. I actually like the bright yellow. I had moved from prince tour 100 18/20 to Tt100p (weighted up to 12.4). That is a great stick and I still have three. One of my c10s was heavier than the other two so I have matched them at 12.8 and 12 pats headlight as I measure. According to sw test, they are all three in low 330s. I was afraid that they would be too heavy but they swing easy. I went back to the Tt100p the other day in a match and quickly went back. Almost like the weight and the way they swing....and power were a security blanket. I will have to see how it goes when it heats up but I think I am playing my best tennis with them. I play aggressive and move forward a lot. I absolutely love the plush feel. Before this one, the Becker 11 mid was my fav. I suppose I like volkl more than I thought I did.
I have a couple of mine weighted up and they play great. Nice plow through and solid at the baseline and especially at the net. I am glad they are working out well for you. I really do not have any issues with them in the summer months. I play when it is in the 90's and they do not wear me out at all. In fact it is easier to use them because they, IMO, take less effort than a racquet you have to man handle to get to work for you on the court.
 
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markwillplay

Hall of Fame
That is my hope, especially after playing months with them exclusively. I guess I like a plush muted feel and these are all if that to me. I am having to prepare earlier but that has been good for my 1hbh.
 

mctennis

Hall of Fame
That is my hope, especially after playing months with them exclusively. I guess I like a plush muted feel and these are all if that to me. I am having to prepare earlier but that has been good for my 1hbh.
They play buttery smooth once you get your stokes ready.
 

SaaKha

Rookie
Just got one. I’m not entirely sure what year it’s from but it’s the matte version mostly black with yellow up at the hoop. Really does play buttery smooth. So soft. Still trying to dial in on my serve. There’s some dead multi in it so it’ll have to be strung soon. Gonna try Ytex Quadro Twist in it and see if that works. Added a leather grip as well. Any other string recommendations would be welcome.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Just got one. I’m not entirely sure what year it’s from but it’s the matte version mostly black with yellow up at the hoop. Really does play buttery smooth. So soft. Still trying to dial in on my serve. There’s some dead multi in it so it’ll have to be strung soon. Gonna try Ytex Quadro Twist in it and see if that works. Added a leather grip as well. Any other string recommendations would be welcome.
Welcome to the club. :giggle:

I have used:

Volkl Cyclone 17 gauge in black, which has worked well.
Luxilon Savage 1.27mm in black, which was brilliant for me @ 53 lbs in the Mains and whatever you usually do for crosses. This string was almost telepathic.
Tourna Black Zone - was nice but not as good as the other two.
Dunlop Silk 1.32mm - Came to me freshly strung with this string at what seems like 57-58 lbs - I found it too firm for my liking, but still had enough power and comfort to use it. If I tried this string again, which I probably won't, I'd drop the tension by quite a bit.

I might try: Tecnifibre Black Code 4S 1.25mm, Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 1.23mm, RS Lyon 1.25mm, as well as, several hybrids in both poly/poly and poly/ syn gut.
 

mctennis

Hall of Fame
Just got one. I’m not entirely sure what year it’s from but it’s the matte version mostly black with yellow up at the hoop. Really does play buttery smooth. So soft. Still trying to dial in on my serve. There’s some dead multi in it so it’ll have to be strung soon. Gonna try Ytex Quadro Twist in it and see if that works. Added a leather grip as well. Any other string recommendations would be welcome.
Quadro Twist works great in the racquet. At least for me it does.
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
I have played with isospeed cream in other sticks for reference. Is Quadro as soft? I may actually try a poly for fun and thought of cream but this one looks similar in softness. Right now a full bed of velocity at 54 prestretched is great but I love to tinker. Or maybe the ultra cable?
 

max

Legend
I have played with isospeed cream in other sticks for reference. Is Quadro as soft? I may actually try a poly for fun and thought of cream but this one looks similar in softness. Right now a full bed of velocity at 54 prestretched is great but I love to tinker.
give the prince 93p a try.
 

markwillplay

Hall of Fame
Yea, I had no trouble swinging the 93p. I just did not play as well with it for some reason. I rip the ball pretty good off both wings and I find that my c10s come through the air well to be as heavy as they are. They are very headlight. I thought they felt sluggish compared to the other sticks I was using but I actually think my swing speed is good with them. I watch some of these guys on the tour that play with heavier sticks (for them that is) and it seems for most of them, smoothe wins the race. I am having to prepare earlier which has been good for my game all the way around. We will see how I hold up in the heat soon enough.
 

speedysteve

Legend
I'm back in the C10 Pro club!
Had two about 6 years ago.
I've been enjoying the V1 Pro weighted up and I wanted to feel what the C10 Pro was like again.
Arrives on Monday.
 

grhcan99

Semi-Pro
Just started using Gosen OG-Sheep Micro at 57#. So much better than my go-to poly/syngut setup in all respects.

