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If the plus version of the '23 Vcore 98 ever eventuates, will you consider it, or are you happier now with standard length?
Been gaming 22' EZ98...great all arounder, helped me power through many matches. Pros: power edge, DHBH, powerful serves, drive on groundies, accurate when you are feeling connected. Cons: lacks touch/feel, muted, lacks some spin.Anyone switched from ezone 98 to Vcore 98 and what were the reasons ?
I liked the Vcore98 much more than the Ezone98. The Vcore98 produces a lot more spin, and imo... more power. I don't understand why so many people say that the Ezone98 is really powerful. I didn't see it that way when I demoed it. The Vcore98 is the better racket in almost all depts. Except for maybe control.I've got a 23' VCore 98 and 95 on the way for testing...hoping to strike gold with the 98 and maybe get surprised with the 95. Gut tells me I'll more likely game the 98 and keep the 95 because it's "special". We shall see !
The ezone 100 I demo'd was such a ridiculous rocket launcher, win points by crazy power or lose points by launching longI liked the Vcore98 much more than the Ezone98. The Vcore98 produces a lot more spin, and imo... more power. I don't understand why so many people say that the Ezone98 is really powerful. I didn't see it that way when I demoed it. The Vcore98 is the better racket in almost all depts. Except for maybe control.
I bought a VC98 to demo alongside the EZ98. VC98 strung up with Element Rough 1.30 @50 and EZ98 with PTP 1.25 @50. The ptp is so lackluster and I'll replace it soon with element rough too. To be honest, both racquets seem easy to pick up and play, although the Vcore just comes through the air so much sweeter. Also, the vcore zooms flat shots in a way the Ezone didn't. Finally, both sticks serve extremely well. So far, the VC98 left a bigger impression on me. But, let's see how the easy one performs with element.Anyone switched from ezone 98 to Vcore 98 and what were the reasons ?
Surprised to hear Vcore hits flat shots better. I play ezone 98+ and it seems to hit flat pretty well.I bought a VC98 to demo alongside the EZ98. VC98 strung up with Element Rough 1.30 @50 and EZ98 with PTP 1.25 @50. The ptp is so lackluster and I'll replace it soon with element rough too. To be honest, both racquets seem easy to pick up and play, although the Vcore just comes through the air so much sweeter. Also, the vcore zooms flat shots in a way the Ezone didn't. Finally, both sticks serve extremely well. So far, the VC98 left a bigger impression on me. But, let's see how the easy one performs with element.
I think EZ98 and VC98 does both well, depends on your swingpath mostly. It doesn't really force you to hit either way I think. Maybe if your tension is too high or too low you might be forced to hit more flat/spin to balance power/control. To my naked eye, the string patterns seem very similar. I'll have a hit with both this afternoon but unfortunately not same string.Surprised to hear Vcore hits flat shots better. I play ezone 98+ and it seems to hit flat pretty well.
I think if Vcore offers a bit more spin and higher launch angle without sacrificing serves and power then that seems quite attractive.
I hear conflicting remarks on spin vs flat for Vcore. Some say it has lots of spin and others say it hits flatter than the ezone. To me these are opposite traits so I wonder what to make of it.
You mean like runescape?No longbody, no love - pretty much a deal breaker for me.
Ok I stopped here. Nothing else to be said. Post of the year!!Those poor saps are too busy getting good at tennis…they’re really missing out.
Anti bump for losing to lower ranked Sinner with itbump for Tommy Paul beating Carlitos with the VC98!
Blade v8 or current generation prince phantom, if you like a lot of flex both play great and super comfortable especially with the right string. Also Volkl V-cell 9 is a huge sleeper frame thats so well rounded great spin and very comfortableAs I really grew to like the 2023...took a little while... But it gave me wrist and arm pain... tried a few string set ups.. but just like the Ezone... pain.. I will try the Precept 97 next..
i'm sorry for your elbow, i know what you mean because i am in the same situation right now, 4 month in!Wrecked my elbow since march. Still recovering although im towards the end of recovery... Backhand confidence is slowly returning. Worst injury I've had and I've played just over 20 years , even picking up a glass of water was painful. Played the previous 2 versions since they both came out but this one just killed me after a couple of weeks. It did play great though, better playability than the previous 2 versions. Didn't go back to the previous version, played the vcp97 while recovering and then fully switched to thr boom pro which is somewhat similar to the vcore but it doesn't hurt me. Goat vcore for sure.
Its not the stiffness, its the vibrations. I believe tw has a vibration frequency db. Try the boom pro, stiffer but its dampened. Also the vcp100.i'm sorry for your elbow, i know what you mean because i am in the same situation right now, 4 month in!
I'm starting looking at new racquets, even more flexible than my DR 98 and the Vcore 98 and 100 cough my eyes as being flexy on paper, but then i hear you that got injured while using it and now i'm confused. i remember i tested the vcore 98 black ones two years ago and felt it was stiff. i'm not sure i would find a racquet that i like now.
That's great, i will try them once i get better!New VCores are not still... actually have a Nice flex..
I never thought about the vibration as a potential issue for the elbow but it makes sense. right the boom pro is on my list already and now the Vcore 100....maybe the 98 too.Its not the stiffness, its the vibrations. I believe tw has a vibration frequency db. Try the boom pro, stiffer but its dampened. Also the vcp100.
One of the things about the boom pro is that you get plenty of spin and power is good enough to compete against the 100sqin babs. Sometimes i get balls that go on in which surprise me and when they do go out im certain it was because i did not hit it properly. That wasn't the case with the previous vcore98 for example, you would get balls sailing long and by a good margin that you thought would go in which was so frustrating at times. The boom pro feels like the vcore pro 97, although control is not as good, its just good enough for today's game. I play on clay and i need a stick that can do it all, attack, defend, serves, returns, volleys and is not a noodle like the vcp97. Its like a stiffer, 1mm thicker vcp97 essentially, it ticks all the boxes for my game. I did get 2 matched with swing weight on the 290s unstrung from tw.I never thought about the vibration as a potential issue for the elbow but it makes sense. right the boom pro is on my list already and now the Vcore 100....maybe the 98 too.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!Its not the stiffness, its the vibrations.
