Victoria Premier tells Djokovic "no special treatment" to his requests & rejects them.

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Bartelby

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Tiley did no such thing. He did say that it was a health official decision, but this decision conformed to what all players were told.

We won't "take your word for it", because it appears not to be true.

Tiley and one other person have now confirmed with their statements that part of the info that the Australian health authorities have given to TA has not been properly communicated to the players.
 

aditya123

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Does Djokovic think he is a special citizen unlike others???? He should immediately issue apologies for his special requests in these corona 2nd phase time!!! Guy learnt nothing from Adria debacle
 

Bartelby

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Djokovic can ask even if his list is mostly absurd, but several tennis players are behaving in a rather entitled manner.

I can understand their frustrations and gripes but broadcasting them on social media undermines public support for the event.

Does Djokovic think he is a special citizen unlike others???? He should immediately issue apologies for his special requests in these corona 2nd phase time!!! Guy learnt nothing from Adria debacle
 
Tiley did no such thing. He did say that it was a health official decision, but this decision conformed to what all players were told.
Tiley confirmed with his statement that the information was not conveyed to the players in a way that the repercussions from eventual positive case on a flight are crystal clear to the players. It is also something that could not have happened by accident: TA decided to give the players the obscured version by not telling them what happens, if there is a positive test on the flight they are on.

We know what that means.

 

Bartelby

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I've read evidence that contradicts this, and you have no evidence.

Tiley confirmed with his statement that the information was not conveyed to the players in a way that the repercussions from eventual positive case on a flight are crystal clear to the players. It is also something that could not have happened by accident: TA decided to give the players the obscured version by not telling them what happens, if there is a positive test on the flight they are on.

We know what that means.
 

zagor

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Pro tennis players disgracing themselves once again during the pandemic.
Eh, they have a right to ask for different conditions and officials have a right to refuse to accommodate them, what is the big problem here that there has to be 10 threads on the topic?
 
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Eh, they have a right to ask for different conditions and officials have a right to refuse to accommodate them, what is the big problem here that there has to be 10 threads on the topic?
It's OK to have a problem with them, too.
 

RelentlessAttack

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Why did you include 2010? So Djokovic had an advantage over Nadal in 2010? LMAO

The Slam h2h is 6-5 for Djokovic starting from 2011 despite half of these matches being played at the FO. Imagine if they played once at the FO and 5 times at the AO instead. 10-1 for Djokovic in that period? Maybe 9-2 if Nadal lucks out another Slam when Djokovic is involved in a 5 hour battle in the SF while Nadal has Youzhny or Berrettini.
Djokovic racked up wins against Nadal when during his down periods of late 09 and 14-16, but then failed to meet him most of the time in his own down periods of 2010 and mid 16-18. They each had roughly 3-3.5 years being significantly out of form in their careers. During Nadal's down period, Djokovic racked up a 12-1 lead. During Djokovic's down period, Nadal went 4-0. The only time Djokovic owned a decent version of Nadal is 2011, which is the year Nole deserves the most credit for by far. But Nadal beat prime versions of Djokovic often in 07-08 and 13.
 
there are enough "glory hunters" that will close both eyes on everything as long as he keeps winning
and even among those who are not glory hunters, people have a relatively short memory, so in a matter of months / few years this will be forgotten
Was sending a bunch of requests a cardinal sin? He requested and they rejected. Case closed. What's with the deep rooted hate?
 
I wou;d like the association to succeed.
The thing with the association is that nobody apart form Novak (I reckon) is ready to take the lead in the off chance that he steps down. Other players with him are already invested in their tennis careers that they would take up a leading position in an organisation.

Novak is the only known face in PTPA who has any sort of political power. The rest are Fedal and Murray and all of three of them are against it
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Fair enough. But is it really that bad? We could care less of what he does off court which does not harm anyone
is the no vaccination rant off court?
does it help or does it rather damage?
the instagram posts selling "snake oil" was that on court or off court?
total lack of any precautionary measure during the organization of Adria Tour?
run away from Adria Tour in Croatia in an attempt to avoid the test?
just to name a few incidents where his off court behavior is not that innocent
 

beard

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He can go ahead and win the titles, but he's lost the respect of so many people after her promoted his anti vaxxer views, creating a tournament that spread the virus, whingeing about our rules while he chills in Adelaide and lives the high life. He is the ultimate hypocrite. He is truly out of touch.
Disagree... He is even not anti-vaxxer.. He took his own children to get vaccines regularly... But, it is just one of the lies promoted on forums and butt hurt media...
 
is the no vaccination rant off court?
does it help or does it rather damage?
the instagram posts selling "snake oil" was that on court or off court?
total lack of any precautionary measure during the organization of Adria Tour?
run away from Adria Tour in Croatia in an attempt to avoid the test?
just to name a few incidents where his off court behavior is not that innocent
Look you want to stick to what happened in the past go ahead. Every sane person condemned what he did was utterly wrong. Now if you want to use that as ammunition and go after Novak and his fanbase at every point he makes any statement from now on, then that's your prerogative.

