Vaccines required for RG this year
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MichaelNadal
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Subway Tennis
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The French position seemed to change quite a bit when Macron made his dramatic statement a little over a week ago with a hard line on people who were not vaccinating against the virus.
Lots of positions changing quickly. There is a solution to this if you are a big time tennis player I just don't know what that is.
I kept telling people that Macron was going to make vaccination mandatory at RG itself.
It's not an national entry issue for Nole this time, it's that Roland Garros is actually a public park and every other person there will have been vaccinated to enter.
Again, people laughed at me earlier this week, but I will repeat it. If Djokovic is unwilling to be vaccinated at all, he may have to seriously consider retirement from tennis. He's not going to be able to play more than half of the Masters/Slam schedule this year.
It's not an national entry issue for Nole this time, it's that Roland Garros is actually a public park and every other person there will have been vaccinated to enter.
Again, people laughed at me earlier this week, but I will repeat it. If Djokovic is unwilling to be vaccinated at all, he may have to seriously consider retirement from tennis. He's not going to be able to play more than half of the Masters/Slam schedule this year.
You are not wrong that is the way the winds are blowing. That being said I don't know where we will be in May. Thats why I was blown away by the French Sports minister saying Novak would be good to go. Who is this guy and WTF is he doing.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
Agree. Australia may well be a sign of things to come. I can't imagine another country screwing the pooch with the VISA process again like we did, but the border might be harder to start with in some areas where the VISA is never granted. Who knows.
The Guru
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I mean maybe not if like next year we don't have to worry about COVID but certainly this year he will be unable to play a lot of events.
I mean I don't know all can be swell in May. But if you are a Novak team member someone has to explain to him that all might not be well. And explain to him what that means.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
He did change his position on invasive surgery, which I would argue was almost as big a change as this one, so anything is possible.
Ok. Sure.
TennisFan3
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Lol. The French sports minister has already said Novak will be able to play FO without vaccination. They will make an exception for him. He does not need any sort of vaccination to play F.O.
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Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
True. It's a personal decision but he is also going to have to sell that to 2 other parties and that could be rough going.
That guy has as much power over French border policy as you do.
Macon said he was done and was fine “P I S S I N G “ people off and making it mandatory for Public SPaces. Roland Garos is Public Space. Tennis person was stupid to contradict.
I truly hope so. I am not as confident in a) the ability of vaccines to fight mutation (who saw Omicron coming? There will be new variants, i am nearly certain) and b) governments to lift vaccine mandates until the virus is even less common than the flu.
If you think about it, why would Australia and France lift vaccine requirements next year, even if things are going well? The only incentive to do so is civilian unrest, which clearly they don’t give a single f-ck about, given how popular vaccine mandates have become for many.
I don’t think COVID or vaccine mandates will be over until 2024/2025.
The issue I see is this guy has said look these vaccines are bad I am not taking them. He has put himself into a box. I know he has not directly said that. But he has boxed himself in. Right now he has placed himself in a political **** storm. And if he backtracks on vaccines to play tournaments he is going to make people like me laugh. But that isn't the worst of it. Cause people like me don't matter. What he is going to do is isolate many people who want to think like him. And that aint gonna be pretty. They won't be so forgiving.
Cant argue with that. It makes sense.
The Blond Blur
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Aussie Darcy
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HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH.
Now France is going to start being called a banana republic.
Oh this is so funny, Djokovic chose to die on this hill and for what? Hilarious. Karma.
Now France is going to start being called a banana republic.
Oh this is so funny, Djokovic chose to die on this hill and for what? Hilarious. Karma.
TopspintheTerrible
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Aussie Darcy
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I said it all along, the dude literally said he wanted to make life "hell" for the unvaccinated. As if he wasn't considering not letting them in and watching what Australia did with Djokovic. Oh this is just beautiful, Djokovic fans who still defended their homeboy after all he's done, now going to have to see him miss another slam.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
You do realize Roxanne Mărăcineanu (the lady who tweeted) IS the French sports minister? Clearly the position has changed since then lmao.