EDIT: And just broke it last night. I think I had between 4.5-6 hrs with it. Any full syngut users here are you getting about similar lifespan?
 
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speedysteve

Legend
Had a comparison hit with the similar balanced and weighted V1 Organix Pro up against the C10 Pro.
I have the C10 leaded up to 8pts headlight. Need a bit of lead at 3 & 9 and 12 o'clock to achieve this.
Same strings; Head Rip Control mains and Prince Premier Touch crosses.
C10 came with free Völkl Cyclone Co-poly pack (put that to one side [emoji846]).
I like both!
I found the C10 Pro a little more communicative esp volleys.
Both have great plough and flatter hitting power.

I still have that new racquet honeymoon period feeling.
Matches tomorrow will be more indicative..

I did not lead up the C10 Pro's I had 6 years ago..

Forgot to mention.
With these strings (Sergetti strung) and lead, comfort is off the scale.. can't praise that enough!

 
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tennis347

Professional
Just started using Gosen OG-Sheep Micro at 57#. So much better than my go-to poly/syngut setup in all respects.

EDIT: And just broke it last night. I think I had between 4.5-6 hrs with it. Any full syngut users here are you getting about similar lifespan?
What gauge were you using? I usually get 8 hours or so on Gosen Micro 16 in my Blade 98 v7 16 x 19 before it breaks. I would imagine that the 17 gauge version would be about 4 hours.
 

speedysteve

Legend
Played 2 competitive doubles matches this afternoon. We won them all. 5&2, 1&1.

C10 Pro is here to stay!
I didn't even put my Band-It anti tendonitis arm band on.
Didn't feel the need for it at all.
Will see how I feel tomorrow [emoji3166][emoji106][emoji3]
Got my serves dialed in, BH and FH never in doubt..

So far, so glad I came back to this frame..
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
I have 4 fish scale left and think I’ve finally cut the cord with Völkl. They’re in great shape. What do y’all think they’d bring were I to sell them?
 

speedysteve

Legend
I've been playing with the C10 Pro. I had it leaded on the hoop to be 8pts headlight.
I also have the V1 Pro (much more head heavy in stock form) at 4pts head light. - leaded the other way to get that. Loads on the handle.
I prefer the balance of the V1 for serve and groundies.
Volleys doesn't matter much..

To get the C10 anywhere near that I needed to lighten the handle and add more weight to the hoop. I'm a 9&3 or 10&2 person. Don't like weight at 12 at all..
I removed all grips and built the pallet up with some very light packing material in strips to maintain the bevels.
Got it to 5pts headlight, which is near enough.
Plays much more solidly and to my liking now..

It is definitely kinder on my wrist and elbow than the V1 Pro! 5 points lower RA don't lie.

I'll try to make this frame a keeper [emoji1787][emoji23]
 

Blue Drop

Rookie
I've been using the C10 Pro for 20+ years now, and my collection goes back to the original fish scale version. I've added a couple of racquets here and there over the years and have found them all to be similar enough, but I just picked up to of the more recent matte black ones and find the balance to be quite different. Has anyone else found this to be the case?

For me, the newer racquets are less head light (and so feel more weighted toward the end of the racquet vs. all of my other ones). This makes the racquet feel heavier overall, even though it's not much different from the others on the scale (although in weighing them all, found one outlier, one of the glossy yellow ones after the fish scale version, that's a full oz heavier than the others).

Is this an official change, or is it something with these two? As it turns out, I bought these on an auction site and the guy listed the grip size as 1/2 but they weren't, so I had to have my local shop do the palette thing, but they were the Volkl palettes so that shouldn't matter.
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
I've been using the C10 Pro for 20+ years now, and my collection goes back to the original fish scale version. I've added a couple of racquets here and there over the years and have found them all to be similar enough, but I just picked up to of the more recent matte black ones and find the balance to be quite different. Has anyone else found this to be the case?

For me, the newer racquets are less head light (and so feel more weighted toward the end of the racquet vs. all of my other ones). This makes the racquet feel heavier overall, even though it's not much different from the others on the scale (although in weighing them all, found one outlier, one of the glossy yellow ones after the fish scale version, that's a full oz heavier than the others).

Is this an official change, or is it something with these two? As it turns out, I bought these on an auction site and the guy listed the grip size as 1/2 but they weren't, so I had to have my local shop do the palette thing, but they were the Volkl palettes so that shouldn't matter.
It's possible that they have changed the amounts of material they place in various parts of the racquet and that way changed the balance but not the overall static weight.

I know the latest version has a slightly higher RA and SW (at least according to the TW stats), so that would match what you were feeling with the matt one you acquired.

All of mine are 2012 (glossy) or prior.
 
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