Similar thing low tension people think is more arm friendly well 30 lb rpm blast 16 in pure aero 2019 was sooo vibrational it ripped my arm apart, but it was playing so good I wanted to keep hitting lolDing ding ding! We have a winner!
I feel you, leo. In these special cases, it goes well beyond the TWU-measured frequency number. Rather, I've found it to be certain sub-frequencies and how often they occur.
Case-in-point: I had this exact same thing happen with the Prince Phantom 100X 305 -- a frame that according to most should be one of the more arm friendly things out there. I found, however, that it produced this constant low-grade "buzzing" during and slightly after contact (akin to what you get when hitting a tuning fork) and those vibration were going right through the handle and up into my wrist and arm. Even inside of single hitting sessions, my forearm felt like it was turning into mincemeat. I even bought a second P100X 305 just to rule out the first being a lemon, and short of full-bed natural gut tried every string combo I could think of to calm down the sensation, but nope, both frames and all setups exhibited the issue (in varying amounts). Long story short, it ended up kicking off the only TE I've ever had and I ended up having to take a month off completely, then slowly work back into the game with full-bed multi for another month. Not a fun experience. But a good learning lesson.
So I feel you. You definitely want a frame that doesn't propagate vibrations like that, even if it's a bit muted and comes at the cost of some feel.
any updates on your customisation?Update:
Still loving the frame. Starting to do some mods and strings, although just easing in on mods with a leather grip now + OG, and stringing with Head Lynx Tour 17g at 52#. After I see how this plays (feel like I've heard Lynx Tour plays well in the VC98 '23?), I might start adding some weight at 3 and 9.
Would actually the DR 98 although being flexy have a high vibration frequency?Its not the stiffness, its the vibrations. I believe tw has a vibration frequency db. Try the boom pro, stiffer but its dampened. Also the vcp100.
At what tension are you sensing this buzzing?Yes...to low of a tension will create buzzing and vibrations..
I have experienced this on a few frames..
Even vibration dampeners don't work or sound the same way on very low tension..
I have always strung my racquets DR include around 45-48 full bed poly. I think my TE which came very soddenly after two session with 3-4 old string, the mayami tour hex.Yes...to low of a tension will create buzzing and vibrations..
I have experienced this on a few frames..
Even vibration dampeners don't work or sound the same way on very low tension..
any updates on your customisation?
I played in USTA Atlanta City Finals this past saturday, I used my 98 and my doubles partner just recently switched to the '23 100 from the '21 95. Hit with him 30 min prior to start time, and I got to use his stick for a few minutes and man... the 100 is a sweet stick. I can't lie. It still just feels a little weird on the OHBH compared to my 98, could totally be in my head though. FH was real nice. Felt very stable for it's weight.I've said it many times, the 98 gets outshined by the 100 and the 95. I understand why Yonex makes the 98, but they could do something to make it stand our from its brighter shining siblings. Because, at least to me, it absolutely comes across "meh."
I played in USTA Atlanta City Finals this past saturday, I used my 98 and my doubles partner just recently switched to the '23 100 from the '21 95. Hit with him 30 min prior to start time, and I got to use his stick for a few minutes and man... the 100 is a sweet stick. I can't lie. It still just feels a little weird on the OHBH compared to my 98, could totally be in my head though. FH was real nice. Felt very stable for it's weight.
Yeah, a little lead in the handle on the 100 could help with the OHBH. I actually play my VC100 stock and it feels like a cheat code on most days.I played in USTA Atlanta City Finals this past saturday, I used my 98 and my doubles partner just recently switched to the '23 100 from the '21 95. Hit with him 30 min prior to start time, and I got to use his stick for a few minutes and man... the 100 is a sweet stick. I can't lie. It still just feels a little weird on the OHBH compared to my 98, could totally be in my head though. FH was real nice. Felt very stable for it's weight.
It does not. All of the VC23 models are pretty darn comfortable.How does it feel compared to the 98 in terms of stiffness? Does the 100 feel significantly less comfortable?
How does it feel compared to the 98 in terms of stiffness? Does the 100 feel significantly less comfortable?
I got curious and decided to add some weight. Added a leather grip and 6 grams of lead total and 3&9, balance is about the same as stock. Strung weight is 343g, so significantly higher than stock but lower than the VcorePro 330s I was coming from (~352g strung). Now just an unbelievable stick. I had no issues with this racquet in stock form, but now its just feels like the best of both worlds - hits a heavier ball and still feels plenty maneuverable. Definitley encourage folks to add a little weight if they are curious.Read the posts a lot, but rarely post myself, felt obliged to chime in on this one. I just switched to the 2023 VC98 after a few years with the Vcore Pro 330 (the emerald green one). 23VC98 is a fantastic stick. I demoed it for a week and it was an absolutely seamless transition from my old stick since the balance is the same. Great spin, decent power, excellent for backhand slices. I also think the stability is quite good considering its weight and I dont really feel the need to add anything to it. The only hiccup I had was strings. I typically played a full bed of 1.20 IceCode in the VCP330 at 48 lbs, and I absolutely did not like a full bed of IceCode in the 23VC98 at any tension. I've finally settled on a full bed Lynx Tour 1.25 (Champagne) at 52 lbs and I find it quite good. For what its worth, I'm a 4.5 counterpuncher and aggressive mover with an above average serve. Anyway, cant recommend this stick enough.