TopspintheTerrible
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Zemmour or Le Pen bout to receive a large anonymous donation….
He'll still be an anti vaxer, exemption are for people who are in a physical state to take vaccines, not mental state.
All that matters and I don't discount what the French president said. But all that matters Aussie is watch what people or Govs do. Especially over the last two years. Now I'm not French. But if they are cracking down on the unvaccinated they aint gonna let some dude from Monaco waltz in and play. Period. Done. However maybe omicron is done thats always possible. I will not make any predictions regarding this **** at this time. But someone needs to have a conversation with Novak.I said it all along, the dude literally said he wanted to make life "hell" for the unvaccinated. As if he wasn't considering not letting them in and watching what Australia did with Djokovic. Oh this is just beautiful, Djokovic fans who still defended their homeboy after all he's done, now going to have to see him miss another slam.
French sports minister is not the person issuing visa, it will be under immigration minister.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
You're right, There will be a segment of people who have taken up for Djokovic's cause who will be inconsolable if he were to change at this point. I hope he does it, though, and I believe he can still be within his ethical system while allowing for that change.
TennisFan3
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True,. But the minister confirmed that FRANCE will NOT stop Novak from playing F.O.
Besides the VIRUS WILL be OVER by June F.O time. Omicron will burn and fizzle out. Covid will be done by summer.
For me I will make fun of him. But the problem is Subway there are really bad people with really bad ways of thinking who hold this guy up as a trophy for them. Right now he is feeling a ton of pressure. I don't envy him. But this is the route he chose.
Subway Tennis
G.O.A.T.
agree
The tweet posted by OP is from sports minister, as the situation can change anytime
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The Guru
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They'll give a **** when the economy takes hits and they risk losing their access to the money and power that they love so much because the civilians have reached a sufficient level of unrest to vote them out. Seems to be happening here in the US where people are expecting a red wave this year because the economy has been sputtering and people are sick of COVID regulations. It's possible that doesn't happen but I can't imagine people won't get tired of all the COVID regulations.
‘Murica baby. These Australians and Frenchies allowed their guns to be taken away, can’t expect em to fight against vaccines like the rational among us. What’s next, public healthcare
Mainad
Bionic Poster
I wonder if he's as confident about this as Craig Tiley was??
Tennis_Freak99
Legend
We can just hope that he changes his mind
The Guru
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I guess I can't speak to other cultures but individualism is still prevalent enough in America that there is a line the government can't cross. The line is constantly getting pushed back but it's not gone yet.‘Murica baby. These Australians and Frenchies allowed their guns to be taken away, can’t expect em to fight against vaccines like the rational among us. What’s next, public healthcare
darthrafa
Hall of Fame
no you cannot stop djoker play at fo
coz once a visa was approved, nothing in the world can change
otherwise it is a political conspiracy against djoker
Intensidad
Rookie
Oh don't worry. Previous public statements to the media have the binding force of law (but only in instances where those particular statements benefit the specific desired outcome).
Murica aint relevant in this debate.‘Murica baby. These Australians and Frenchies allowed their guns to be taken away, can’t expect em to fight against vaccines like the rational among us. What’s next, public healthcare
You made that up in your own mind . Cause they can change that in 5 minutes. She means nothing to any particular country or its policy.
intrepidish
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Just a little earlier today a poster (jm1980) insisted that Novak was going to be able to play Roland Garros (posts gone now) because 'France wants it that way' even after I informed him about Macron's policy commitments regarding covid and vaccination.
Fabulous timing
Fabulous timing
You gotta work on that ability to read sarcasm my man
Fwiw Murica is relevant considering we host a Grand Slam in NYC along with 2 Masters. I could see Biden lifting some federal mandates but getting NYC vax mandates lifted seems unlikely, as a resident of the city itself.
Its incredible to me how these people make up narratives in their own minds not just in the present but in the future.
StilltheGOAT
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I see your name, my mouth starts watering in anticipation of the wing-pic
wangs78
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There's a reason why he is the sports minister. In what other countries does such a role even exist??
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