And yes the current situation of his 'demands' are far less controversial than the things you mentioned in your post. He got what he asked for, which was a firm NO. Plain and simple. I don't see a point in discussing this trivial matter further
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
Look you want to stick to what happened in the past go ahead. Every sane person condemned what he did was utterly wrong. Now if you want to use that as ammunition and go after Novak and his fanbase at every point he makes any statement from now on, then that's your prerogative.

And yes the current situation of his 'demands' are far less controversial than the things you mentioned in your post. He got what he asked for, which was a firm NO. Plain and simple. I don't see a point in discussing this trivial matter further
1. if you don't see the point, then why are you discussing?
2. can you show me again where is the "deep rooted hate"?
3. if you check who wrote what on this topic, you'll see where I said that his requests are actually good, and shouldn't be dismissed based on his past
4. glory hunting is a fact, there is nothing hate related in saying that as long as Novak keeps winning, the glory hunters will keep cheering for him, no matter what he does. It doesn't say that 100% of Novak supporters are glory hunters. So, what you read in my words is your issue, not mine. Just be careful with putting words into people' mouth in real world, sometimes it ends bad
 

Bartelby

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Djokovic said that he is personally opposed to vaccination, so maybe his wife is the brains of the family.

Disagree... He is even not anti-vaxxer.. He took his own children to get vaccines regularly... But, it is just one of the lies promoted on forums and butt hurt media...
 
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The virus doesn't treat you specially.....so neither do we.....because we aren't any friendlier than the virus.....we are going to kill ya! Too bad Novak, too bad....
 

blablavla

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Djokovic said that he is personally opposed to vaccination, so maybe his wife is the brains of the family.
in this case one can question whether Novak knows that his kids are vaccinated?
assuming that beard knows better than Novak that his kids are vaccinated
 

beard

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Djokovic said that he is personally opposed to vaccination, so maybe his wife is the brains of the family.
No, sorry...
This is Google Translate of his explanation on his words everyone are quoting:

"Foreign media took my statement a little out of context, emphasizing that I am completely against any vaccination. My problem with vaccination is if someone forces me to put something in my body. That is unacceptable for me," said Djokovic, reports the New York Times.

Novak further explained his position.
"I'm not against vaccination, because who am I to talk about vaccines when there are professionals, medical workers who save people around the world? I'm sure there are vaccines with small side effects that have helped people stop the spread of infections around the world," he concluded.

So, he is against vaccination if someone forces him too vaccine. Is there any country in the world to force people to vaccine to Covid? So, what is wrong with his view?
He mentions side effects of vaccine, which can be a problem in this case because of short research period, while rushing to make one...
 

BeatlesFan

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Case closed. What's with the deep rooted hate?
What goes around, comes around as they say. What about the deep rooted hate of an infantile fan base who still posts “40-15!” here constantly. About a match that happened 1.5 years ago. That’s the personification of hatred.

Criticizing Djoker over yet another utter failure of his behavior is legit, it’s a current news story, not dredging up Wimbledon 2019 in 90% of the threads here.
 

aditya123

Hall of Fame
Djokovic can ask even if his list is mostly absurd, but several tennis players are behaving in a rather entitled manner.

I can understand their frustrations and gripes but broadcasting them on social media undermines public support for the event.
Exactly .
 

blablavla

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which is actually sad, isn't it?
as apparently some players might have advantage over another players in form of 14 days of training?
but even if all participants are quarantined, 14 days without training, for top athletes? are you guys serious?
 

aldeayeah

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which is actually sad, isn't it?
as apparently some players might have advantage over another players in form of 14 days of training?
but even if all participants are quarantined, 14 days without training, for top athletes? are you guys serious?
They're miserable conditions to hold a major indeed. It's been all very unfortunate, the original arrangement seemed solid but it hasn't survived the encounter with reality.

Perhaps not holding it would have been preferrable, but I won't pass judgment until the end.
 

USO

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After disrespecting the French government at the FO, Djokovic is now disrespecting the Australian government. What else is new? :rolleyes:
 

WYK

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Asking for a friend -
I'm in quarantine and need to get my hair done. Any tips? Prefer not to do it myself.
 
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