Vibration Dampeners -- My experience with this dozen +

corbind

Professional
Midas, you have the right Serpent dampeners in your post #98. I've also updated my original thread so not there's a link taking people straight to it so no guessing.

Those are quite nice. Looking back at this thread I see it's time for me to expend some more effort to make it better with pictures. Gonna try to get a picture of each dampener, upload to tinypic or some site, then reformat my first few posts of the thread. Some pictures next to each damp would really help people identify each. It will take some time, but mod diredesire rules.
 
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ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
Just to throw another one out there, I have been using the Kimony Quake Buster for the last couple of weeks. This dampener leaves just enough feel while silincing the stringbed a lot.

That, along with the Babolat Loony Damps, is one of my favorites.
 

Midas

New User
Now, what I found interesting, when comparing the dampening of some worms and snakes, is that you can increase the dampening slightly, by decreasing the tension of the worm or snake.

Either by decreasing the number of strings covered, or by weaving it loosely around 2 strings instead of 1 string every time. The more loosely it is woven, the more mushy the feeling, which I like.

This way I was able to get the same feeling from two different dampeners (a worm and a snake), and maybe this will also increase durability a bit.
Here are some examples :


Pacific Worm woven very loosely :
(very mushy feeling and sounding)





Tyger Vibratrap woven around every 2 strings :
(almost as mushy as pacific worm now this way)





Compared to Tyger Vibratrap woven around every string :
(as recommend by manufacturer I guess)
(with mid piece making contact to lowest cross string)
(which oddly increased the pinging-sound on my racket)
(hence did not like the Vibratrap installed this way)





My tip : try different ways of installing your worm or snake, and see if you can find the feeling you like the most.


 

Midas

New User
I've also updated my original thread so now there's a link taking people straight to it so no guessing.
Thank you corbind, is a good update.

As the serpent was in the "worm-like category", i got confused a bit, but now all is perfectly clear, and no real need for extra pictures or thumbnails, as your main post is more compact without them I guess.
 

Sander001

Hall of Fame
@corbind, sorry I got confused a bit, and mixed up worms and serpents (but I can't edit my messages here, so can't rectify it).

Now, what I found interesting, when comparing the dampening of some worms and snakes, is that you can increase the dampening slightly, by decreasing the tension of the worm or snake.

Either by decreasing the number of strings covered, or by weaving it losely around 2 strings instead of 1 string every time.

The more lose it is woven, the more mushy the feeling, which I like.

This way I was able to get the same feeling from two different dampeners (a worm and a snake), and maybe this will also increase durability a bit.

If you haven't tried this yourself, give it a try, and see if you can confirm my findings.


I use one of these and by leaving out 2 strings from the folds it did decrease vibration. Makes sense because the tighter they are, the more vibration will be passed along.

Got some Pro's Pro Serpents and will see how they measure up.
 
What is the closest to the old gamma shockbuster & II's. Just broke my last 1 and the new design just doesn't cut it. As far as I'm concerned Ide be better off with one of the little ones that go between the centre mains.
 

The_Racketeer

Professional
My favorite is the Prince EXO (Tour) dampener. They're small, sleek, light, soft, and work well. However, they fly off way too much for my liking. So despite them being my favorite to use, they're too impractical for me to actually keep buying them.

The "P" shaped Prince dampeners are also really good. They're soft and stay put quite well.

I use the Yonex most because, despite its heft, it works really well and never comes off. Convenience is king when it comes to dampeners. I can't stand when they come off mid-point. For some reason it just throws me off too much.
 

ArliHawk

Hall of Fame
My favorite is the Prince EXO (Tour) dampener. They're small, sleek, light, soft, and work well. However, they fly off way too much for my liking. So despite them being my favorite to use, they're too impractical for me to actually keep buying them.

The "P" shaped Prince dampeners are also really good. They're soft and stay put quite well.

I use the Yonex most because, despite its heft, it works really well and never comes off. Convenience is king when it comes to dampeners. I can't stand when they come off mid-point. For some reason it just throws me off too much.
I find the ones with dedicated grips for the string to be great here. The Prince Beast and Kimony dampeners are good options here.
 
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Deleted member 23235

Guest
i didn't read through everything... but curious, why doesn't everyone just use rubber bands?

Ever since I saw agassi use them (10-15) years ago, I've never had to deal with dampeners flying off, or having to install those wormy ones.
 

TNT34

Rookie
why is the ektelon silencer illegal to use in the usta?
Don't know whether they're legal or not, but I do know that vibration dampeners must be placed so that they are entirely outside the pattern of crossed strings, and the Ektelon Silencer appears to have portions of its ends positioned "within" the pattern of crossed strings. I realize that it's common for people to push dampeners up so that they extend above the lowermost cross, but the rule is that no part of the dampener can extend into the pattern of crossed strings. Never seen it called, though.
 

Powderwombat

Semi-Pro
Don't know whether they're legal or not, but I do know that vibration dampeners must be placed so that they are entirely outside the pattern of crossed strings, and the Ektelon Silencer appears to have portions of its ends positioned "within" the pattern of crossed strings. I realize that it's common for people to push dampeners up so that they extend above the lowermost cross, but the rule is that no part of the dampener can extend into the pattern of crossed strings. Never seen it called, though.
That's incorrect - the rule states that the dampeners must be PLACED outside of the crossed pattern, but they are allowed to extend past the first cross string, which is why they all have the top slits for the cross string. Go look at some images of pros using dampeners, they pretty much all touch the cross string but are placed outside the crossed pattern. That rule means you can't place dampeners inside the string grid - extending into it is fine.

Richard Kaufman, USTA Director of Officials, states: “Dampening devices may be located on the outside of the last cross string on the sides, top and/or bottom of the racket face. Multiple devices are permitted. The device may not be placed inside the outside cross strings but the device may touch the outside cross strings.”

They are installed OUTSIDE the crossed pattern of the stringbed, but by their very design, they are allowed to kind of connect to the cross string with the top slit, while still being installed outside the stringbed.
 
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tlm

G.O.A.T.
i didn't read through everything... but curious, why doesn't everyone just use rubber bands?

Ever since I saw agassi use them (10-15) years ago, I've never had to deal with dampeners flying off, or having to install those wormy ones.
Because a lot of people believe all this marketing hype and actually think that dampeners prevent shock and TE. So the bigger the dampener the more shock they prevent lol.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
That's incorrect - the rule states that the dampeners must be PLACED outside of the crossed pattern, but they are allowed to extend past the first cross string, which is why they all have the top slits for the cross string. Go look at some images of pros using dampeners, they pretty much all touch the cross string but are placed outside the crossed pattern. That rule means you can't place dampeners inside the string grid - extending into it is fine.

Richard Kaufman, USTA Director of Officials, states: “Dampening devices may be located on the outside of the last cross string on the sides, top and/or bottom of the racket face. Multiple devices are permitted. The device may not be placed inside the outside cross strings but the device may touch the outside cross strings.”

They are installed OUTSIDE the crossed pattern of the stringbed, but by their very design, they are allowed to kind of connect to the cross string with the top slit, while still being installed outside the stringbed.
This is news.
I had my son remove his Ektelon worm damp because it, much like this image. It is the ONLY damp that will not come off when he plays. It took him all of 1 hitting session to dislodge the rubber end from hook anchor on the TW worm damp. He loses other damps every few classes of the traditional button type.

So if the damp has to be away from the cross pattern but can touch the last cross, this is perfect.


 

yogisri

New User
I can't add any more weight to my racket, so weighing between a #64 rubber band and Touna Sampras dampner.
Any suggestions?
 
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